US Politics, June 2018: This is a total goat rodeo.

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http://thehill.com/latino/393171-michigan-receiving-detained-immigrant-children-as-young-as-3-months-old

this is fucking reprehensible!I know damn well thye have no plan in place to get this babies back with their parents at any point .

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 13:32 (eight years ago)

I have no idea how I had got this far without realising that Ned and Corey’s favourite expression is sad_trombone.wav

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 13:58 (eight years ago)

womp womp rats

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 14:08 (eight years ago)

can 'womp womp' be the July thread title

that or "We Got Space Force", or "Space Force Womp Womp".

Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 14:12 (eight years ago)

"Space Force Womp Womp".

― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, June 20, 2018 7:12 AM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the long lost zapp single

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 14:15 (eight years ago)

prob should've gone with my first instinct to make a monster magnet joke

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 14:16 (eight years ago)

good mourning!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 14:18 (eight years ago)

xpost As a descriptor for the GOP?

Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 14:18 (eight years ago)

lol

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 14:18 (eight years ago)

the comrades are good as hell

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:33 (eight years ago)

yeah all the direct action shit has been super inspiring

Simon H., Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:34 (eight years ago)

https://apnews.com/1dafadd6fee4447cadd4a0179553026e

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:35 (eight years ago)

huh

sleeve, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:37 (eight years ago)

but wait they were just doing their jobs and Democrats needed to change the laws to stop it, I'm so confused

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:38 (eight years ago)

"according to two people familiar with her thinking"

They asked her ex and her bestie

Evan, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:39 (eight years ago)

the lede from that link

WASHINGTON (AP) — Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen is drafting an executive action for President Donald Trump that would direct her department to keep families together in detention after they are detained crossing the border illegally, according to two people familiar with her thinking. They spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the effort before its official announcement.

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:39 (eight years ago)

It's a little thing, but I'm on hold right now with SiriusXm to cancel, mostly for the satisfaction of decrying the garbage on the Patriot channel.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:39 (eight years ago)

trump and his neo-nazi friends are going to be disappointed to learn that public outcry might force them to stop taking children and their families hostage

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:41 (eight years ago)

eh they got what they wanted: half the country is frothing at the mouth in excitement over ripping brown kids away from their parents. and they'll get to say they "fixed" it. but we should still be doing it. but hey, at least they reversed what was *actually* obama's fault. but it's actually good. and needed.

and the next thing will be worse. and the chuds will enthusiastically cheer that, too. even though it was really obama's doing.

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:41 (eight years ago)

The person said the secretary believes there is little certainty that Congress will act to fix the separation issue that has been dominating news coverage and she is trying to find a solution.

fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

sciatica, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:42 (eight years ago)

Corey Lewandowski, who said "womp womp" on national TV today regarding a 10-year old immigrant girl with Down Syndrome being taken from her mother, works for a PAC that gets donations from a company that owns private immigration detention facilities. https://t.co/CQJRCGfSXy pic.twitter.com/rztMztYisI

— Aaron Sankin (@ASankin) June 20, 2018

Stanley Therapy (stevie), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:42 (eight years ago)

This was always the goal: hold on until the last, most excruciating moment, making sure that Congress got duly blamed, then sign an exec orer that makes Trump look like a hero to his racist base.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:44 (eight years ago)

half the country

this is never true

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:44 (eight years ago)

you're right: approx half the voting public

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:46 (eight years ago)

also, put all the other Nazi crap in the bill:

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/gop-bills-to-lock-up-families-together-are-fulfilling-the-trump-admins-wishes

sleeve, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:47 (eight years ago)

how many ppl voted for Trump? 63 million? so i guess maybe only 60-61 million or so support the shit out of this.

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 15:47 (eight years ago)

This is what happens when immigrant families cross the border outside a port of entry: https://t.co/n0BCeT8OmP thanks @darlacameron @CEssig @emmaplatoff pic.twitter.com/K1CHq4zUc3

— amanda zamora (@amzam) June 20, 2018

i hope people are paying attention on the day we finally receive stats on the number of children who were sent to foster care because relatives in the US couldn't be located.

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:04 (eight years ago)

60million voted for trump, 63million voted for Hillary, I thought.

Stanley Therapy (stevie), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:04 (eight years ago)

the president's third wife is an immigrant. and so was his first wife. his sons, and one of his two daughters were born to mothers born outside our borders. i hope the GOP come to their senses but i'm not holding my breath

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:12 (eight years ago)

good praxis https://splinternews.com/heres-stephen-millers-cell-phone-number-if-you-need-it-1826985626

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:16 (eight years ago)

I'm so confused pt 2: weren't they just saying everything was fine, media was making something out of nothing? why would they need to make an executive order or have Congress pass a law to fix something that isn't broken??

