Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me - Classic or Dud [spoilers]

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I think that's key -- the series engaged in a lot of tv conventions, which appealed to me. The movie went ahead with movie conventions, leading to the stark division b/w the two.

― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 05:30 (twenty-one years ago)

huh?

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 05:32 (twenty-one years ago)

(p.s. just wanted to remind everyone that this film HAS A NIGHTCLUB SCENE WITH SUBTITLES FOR ENGLISH DIALOGUE.)

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 05:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Love that scene. Love that music.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 05:34 (twenty-one years ago)

lee, i'm wondering what you mean by "movie conventions" cos whatever this film is (and i'm not really sure), it's not particularly conventional. or so it seems to me.

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 05:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Movie conventions = sexing and swearing.

― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 05:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Leee, those things were around before movies!

― adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 05:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Here is where the deleted scenes are (or, are not):

PRESS RELEASE

TWIN PEAKS, FIRE WALK WITH ME
ON DVD DECEMBER 8TH MK2 EDITIONS

Since May 2002, fans from all over the world have been asking us to edit the original cut scenes from “Twin Peaks – Fire Walk With Me.”

As early as 2002, New Line, the American editor of the DVD, had tried to include these cut excerpts into its edition, but had been forced to give up for financial reasons.

We have tried several times to contact David Lynch and his associates to find a technical and financial solution to the problem.

We had thus stopped exporting the film worldwide in 2002 and 2003, and had delayed the French editing of the DVD.

Despite a few sporadic contacts, mail without answers and missing appointment on David Lynch’s side has made us take the decision not to deprive the French audience anymore from this major film that is also an important work in David Lynch’s filmography.

The DVD, to be released on December 8th 2004 in France, will thus be edited with as much care as any of the other MK2 products, but these cut scenes will unfortunately be missing.

We still hope – as all David Lynch fans worldwide do – to have these cut scenes included in a future version of the DVD, but this responsibility and willingness has to be shared by David Lynch himself.

MK2 Editions

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 06:08 (twenty-one years ago)

(dated five days ago, btw)

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 06:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Not on TV though!

― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 06:48 (twenty-one years ago)

And goddammit, when oh when is the rest of the series gonna be out on DVD?

(FWMM = classic btw. Scary, funny and very moving all at the same time; I blub like a baby at the end, every time.)

― Mog, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 10:52 (twenty-one years ago)

wasn't there something like 2 hours worth of david bowie and david edited it to the 30 secs we saw?

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 11:31 (twenty-one years ago)

backward bend threads my sometimes

― Queen G is not what he screams, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

where the hell is the season two DVD??

― kephm (kephm), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

it's scheduled for Europe/Japan in Q2 of 2005. Adam has a dodgy bootleg of it that I don't trust.

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

i wrote a paper on fwwm in college, comparing it with iphigenia at aulis and the bluest eye. i'd like to see the film again, but i don't think i want to go back and read my essay.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Trust my bootleg. I wrote a paper on Dogme 95 that scarred me for life.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)

what is "iphigenia at aulis" lauren?

― amateur!!st, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, it is not a bootleg, it is an official Spain-only release boxset of both series' and the pilot. No extras and the transfer varies wildly.

yes lauren, what is "iphigenia at aulis"?

― adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:03 (twenty-one years ago)

google tells me it's a play by euripides. lauren's all smart and shit.

― amateur!!st, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Very good play at that. Would like to see a good production of it one of these days.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I think "Iphigenia At Aulis" is the one where Agammemnon sacrifices his daughter Iphigenia to Poseidon to get favorable winds in order to set sail for Troy.

― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Lauren IS smart!

― adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

agamemnon = leland
iphigenia = laura
poseidon = BOB

???

― amateur!!st, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost

i never doubted it adam!

― amateur!!st, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

No, i know. I was acting as a chorus!

― adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

The gods appear in many forms,
carrying with them unwelcome things.
What people thought would happen never did.
What they did not expect, the gods made happen.
That's what this story has revealed.

― amateur!!st, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I was wrong about Poseidon, the deity in question is Artemis.

― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm trying to remember specifics of the paper, and failing. the only thing coming to mind is a bit from i used from the bluest eye, something about how he wanted to fuck her, but tenderly and then he wanted to wring her neck but also tenderly. i wrote most of it in a 10-hour adderol-fueled burst of insanity. the theme was sexual violence and the sacrifice of the daughter. go liberal arts!

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

― adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

lauren, did you ever read the secret diary of laura palmer?

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

in a similarly feverish night i wrote a paper on melville's bartleby and hal 9000 from 2001: a space odyssey

― amateur!!st, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

ts: the secret diary of laura palmer vs. the diary of agent dale cooper vs. the "diane" tapes vs. twin peaks: an access guide to the town

(bonus points to those who guess which of these i have *two* copies of)

― amateur!!st, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

the secret diary is GREBT! So was that book of Agent Cooper's tapes.

(argh, xpost)

I had two copies of the access guide for a while.

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

the secret diary is so NASTY AND WRONG

also great

― amateur!!st, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

the Diary of Agent Dale Cooper is filled with really crazy scenes, like the severed hands holding the tiles from the chess board (or something. maybe they were playing cards. I guess it wasn't so memorable after all). Anyway it was more interesting as a stand-alone than Laura Palmer's Diary.

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I have all of those books. I was pretty young when I read LP's diary and it was very rude and exciting. Well done, Jennifer Lynch.

I also have the book of "critical approaches to Twin Peaks". Has anybody else read that?

― adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

haha xxpost

― adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

serge and charlotte gainsbourg--"lemon incest" classic or dud?

so is it incest week on ILX?

― amateur!!st, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Twin Peaks and that Diary made me want to work for the FBI because I became convinced there was a deep hidden strain of mysterious supernatural evil at work in the world that tied together all misfortunate events. I was crazy!

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I wonder if TOMBOT read these books...

― adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)

You have to have 20/20 vision to work for the FBI, am I right? That's me disqualified.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Ask Clarice!

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I loved learning who Diane really was on the booklet that came with the Twin Peaks soundtrack.

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

my friend had the secret diary of laura palmer, and also the dale cooper diary. the latter gave me nightmares. wow. how i loved that show. i was the log lady for halloween one year.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

i was so obsessed with this show through the first season I think it literally kept me alive while I was hospitalized for bleeding ulcers and other problems. I remember watching the third to last episode from a hospital bed out of my mind on morphine.

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

My younger brother would dress like Bobby Briggs year-round. (parted haircut, leather jacket with letter on back, flannel shirt around waist, lotsa t-shirts, boots)

― sexyDancer, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I loved learning who Diane really was on the booklet that came with the Twin Peaks soundtrack.
-- gygax! (gygax0...), August 31st, 2004.

huh? i must've missed this. (not that i don't own the soundtrack you doubtas)

i like the part in the cooper diaries about his wild hippie fling with the girl from bryn mawr

― amateur!!st, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

everyone dressed that way in 1990 (xpost)

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

oh i totally wanted to save shelly from bobby briggs and leo

― amateur!!st, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

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