there aren't nearly enough stories that try to explain what migrants are fleeing from, but this is a good one:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/22/us/immigration-border-children.html
Though it’s impossible to know yet whether the Trump administration’s “zero tolerance” crackdown on illegal border crossers will have a significant deterrent effect, one thing was clear this week at the Arizona-Mexico border: Many families — especially those from countries in Central America plagued by gang violence and ruined economies — are making the calculation that even separation or detention in the United States is better than the situation at home.“Why would you undertake such a dangerous journey?” said Magdalena Escobedo, 32, who works at the migrant shelter here in Tucson, called Casa Alitas. “When you’ve got a gun to your head, people threatening to rape your daughter, extort your business, force your son to work for the cartels. What would you do?”
“Why would you undertake such a dangerous journey?” said Magdalena Escobedo, 32, who works at the migrant shelter here in Tucson, called Casa Alitas. “When you’ve got a gun to your head, people threatening to rape your daughter, extort your business, force your son to work for the cartels. What would you do?”
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 23 June 2018 03:36 (eight years ago)
Tom Arnold link seems to have disappeared between me seeing it on my phone and going to look at it on my desktop.
He does sound a bit weird on the Lawrence O'Donnel show anyway.
― Stevolende, Saturday, 23 June 2018 08:10 (eight years ago)
Sorry, just loaded now. My feed must be not loading fully or something.
― Stevolende, Saturday, 23 June 2018 08:11 (eight years ago)
https://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/immigrant-mom-loses-effort-regain-son-us-parents/story?id=16803067Not a great precedent. & can see how this is likely to become one from what i'm hearing about a lack of planned out process. & maybe this is what the White house wants anyway.
― Stevolende, Saturday, 23 June 2018 09:22 (eight years ago)
oh come the fuck on, dude. they can declare martial law at any point.
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 23 June 2018 12:17 (eight years ago)
Yeah they definitely can't declare martial law in any constitutional way. Plus with so much decentralized power in the U.S., I'm not even sure how it work. You'd have whole cities and states where the local law enforcement authorities would not respect the authority of the feds.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 23 June 2018 13:16 (eight years ago)
again, I hope you're both right.
― sleeve, Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:32 (eight years ago)
Please don't say, "But y'all said that about Trump winning in 2016!"
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:37 (eight years ago)
thankfully that did not cross my mind
― sleeve, Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:40 (eight years ago)
regarding the "why people seek asylum" question:
So we're gonna pretend these refugees aren't a result of our actions in Central America?
yeah it's Daily Kos link but it links through to more detailed reports
― sleeve, Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:43 (eight years ago)
the woman who beat mark sanford was in a serious car crash last night
― maura, Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:47 (eight years ago)
man i really hope Sarah Huckabee Sanders ends up in a serious car crash
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Saturday, 23 June 2018 18:23 (eight years ago)
using the official @PressSec twitter account to go after a business that refused her service last night.
how long until we've got PizzaGate 2?
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Saturday, 23 June 2018 18:25 (eight years ago)
The USA has been fucking around with Central America since forever. It's probably the single most disgraceful part of our long history of foreign interventions.
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 23 June 2018 18:27 (eight years ago)
Wouldn't you rather she realised she was wrong, and dedicated her life to the service of others? Car chrash may be more likely, but while we're wishing for things that seems better.
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Saturday, 23 June 2018 18:27 (eight years ago)
Which is more likely. That one is the one I want
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 23 June 2018 18:33 (eight years ago)
I'm not sure that makes sense, but okay.
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Saturday, 23 June 2018 18:53 (eight years ago)
Seems easy enuf to parse
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 23 June 2018 18:57 (eight years ago)
For every person involved in this administration who eventually has a half-hearted 'come to Jesus' moment years after the damage they participated in has been done (a la Glenn Beck), there will be 150 who go to their graves bitterly doubling down on their own shitbaggery.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Saturday, 23 June 2018 19:15 (eight years ago)
I REALLY DON’T CARE. DO U? https://t.co/L2o6H2KXC2— John Dingell (@JohnDingell) June 23, 2018
― grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 23 June 2018 19:36 (eight years ago)
dingell is the red foreman of the democartic party that we need
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Saturday, 23 June 2018 19:45 (eight years ago)
perfect
― sleeve, Saturday, 23 June 2018 19:49 (eight years ago)
of course sarah massaged the truth to make herself feel better.