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:20 (eight years ago)

the important thing is that from the perspective of the border patrol, everything is fine and nothing has changed since 2014, these children are only detained for a couple hours, tops. they do hand them over to ICE and they have no idea what happens after that, but keep in mind that everything is fine and nothing has changed, from the border patrol's perspective.

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:24 (eight years ago)

the president's third wife is an immigrant. and so was his first wife. his sons, and one of his two daughters were born to mothers born outside our borders. i hope the GOP come to their senses but i'm not holding my breath


White globalist Steve Bannon hobnobbing with rightwingers in Italy and Hungary is making me think it’s not as much about immigration as we thought...

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:24 (eight years ago)

the president's third wife is an immigrant. and so was his first wife.

... and so was his mother. Paleskins though.

We can be herpes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:27 (eight years ago)

xp will I don't totally get that post, can you clarify?

sleeve, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:28 (eight years ago)

It's non-white immigrants.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:30 (eight years ago)

xp will I don't totally get that post, can you clarify?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/on-the-road-in-europe-steve-bannon-forecasts-a-brave-new-world-as-populists-prepare-to-govern/2018/05/22/05d69762-5d15-11e8-b656-236c6214ef01_story.html?utm_term=.24c87fd3096f

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:31 (eight years ago)

ah thx

sleeve, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:31 (eight years ago)

womp womp

This is unbelievable.

The Capitol is filled with wives, husbands and kids, who have flown into town because they were invited to go to the White House. This is a highlight of many congressional families’ summers. https://t.co/FvNz2YjGqf

— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) June 20, 2018

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:35 (eight years ago)

I am watching this bullshit conference with Trump. Such bullshit.

Yerac, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:35 (eight years ago)

Shakespearean!

President Trump on immigration:

“The dilemma is that if you’re weak... the country is going to be overrun with millions of people, and if you’re strong, then you don’t have any heart. That's a tough dilemma. Perhaps I’d rather be strong, but that's a tough dilemma.” pic.twitter.com/YYkGgW4yjm

— NBC News (@NBCNews) June 20, 2018

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:37 (eight years ago)

cool cool, just the president deciding if he'd rather be feared or loved in the middle of everything

21st savagery fox (m bison), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:40 (eight years ago)

anyway, like always, this is a particularly depressing day for blue feed red feed

http://graphics.wsj.com/blue-feed-red-feed/#/immigration

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:42 (eight years ago)

(yes, "like always" and "particular"; every time is a new nadir of depressing)

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:45 (eight years ago)

oof.

President Trump is preparing to issue an executive order as soon as Wednesday that ends the separation of families at the border by indefinitely detaining parents and children together, according to a person familiar with the White House plans.

Mr. Trump’s executive order would seek to get around an existing 1997 consent decree, known as the Flores settlement, that prohibits the federal government from keeping children in immigration detention — even if they are with their parents — for more than 20 days.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/20/us/politics/trump-immigration-children-executive-order.html

The President says he’s signing an executive order to end family separations. The actual aim seems to be to pick a fight with the courts and allow separations to continue while blaming judges. According to The New York Times, the President will sign an executive order allowing children to be detained indefinitely with their parents. The problem is that that violates a 1997 consent decree saying that you can’t detain/imprison children for more than 20 days (technically what’s currently happening isn’t detention). It straight up violates that order. So what will almost inevitably happen is that a court will step in, say you can’t do that and then Trump will announce that the judge is forcing him to keep separating families.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trumps-ploy

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:00 (eight years ago)

Could result in a more interesting order than he's expecting, though.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:02 (eight years ago)

thanks Karl, that's totally what he's doing here

sleeve, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:03 (eight years ago)

'I'm not touching you, you can't get mad' shall be the whole of the law.

Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:05 (eight years ago)

Like this has just been a year and a half of Trump with his finger waggling in the periphery of our vision and being all, what, I'm just staaaaanding here.

Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:06 (eight years ago)

an important tidbit to keep in mind when you're arguing with my mom people who try to bypass the tricky "detaining toddlers" aspect of the story with "all i care about is enforcing the law and keeping this country safe" bullshit:

For all the talk from the WH about immigrant criminals, the practical effect of the new policy is to radically shift public resources from prosecuting people with criminal records to prosecuting desperate people with no record seeking refuge.

— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) June 20, 2018

Before this policy roughly 90% of prosecutions in McAllen federal court were of detained immigrants with criminal records. Since the new policy it’s flipped!

90% of those being prosecuted have no record and are facing misdemeanor charges for first time entry.

— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) June 20, 2018

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:20 (eight years ago)


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