Democratic (Party) Direction

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I think it was most likely more about personal ambition/loyalty than policy

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:57 (eight years ago)

how virtuous!

k3vin k., Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:58 (eight years ago)

Crowley’s defeat could put pressure on other members of the caucus to declare their ambitions now, given that spots rarely open up in House Democratic leadership without an assumed successor.

Chief among them is Rep. Linda Sánchez, vice chairwoman of the caucus and No. 5 behind Crowley. The California Democrat had been seen as the most vulnerable member of the leadership team after publicly calling last fall for Pelosi, Hoyer and Assistant Minority Leader Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.) to move on to make way for a new generation.

Sánchez could declare her intentions to run for House Democratic Caucus chair now that Crowley is no longer in the picture. But the opening could also prompt other younger, ambitious members to vie for the post. Lawmakers including Reps. Hakeem Jeffries of New York, Cheri Bustos of Illinois and Ben Ray Luján of New Mexico were being floated by Democratic members and aides Tuesday night.

I like Sanchez, there's yr new blood for party leadership

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 16:32 (eight years ago)

although publicly pissing off the top 3 ahead of her was probably not a wise move

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 16:32 (eight years ago)

Maybe the dems could refrain from publicly calling one another out altogether, I dunno, just a thought.

A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 16:36 (eight years ago)

yup, better to have them inside the tent pissing out etc

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 16:37 (eight years ago)

Kinda incredible how the Dems seems to have nailed the whole 'women vote women' thing over the last few elections but still can't get past the idea that 'youth votes for youth' even though some of their most celebrated victories over the last 60 years are exactly that.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 16:50 (eight years ago)

except for when youths voted for the septuagenarian socialist interloper, you mean?

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 16:51 (eight years ago)

youth doesn't vote in general, for the most part

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 16:51 (eight years ago)

It was between two septuagenarians, to be fair.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 16:52 (eight years ago)

Bernie definitively the most youthful of the septuagenarians.

and yes, point taken.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 16:52 (eight years ago)

...in a primary with a surfeit of youthful candidates on offer

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 16:52 (eight years ago)

Xp

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 16:52 (eight years ago)

So yeah, my question to the pol. experts: how many Ocasio-Cortez can happen? is it something that is strickly New York? is it realistic to think a certain blueprint has been laid down for the rest of nation?

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 16:54 (eight years ago)

Have to look at Danica Roem too. She knocked on every door and ran on local issues.

Yerac, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 16:58 (eight years ago)

I'm sure it could happen in other reliably blue Districts. not in SF where I am though, lol

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 16:58 (eight years ago)

Jeff Merkley banging on the door of the detention center

Elizabeth Warren inspecting one and reporting the horrors

Multiple calls for Nielsen’s resignation

Kamala Harris calling to scrap ICE and start again

Maxine Waters encouraging direct action

Nancy Pelosi tsking Waters

— Alex [Null Holiday Input] (@agraybee) June 25, 2018


Guess which one is being treated as the official and only Democratic response the family separation crisis

— Alex [Null Holiday Input] (@agraybee) June 25, 2018

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:14 (eight years ago)

Kinda incredible how the Dems seems to have nailed the whole 'women vote women' thing over the last few elections but still can't get past the idea that 'youth votes for youth' even though some of their most celebrated victories over the last 60 years are exactly that.

this makes me a bit scared of what will happen if one of the young alt-right people decides to actually run for office (well, it would if that weren't a vacuous premise, or if tea party candidates hadn't gotten their asses kicked in primaries in the past)

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:29 (eight years ago)

uh, p sure that has already happened

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:31 (eight years ago)

successfully?

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:32 (eight years ago)

probably? I'd have to look at state-level offices to find out. but it wouldn't surprise me at all. I mean, the GOP is running a literal Nazi for the House in Illinois, and white supremacist Corey Stewart for Senate in Virginia, so you have to figure it's even worse down the ballot.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:35 (eight years ago)

would have to look at 2016 election results, cuz since then all that's happened has been special elections, and Dems have been winning most of those

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:37 (eight years ago)

the GOP is running a literal Nazi for the House in Illinois

the GOP didn't exactly hand select that guy. it was assumed that the democrat in the district would run unopposed, and then a nazi signed up and local republicans voted for him because they're dumb and some of them are nazis

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:37 (eight years ago)

all that being said, I doubt "youth" would be the deciding factor in anyone voting for Nazis.

xp

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:38 (eight years ago)

I'm aware of the unusual circumstances in that Illinois race, but my point still stands that that guy ran and Republicans voted for him and will most likely vote for him in the general (he will lose, but still)

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:38 (eight years ago)

also how do you tell the dumb ones from the Nazis, seems tricky

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:39 (eight years ago)

winning strategies

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/etienne_saint/Screen%20Shot%202018-06-27%20at%2010.35.42%20AM_zpsrjpyrgin.png

omar little, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:40 (eight years ago)