Several Red Hen employees were gay, [the owner] said. They knew Sanders had defended Trump’s desire to bar transgender people from the military. This month, they had all watched her evade questions and defend a Trump policy that caused migrant children to be separated from their parents.
“Tell me what you want me to do. I can ask her to leave,” Wilkinson told her staff, she said. “They said yes.”
It was important to Wilkinson, she said, that Sanders had already been served — that her staff had not simply refused her on sight. And it was important to her that Sanders was a public official, not just a customer with whom she disagreed, many of whom were included in her regular clientele.
All the same, she was tense as she walked up to the press secretary’s chair.
“I said, ‘I’m the owner,’ ” she recalled, ” ‘I’d like you to come out to the patio with me for a word.’ ”
They stepped outside, into another small enclosure, but at least out of the crowded restaurant.
“I was babbling a little, but I got my point across in a polite and direct fashion,” Wilkinson said. “I explained that the restaurant has certain standards that I feel it has to uphold, such as honesty, and compassion, and cooperation.
“I said, ‘I’d like to ask you to leave.’ ”
Wilkinson didn’t know how Sanders would react. She said she didn’t know whether Trump’s chief spokeswoman had been called out in a restaurant before, as the president’s homeland security secretary had been days earlier.
Sanders’s response was immediate, Wilkinson said: ” ‘ That’s fine. I’ll go.’ ”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2018/06/23/why-a-small-town-restaurant-owner-asked-sarah-huckabee-sanders-to-leave-and-would-do-it-again/?utm_term=.451cbf1fa4b1
― maura, Saturday, 23 June 2018 20:11 (eight years ago)
Sarah, I know you don’t care even a tiny little bit about the ethics rules, but using your official account for this is a clear violation of 5 CFR 2635.702(a). It’s the same as if an ATF agent pulled out his badge when a restaurant tried to throw him/her out. https://t.co/Fj6OfBAdew— Walter Shaub (@waltshaub) June 23, 2018
― maura, Saturday, 23 June 2018 20:20 (eight years ago)
and the punishment for violating 5 CFR 2635.702(a) is...
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 23 June 2018 20:36 (eight years ago)
an invisible feather ploofing down on the wrist in the middle of a lovely dream, years later
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 23 June 2018 20:37 (eight years ago)
her punishment is that she gave the restaurant that 86’d her a bunch of free publicity, excellent work by a true communications professional
― sciatica, Saturday, 23 June 2018 20:42 (eight years ago)
free publicity and probably now a target of threats by insane dumbasses from around the country. a friend of mine works at a really nice restaurant in DC called The Red Hen. it's not the one that sanders visited, and it's unaffiliated. even this unaffiliated restaurant is getting bombarded with 1-star reviews on yelp, and is anticipating threats. i'm sure it's much much worse for the real thing
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 23 June 2018 20:50 (eight years ago)
their facebook page is a toilet now.
probably not the worst idea to hire full-time security.
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Saturday, 23 June 2018 20:53 (eight years ago)
Went on the Red Hen's Yelp page to have a good lol at the Magaists' reviews and here is what the admins are doing:
Active Cleanup AlertThis business recently made waves in the news, which often means that people come to this page to post their views on the news.While we don’t take a stand one way or the other when it comes to these news events, we do work to remove both positive and negative posts that appear to be motivated more by the news coverage itself than the reviewer’s personal consumer experience with the business.As a result, your posts to this page may be removed as part of our cleanup process beginning Saturday, June 23, 2018, but you should feel free to post your thoughts about the recent media coverage for this business on Yelp Talk at any time.
While we don’t take a stand one way or the other when it comes to these news events, we do work to remove both positive and negative posts that appear to be motivated more by the news coverage itself than the reviewer’s personal consumer experience with the business.
As a result, your posts to this page may be removed as part of our cleanup process beginning Saturday, June 23, 2018, but you should feel free to post your thoughts about the recent media coverage for this business on Yelp Talk at any time.
