Queer Eye For The Straight Guy WTF

i legit sobbed at the end of ep 2

yeah the one-two of tammye’s little speeches to each of the fab five followed by her sermon was super-powerful

I had to lol at Tan recommending yet another rolled up sleeve to the first dude he took to the menswear store.

Idk, I'm not feeling this season as much as the first. The novelty has worn off and now it seems quite formulaic and designed to wring as much emotion as possible out of almost every scene. It's almost banal at times and full of platitudes. Jonathan will say "yasssss" about 100x an episode. Karamo will say "you got this" to motivate some timid schlub. Tan will give bad, basic fashion advice. Bobby will put some tacky Live Laugh Love art up and make the house look like a million other reno shows, and Antoni will zhuzh up a toasted sandwich or w/e. They put up a series of inspirational meme quotes including Buddha and Rumi, rmde.

The worst was on s1 tho when Bobby whacked up several inspirational quote prints in the new place for the dweeb comedian, and then I noticed they'd used the same one in one of the apartments that was hanging up in the Fab 5 apartment. Like maybe try a litle harder and mix it up a bit instead of having these terrible empty Walmart prints shouting affirmations at people.

Antoni is whatever, he's hot and nice. Karamo moves stuff along. I think Bobby, Tan and JVN have done amazing work and I don't get tired of their shtick ( I think I only saw 1-2 things that I didn't like about of what Tan recommended). These subjects are so dire that they kind of make me a little mad sometimes; I accidentally feel like I understand what Jordan Peterson is so aggro about with guys needing to clean their rooms.

I was actually wondering what the reno budget was for each episode.

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I don't know what it is about William but I can definitely picture him wearing a fedora

omg, you guys i'm like totally qiqing right now!

let's have a qiqi

(lock the doors tight)

Jonathan will say "yasssss" about 100x an episode.

If I have any problem with season two, it's that there is not enough of this, not that there is too much. One of my favourite episodes from last season was the one with the really big family who clearly didn't have much money, and watching Jonathan goof around in Target with them, buying little cases for all their hairbrushes, and seeing how much they just loved his shtick, was great fun. This season is a bit too issue-y for me. Too much crying and hugging, not enough firemen being forced to learn to dance.

That was an endearing scene, but apart from that there's just something cringey about recycling a catchphrase that's already a little unfashionable. Aren't they supposed to be ahead of the curve or something? It makes me think of Broad City, the way Ilana says it ad nauseam. Apparently Jonathan explains to a straight guy later in the season that "yas queen" is a "major slogan for the gays". I think he means basic gays? There's something about how it's been taken out of the drag world and normalised, but also presented in this trite sort of way. I guess it's still fresh for normies so it's easier for him to get away with it.

I know I'm coming across like the bitchy BFFs from that episode of High Maintenance, but it still bugs me. I know Eureka says it a lot on the current season of RuPaul too, and it's like yes girl we get it you learned a catchphrase now pls stfu.

Yas queen isn't that common yet. It's not like hot mess or fierce which became common a decade ago?

I don't know, living in major cities I always try to really keep perspective that most of the country is not up to date on design blogs or queer slang.

Pray tell what cutting edge queer catchphrases the show could have included and helped mainstream faster.

I am assuming that is for qiqing.

I'm not saying they need to use up to date catchphrases, asshole, it's that the one Jonathan is using is embarrassingly overused, kind of falling out of fashion, and comes across as trite. So I'd prefer no catchphrases than one which has already had its moment. xpost

And I get that for many people this may be an unfamiliar phrase, however we're hearing it pretty much every episode, multiple times. It's one of those catchphrases that's effective when used sparingly, but if you're using it over and over again, when it's that conspicuous, it's going to get annoying pretty fast.

I'm not saying they need to use up to date catchphrases, asshole

Ooh, thank you! I wasn't aware that the vanguard queers had coined "asshole" as what relics like me are still calling "the new hotness."

I'm reasonably confident "Miss Vanjie" will make its way into the first S3 episode.

hope so babe

fyi I also dislike the self satisfied milking of Vanjie on RuPaul. Even that has almost had its moment, and I didn't think Ru got it as much as some other people or mined it very effectively. It was an internet thing and then Ru ran with that and then kind of pandered to people that thought the mere mention of Vanjie was hilarious, when it was all about the delivery and peculiarity of the moment. Ru tried to mimic it and claim some of the glory and it fell flat. It actually wouldn't surprise me if it showed up on Queer Eye next season.

god i feel like Morbs even though i'm pretty sure Eric is being dickish

it’s ok if stuff annoys you but also:

i think a lot what seems overused & behind the times or even basic/provincial to you & more urbane viewers may be totally cutting edge to another portion of viewers ie lots of normcore ppl watch the show too i think

xpost I dunno, the show is trying to appeal to a broad/mainstream to include conservative audience without hiding that queerness runs a spectrum of personalities. I think it's successful. I do agree there are a lot more possibly forced tears this season but I think the clothes, renovations and grooming have been on point. Basic but nice and modern, easily likeable.

