US Politics, June 2018: This is a total goat rodeo.

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xp to myself Those qualities are the commonalities I've noticed among non-assholes. However, if you go back a couplefew generations, pretty sure most had ancestors who lived in urban areas. Like my friends (and obv my family) had grandparents who were raised in urban areas in apartments, moved out to the burbs after WW2 to start their family, and instilled liberal mindsets in their kids, and on down the generations.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 23:10 (seven years ago)

I gotta think the main factors are education/intelligence, parents as role models/morality teachers, direct experiences with wide variety of people, a strong and frequently-exercised empathy muscle, etc.

This is so right. Been thinking a lot about how parents, especially fathers, can shape this.

... (Eazy), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 23:14 (seven years ago)

People, a lot of white people, are fucking terrified of everything/willing

Very small sample size and could be some data cherry-picking but I've noticed that people who have the typical "fear and loathing" conservative outlook are likewise scared to try new foods, go to unfamiliar places, deviate from routines, deviate from the crowd, and in an almost constant state of worry far out of proportion to any real threat.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 23:16 (seven years ago)

Guess I'm echoing what those studies of conservative vs liberal brains have found huh. ie conservatives have larger amygdalas etc.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 23:19 (seven years ago)

I guess my Boomer logic is that the fewer people voting who have direct memory of living a privileged, consequence-free lifestyle ignorant of its cost will be fewer, and thus the sense of entitlement (excuse me, "American freedom") will diminish a little.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 23:28 (seven years ago)

yeah it's hard to argue with "fewer people ... will be fewer"

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 23:29 (seven years ago)

At this point I think the only thing that will dent Trump is if the economy seriously tanks - which of course it may well, what with trade wars and tax cuts that will mean there's no money in the coffers to deal with a downturn. But it's pretty depressing to think the only way out of this might be an economic crisis

Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 23:47 (seven years ago)

Usually I'd say, "Fuck this guy," but Steve Schmidt is being unusually eloquent on Chris Hayes' show, and apparently he's going to help Democrats in the fall.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 00:16 (seven years ago)

after watching woody harrelson as schmidt Game Change it's hard not to think of him as this charming, affable guy

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 00:21 (seven years ago)

^in^ Game Change

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 00:21 (seven years ago)

i'll say fuck that guy for you

deathbed conversions annoyed me even in Catholic school

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 00:22 (seven years ago)

If he contributes to the Democratic collections box, then he can expire in December 2018.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 00:32 (seven years ago)

so weird to be wearing it in a place where she didn't see a single MAGA hat, let alone several, on any given day.

you know now that i think about it i'm not sure i've even seen a maga hat in person since even the election. nice!!

j., Wednesday, 27 June 2018 00:42 (seven years ago)

you don't have to agree with it, just don't make public statements against it.

sleeve, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 00:48 (seven years ago)

well, remember how John McCain and John Boehner's condemnation of Joe Wilson in 2009 for shouting YOU LIE decisively swung the 2010 midterms in the Democrats' direction.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 00:55 (seven years ago)

"I will love everyone, I will love the police as they kick the shit out of me on the street"

sleeve, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 00:58 (seven years ago)

on in

sleeve, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 00:58 (seven years ago)

don't even get me started on this pro-civility garbage

sleeve, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 00:59 (seven years ago)

Lol right? Get mad about stuff that matters plz

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 00:59 (seven years ago)

I can't even parse that anymore

sleeve, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 01:00 (seven years ago)

Er xp

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 01:00 (seven years ago)

ah ok thx

sleeve, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 01:01 (seven years ago)

xxxxp but

Very small sample size and could be some data cherry-picking but I've noticed that people who have the typical "fear and loathing" conservative outlook are likewise scared to try new foods, go to unfamiliar places, deviate from routines, deviate from the crowd, and in an almost constant state of worry far out of proportion to any real threat.

Guess I'm echoing what those studies of conservative vs liberal brains have found huh. ie conservatives have larger amygdalas etc.

― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, June 26, 2018 7:19 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

close but not quite; this is a fairly common result found on the Big Five/OCEAN model of personality, that openness to experience is positively associated with liberalism. (conscientiousness -- self-discipline, duty, order, etc. -- is positively associated with conservatism)

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 01:19 (seven years ago)

(incidentally, this is somewhat related to what Cambridge Analytica was doing with personality profiling

http://theconversation.com/how-cambridge-analyticas-facebook-targeting-model-really-worked-according-to-the-person-who-built-it-94078 )

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 01:25 (seven years ago)

Uh guys I think Ocasio-Cortez is gonna win the primary

She was outspent by the incumbent 10:1 so this is kind of a big deal

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 01:32 (seven years ago)

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/26/new-york-primary-election-results-2018-updates-677637

Yup

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 01:36 (seven years ago)

really????!!!! oh I hope so

Dan S, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 01:37 (seven years ago)

Good for her

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 01:37 (seven years ago)

we're partying in the Dem strategy thread

Simon H., Wednesday, 27 June 2018 01:38 (seven years ago)

Good morning!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 01:49 (seven years ago)

fuckin lol

Wow! Big Trump Hater Congressman Joe Crowley, who many expected was going to take Nancy Pelosi’s place, just LOST his primary election. In other words, he’s out! That is a big one that nobody saw happening. Perhaps he should have been nicer, and more respectful, to his President!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 27, 2018

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 02:21 (seven years ago)

Uh, Ocasio-Cortez ain't exactly Roy Moore, dude. Don't know what your celebrating here.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 02:25 (seven years ago)

Big Trump Hater loses to someone who doesn't like Trump at all. Win-win!

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 02:26 (seven years ago)

lol

Dan S, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 02:28 (seven years ago)

i bet he's celebrating it because he's v v stupid

gbx, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 02:34 (seven years ago)

https://www.facebook.com/kbrezler/videos/10156361035083326/

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 02:36 (seven years ago)

I heard a pretty good take on Twitter (can't remember who) but it said that every Dem in office when Trump got elected is going to have to prove themselves. That seems pretty otm right now - on Monday we had both minority leaders repudiate Maxine Waters for suggesting that people be rude to Trump officials and today we saw huge blows to both civil and voting rights entirely attributable to Mitch McConnell stealing a Supreme Court Seat. like RIGHT THERE is a pretty big reminder of what you get when you try to be civil with these fuckers. the utter uselessness of establishment Dems is getting pretty exposed right now, especially given that the Trump admin literally kidnapped thousands of kids and is currently holding them for ransom and all this stupid country can talk about is a fascist mouthpiece getting booted out of a restaurant. I hope Crowley losing to a 28-year old sends a big message to all these people.

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 03:18 (seven years ago)

and, by the way, I'm not suggesting Ocasio-Cortez didn't 100% deserve this, but Dems themselves said this wasn't gonna be competitive as recently as one month ago

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 03:19 (seven years ago)

Trump 100% thinks a Republican defeated Joe Crowley.

— Chris Jackson (@ChrisCJackson) June 27, 2018

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 03:34 (seven years ago)

Meanwhile he's back to pimping his own golf courses

The legendary Gary Player at Turnberry in Scotland! https://t.co/3oGoqWhhtA

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 27, 2018

Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 03:39 (seven years ago)

Such a great player he's playing out of a bunker, nice example pic.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 03:48 (seven years ago)

Not the combo of "bunker" and "Trump" I was anticipating.

Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 04:14 (seven years ago)

lmao how are these guys in total control and yet still know absolutely nothing

STUNNING!

That so-called blue wave? More like a red tsunami... https://t.co/cIeI1II52U

— Kayleigh McEnany (@kayleighmcenany) June 27, 2018

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 04:23 (seven years ago)

Why are you sharing that

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 04:24 (seven years ago)

Like a white woman named Kayleigh RT’d Trump saying something profoundly dumb and put her own dumb on top of it - OK never mind I see how this is funny now

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 04:26 (seven years ago)

cuz chuds (and the President himself) thinking that a Democrat got primaried by a Republican is like, really funny to me

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 04:26 (seven years ago)

and she's not just any white woman, she was one of the people that CNN gave 4 hours of daily airtime in order to serve as a Trump mouthpiece

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 04:28 (seven years ago)

and continues to give airtime to...

Dan S, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 04:36 (seven years ago)

ACLU on FB:

BREAKING: We just won a big victory in our fight to reunite families!

The judge ruled that the Trump administration must reunite separated families within 30 days, and children under 5 must be reunited with their parents within 14 days.

Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 04:54 (seven years ago)


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