also maura otm x2
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 21 June 2018 20:59 (five years ago) link
hmm after weighing all the perspectives here i'm going to say that koko definitely understood languages and could talk in complete sentences that communicated complex thoughts
― na (NA), Thursday, 21 June 2018 21:06 (five years ago) link
Nothing against this perfectly nice gorilla, who absolutely did not "master" any kind of language.
― flappy bird, Thursday, 21 June 2018 21:09 (five years ago) link
Obituary thread took a weird turn.
― womp womp that sucker (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 June 2018 21:10 (five years ago) link
was gonna say
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 21 June 2018 21:20 (five years ago) link
this should be a new tradition, we should assess each dead celebrity's capacity for language
― na (NA), Thursday, 21 June 2018 21:25 (five years ago) link
hahaha
― a shomin-geki poster with some horror elements (WilliamC), Thursday, 21 June 2018 21:26 (five years ago) link
feel like trump's RIP thread is going to be a tough one to sort out on that front
― noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 21 June 2018 21:28 (five years ago) link
t/s: koko vs harambe
― topless from 11am (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 21 June 2018 21:32 (five years ago) link
no
― maura, Thursday, 21 June 2018 21:40 (five years ago) link
It's kind of a blessing that Koko went to her grave unable to understand the prescriptivists smugly signing at her about how shitty her grasp of ASL was.
― Rep. Bob Excellentfrappuccino (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 June 2018 21:50 (five years ago) link
CaAL otm tho
― valorous wokelord (silby), Thursday, 21 June 2018 21:54 (five years ago) link
its winehouse all over again you vold hearted bastards
― tired culché (darraghmac), Thursday, 21 June 2018 21:55 (five years ago) link
fuck this phone tho
Some Vold-hearted Snapes up itt.
― Rep. Bob Excellentfrappuccino (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 June 2018 21:56 (five years ago) link
Does that mean meanies who are dead inside because if so then otm.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:01 (five years ago) link
Idk I think great apes are cool regardless.
― valorous wokelord (silby), Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:02 (five years ago) link
https://media.signbsl.com/videos/bsl/corpusngt/mp4/vlc-record-2015-04-08-14h24m56s-BSL_CN_lex_b.mpg-.mp4
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:02 (five years ago) link
They are very cool!
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:03 (five years ago) link
I'm going to make sure to buy a little extra column space for my obit on the offchance that anyone feels the need to 'well, actually' any of the claims made about me.
― Rep. Bob Excellentfrappuccino (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:07 (five years ago) link
Some sad news: Charles Krauthammer has died. Our obit is coming soon.— Paul Farhi (@farhip) June 21, 2018
― mookieproof, Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:07 (five years ago) link
Sad for whom?
― grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:07 (five years ago) link
couldn't even sign in gorilla the cunt
― tired culché (darraghmac), Thursday, 21 June 2018 22:19 (five years ago) link
RIP Charles Krauthammer. You looked like you gave missions in GTA IV and died just now— Dan O'Sullivan (@Bro_Pair) June 21, 2018
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 22 June 2018 00:50 (five years ago) link
Farewell to a subtle mind, inquisitive spirit, and boundless imagination.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 June 2018 01:18 (five years ago) link
exclusive ILX footage of CK's last moments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_WEvWcVoFw
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 June 2018 01:57 (five years ago) link
True, Koko learned to play the recorder, but she never learned *not* to play the recorder.— Waldo Jaquith (@waldojaquith) June 22, 2018
― flappy bird, Friday, 22 June 2018 05:09 (five years ago) link
RIP Koko.
― womp womp that sucker (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2018 10:03 (five years ago) link
you wouldn't have used that eulogy for a human if you'd have seen them throwing a turd at someone, double standards for these apes you see!
― calzino, Friday, 22 June 2018 10:14 (five years ago) link
I think the eulogy was for Charles Krauthammer, whoever he is, but point taken.
― womp womp that sucker (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2018 10:27 (five years ago) link
koko's columns would have had a way better effect on public policy than krauthammer's.
― maura, Friday, 22 June 2018 14:15 (five years ago) link
Whether or not Koko used language is by no means a straightforward question. I’m perfectly happy with them defaulting to say they did.
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Friday, 22 June 2018 15:04 (five years ago) link
I agree with mfktz -- there is a strict definition of language and Koko clearly did not use language. It has nothing to do with prescription/description either.
― adam the (abanana), Friday, 22 June 2018 18:52 (five years ago) link
If y'all hustle, it may not be too late to get 'DISCLAIMER: DID NOT ACUTALLY KNOW SIGN LANGUAGE' engraved on Koko's tombstone.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 June 2018 18:59 (five years ago) link
is there a word for what Koko did? because people are just going to keep calling it language unless a better term is found
― silverfish, Friday, 22 June 2018 19:10 (five years ago) link
You mean besides 'jack shit'? I guess that's two words.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 June 2018 19:11 (five years ago) link
is there a strict definition of 'jack shit' and did Koko clearly do it?
― silverfish, Friday, 22 June 2018 19:13 (five years ago) link
I swore to myself to leave this thread alone, but for the record anyone calling themself a 'prescriptivist' or telling people off for their 'poor grammar' knows nothing about how language works. Also while I'm here, I have nothing for respect for Koko, but anthropomorphising her is imo a shitty way to appreciate an intelligent animal.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 22 June 2018 19:20 (five years ago) link
that's how I feel about furries
― valorous wokelord (silby), Friday, 22 June 2018 19:21 (five years ago) link
no shade tho
― valorous wokelord (silby), Friday, 22 June 2018 19:22 (five years ago) link
wait was Koko a prescriptivist?
― Kostic negotiator (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 June 2018 19:23 (five years ago) link
Obituary thread still delivering.
― womp womp that sucker (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2018 19:30 (five years ago) link
I don't know - if she said 'block' (intending for someone to give her a block) and someone gave her a block Wittgenstein would consider that using language, no?
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Friday, 22 June 2018 19:33 (five years ago) link
Wittgenstein was a philosopher, not a linguist. Apologies for not having a sense of humour about people being proud of being ignorant about my field, I won't bother arguing any more.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 22 June 2018 19:36 (five years ago) link
your field sucks
― i want to get cancer (map), Friday, 22 June 2018 19:39 (five years ago) link
maybe think about going into something else
sorry if my joke about krauthammer’s ruinous ideology offended
― maura, Friday, 22 June 2018 19:41 (five years ago) link
http://assets.rebelcircus.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/fine_villoresi_001.jpg
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Friday, 22 June 2018 19:41 (five years ago) link
i stand by my belief that the world would be a better place if the marty peretz era new republic’s entire staff was made up of anyone else though
― maura, Friday, 22 June 2018 19:42 (five years ago) link
I don't know if this has been mentioned but ASL, BSL etc aren't syntactically the same as spoken English btw
― Kostic negotiator (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 June 2018 19:42 (five years ago) link