I was in love with that green bedroom. And the new space for that 18 yr old.

Yeah, if you pause the show and it goes to the restart screen that screen shows an image of a box of tissues with the five guys on it!

I'm being somewhat wilfully dickish yes, but that's kind of how these cultural signposts work. Nearly every other line in any ep of RPDR is a direct steal from Paris is Burning, nearly 30 years later.

Also, the original Queer Eye did this all the time too. I still remember, with a cringe, when Carson talked about how women have to shave their chochas.

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Yeah and I get that too about RPDR. I understand he's supposedly paying homage and don't even really mind shameless copying, but that gets a bit tired too. I think Paris is Burning is well known enough in mainstream culture that people recognise when he's lifting from it, but sometimes I think he leans too heavily on it for someone that emphasises the importance of uniqueness.

I agree, Carey. I think the clothes and grooming have improved to suit the people's styles. Not so sure about the renovation. I think they're nice enough but there's still something a little bit too design mag or design store catalogue about them. I'm kind of quibbling though, they're pretty much always improvements on what people had. I guess I just fundamentally disagree with some of the choices Bobby makes.

lol at giving that fuckin kid who lied to his mom abt graduating college a white couch, burn

signs that ilx has damaged yr brain #461: impossible to see the phrase 'white couch' without thinking of gear's roommate's adventures in buttsecks

I knew I'd seen Clarkston talked about somewhere before.

I think Paris is Burning is well known enough in mainstream culture that people recognise when he's lifting from it,

i don't think so. i honestly don't even think the stupider contestants on RPDR even know what paris is burning is so i doubt the wider public do. actually RPDR needs to just burn, at this point.

I can see where you think the renovations are a little too one dimensional. People tend to still really like motivational words in frames or on walls though (I blame Keep Calm and Carry On for all of that). Plus it's cheap. RPDR has gone downhill right? I stopped after Sasha Velour won but have been thinking about catching another season. I think people recognize that a movie called Paris is Burning exists (especially because of Madonna) but I don't think a lot of people have watched it in the most recent decade. I am honestly surprised how little so many contestants prepare for the show. Take a sewing class at Joanne's. c'mon.

And seriously what was up with the persian dude. Was he a stoner or just a scammer?

i don't think so. i honestly don't even think the stupider contestants on RPDR even know what paris is burning is so i doubt the wider public do. actually RPDR needs to just burn, at this point.

LOL, that reference you were mad about no one knowing about from a few weeks back. Literally no one knew about it. You're being ridiculous.

don't be rude, Eric. I wasn't talking about that. It needs to burn for a whole host of other reasons.

Yerac I think a lot of both

Really truly charmed by eps 1-3 of season 2 yesterday. Feeling Tan, especially after someone else twitted him for having no feelings. Right there with you, buddy. Us hearts of ice gotta stick together.

Also I don't watch RPDR but it has been a big support for an acquaintance of mine whose son is one of the currently feted "drag kids." So whatever that show can do for people, it should go right ahead and do it.

I love Tan. Especially after reading that he really, really didn't want to do the show and he seems so vital to it now.

I've had some issues with RPDR but it also probably comes from me watching all past seasons only this year (so all of the terminology for femininity, like serving fish, fishiness, tilapia, whatever is annoying). I am glad Tan acknowledged that under the umbrella of LGBTQ, there is a lot that each group does not know about each other. See also: how poorly Rupaul handled the questions about trans applicants to the show.

Absolutely. We are family, but every family has relatives that simply don't get along.

Tan is great

Also, I started going grey as a teenager and now my hair is prolly 75% grey so I like how he rocks it youthfully. I prolly have another 10 years before I even think about letting it all grow out.

I liked the Burning Man dude a lot and after a lackluster beginning, that episode had good results, especially on the grooming front. The fashion styling was a bit poor I thought. But seriously what is the point of Antoni this season other than as eye candy? I mean a bowl of peanut something with coriander and onions jfc.

Oh I hated Antoni's nut thing. Wet and spicy nuts, with falling herbs to eat with your hands??? Insanity.

Can we all agree that the interiors guy is the only one doing anything like heavy lifting out of the five?

yass.

antoni should just use the time to teach these dorks how to cook eggs properly, or how to grill a steak properly, simple hearty food cooked well, but that would make for boring tv prob

i also liked burning man dude a lot and empathized with his midlife crisis but lol reno, close call there

actually n/m the consistently funniest part of this show is watching these ppl walk into their new remodeled awesome kitchen and then antoni teaches them how to put peanuts in a bowl or something similarly lame

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