GRRRRRR

sleeve, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:40 (eight years ago)

dude needs to be put out to pasture

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:41 (eight years ago)

it's wild that anyone lets him talk in public

Simon H., Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:42 (eight years ago)

yeah, you'd think someone would have corralled him off from public exposure by now

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:43 (eight years ago)

don't really think that's how it works with former presidents lol

k3vin k., Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:50 (eight years ago)

can't we just lock him in a vault with some porn and some hamburgers

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:52 (eight years ago)

seriously though let's see how this plays out , maybe if we show them respect they'll respect us right back

omar little, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:54 (eight years ago)

can't we just lock him in a vault with some porn and some hamburgers

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, June 27, 2018 1:52 PM

yet he would find a way to talk the hamburgers to death such that when Geraldo opens the vault the hamburgers are hanging from nooses

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:57 (eight years ago)

So yeah, my question to the pol. experts: how many Ocasio-Cortez can happen? is it something that is strickly New York? is it realistic to think a certain blueprint has been laid down for the rest of nation?

― Van Horn Street, 27. juni 2018 18:54 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

No expert, but Harry Enten pointed to Steve Cohen of Tennessee as vulnerable. The only white guy in a district as non-white as NY14. So eyes on Memphis and hoping the DSA is on it.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:03 (eight years ago)

recognizing Harry Enten as "no expert" is one point on which i'll agree with you wholeheartedly.

This is a total Jeff Porcaro. (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:05 (eight years ago)

Democratic (Party) should start talking now about court-packing tbrr

devops mom (silby), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:12 (eight years ago)

lol

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 18:12 (eight years ago)

lol p sure Pelosi has access to more polling data/inside baseball info about Dem prospects than anybody here

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, June 27, 2018 3:08 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if you think for a second that statement had more to do with real polling than with trying to own the terms of discussion you're a fucking idiot

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:03 (eight years ago)

Democratic (Party) should start talking now about court-packing tbrr

― devops mom (silby), Wednesday, June 27, 2018 1:12 PM (fifty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:12 (eight years ago)

dear keith ellison, something has happened in the past 24 hours that you may want to mention in your latest fundraising blast

"Our country has gone through some ugly days, Katherine -- and yesterday is going to go down as one of them.

The Supreme Court in the 1850s said that it was OK to own a black person, and that was the Dred Scott decision. That decision hit the dustbin of history -- and the decision to uphold Trump's Muslim ban will too.

The Republican Party thinks that because they stole a Supreme Court seat and gave themselves a 5-4 majority, they can jam any racist, xenophobic, ugly policy down the throats of the American people. But we don't have to take it, Katherine -- we can start fighting back right now."

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:53 (eight years ago)

on preparing for the worst w/r/t repro rights

okay friends, let’s sit down and have a talk, because it is definitely time.

— Robin Marty (@robinmarty) June 27, 2018

Simon H., Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:58 (eight years ago)

fuck pelosi and her stupid chunky necklace

i want to get cancer (map), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:01 (eight years ago)

I don't think it hurts to really drive home the obvious: that conservatives' pro-life agenda is pointedly anti-woman, and that the GOP is perfectly okay with letting women die as a result of their policies.

A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:04 (eight years ago)

I overall completely agree with her approach, but why not also say "VOTE PRO-CHOICE STATE LEGISLATORS AND GOVERNORS INTO OFFICE" -- that's the #1 guarantee of legal abortion in your state if we reach a post-Roe world.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:13 (eight years ago)

here is the full text of Pelosi's response to a question re: socialism at the press conference. Clearly she is a monster lol

When asked by CBS News' Nancy Cordes if democratic socialism is "ascendant" in the Democratic Party, Pelosi responded with a firm "no."

"No. They're not," Pelosi said. "It's ascendant in that district perhaps! But I don't accept any characterization of our party presented by the Republicans. So let me reject that right now."

The once and perhaps future Speaker of the House went on to describe her party as a "big tent" that was home to various ideological currents. She also said each district is different, and that Ocasio-Cortez's victory is "just a sign of the vitality of our party."

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:33 (eight years ago)

The Democratic Party needs to decide if it’s the party of @MikeBloomberg or the party of @Ocasio2018. For those of us that don’t want to see a second trump term, let’s hope they decide to be the party of Bloomberg. https://t.co/aSaD9xQ7z6

— Daniella Greenbaum (@DGreenbaum) June 27, 2018

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 21:22 (eight years ago)

o_O

devops mom (silby), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 21:23 (eight years ago)

This is GLORIOUS:

"The socialist movement in America is real, it's dangerous... The election of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez who openly despises the very system that makes America the greatest country in the world proves we must take every election seriously." —@stinchfield1776 #WednesdayWisdom pic.twitter.com/C25QwWsgRv

— NRATV (@NRATV) June 27, 2018

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 21:23 (eight years ago)


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