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 23 June 2018 21:17 (eight years ago)
The Yelp reviews are a sewer. One guy photoshopped a rat b/w hamburger bread.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 June 2018 21:17 (eight years ago)
guys
― sciatica, Saturday, 23 June 2018 21:24 (eight years ago)
"Sarah, we the people of the USA are the owners of the White House, and we'd like to ask you to leave."
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 23 June 2018 21:36 (eight years ago)
https://cdn.worldvectorlogo.com/logos/cracker-barrel-1.svg
― earlnash, Saturday, 23 June 2018 22:50 (eight years ago)
free publicity and probably now a target of threats by insane dumbasses from around the country. a friend of mine works at a really nice restaurant in DC called The Red Hen. it's not the one that sanders visited, and it's unaffiliated. even this unaffiliated restaurant is getting bombarded with 1-star reviews on yelp, and is anticipating threats.
So emblematic of the red hatter's that when one of their queens spots them the exact location of the restaurant to bombard, they still get it wrong. I imagine there are Red Hen restaurants and businesses getting a similar treatment in Washington STATE now too.
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 23 June 2018 23:10 (eight years ago)
they're as mad as a red hen!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 June 2018 23:13 (eight years ago)
I don't own a restaurant, but if I did, and if a person I didn't like tried to patronize my restaurant, and I would rather they not but had already done so, I would think that instead of asking them for a private word out on the patio with the intention of asking them to leave, I'd prefer to politely confront them in front of everyone with the reasons I didn't like them, and then let them know their meal was on the house before letting them go ahead and leave whenever they felt sufficiently humiliated enough to do so. But straight up asking someone to leave, whether you take them aside privately beforehand or not, is frankly unamerican.
― del griffith, Saturday, 23 June 2018 23:22 (eight years ago)
Hey, maybe the next restaurant visited by an administration official will preempt any possible retaliatory action by never letting said official leave their establishment again. Something about the thought of Trump's cabinet chained up in various bistro basements across DC makes feel all warm and fuzzy.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Saturday, 23 June 2018 23:24 (eight years ago)
xpost
and you could say: see there's a such a thing as free lunch in america!
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 23 June 2018 23:25 (eight years ago)
Eat the rich
― Stevolende, Saturday, 23 June 2018 23:28 (eight years ago)
― del griffith
I admit to feeling slightly uncomfortable too but according to the manager she let them finish their meal.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 June 2018 23:30 (eight years ago)
Yeah it's easy to imagine how it can escalate in the worst possible way for people of color and the lgbtq community.
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 23 June 2018 23:33 (eight years ago)
I agree and I think the way the Hamilton cast addressed Mike Pence, for example, is a better thing to do...however that actor revealed recently that he was bombarded with death threats for ages after that. so no fucking pleasing everyone. MAGAs don't give a fuck if you're polite or not
― akm, Saturday, 23 June 2018 23:38 (eight years ago)
The Washington Post reports:
The White House’s hastily crafted executive order to end child separations spurred confusion and fights within the federal government, and second-guessing from the president who had demanded the order in the first place.
In private conversations with aides, Trump said he wanted to sign a full immigration bill as part of an executive order, which one administration official described as “a pretty insane idea.” The president was told by government lawyers that he could not change immigration law by fiat, said a person familiar with the discussions.
Trump then demanded that an executive order be written, and said he wanted it on his desk for signing by that afternoon, according to people involved in the discussions. Given hours to produce a complex legal document, government lawyers crafted one that met the moment’s political demands but only added to confusion within the agencies tasked with implementing it.
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 24 June 2018 07:38 (eight years ago)
Goat Rodeo
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 24 June 2018 07:43 (eight years ago)
Goat Rodeos, July 2018
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Sunday, 24 June 2018 13:48 (eight years ago)
The Goatest Rodeo
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 24 June 2018 13:58 (eight years ago)
Donald Trump's Goatse Rodeo
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Sunday, 24 June 2018 14:28 (eight years ago)
mountin’ goats
― topless from 11am (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 24 June 2018 14:31 (eight years ago)
Goat Mournting!
― Scape: Goat-fired like a dog! (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 24 June 2018 15:40 (eight years ago)