US Politics, June 2018: This is a total goat rodeo.

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it's going to be a heart-swelling victory when Dems take back power and settle for deporting adults in record numbers instead

Simon H., Friday, 15 June 2018 19:37 (eight years ago)

hmmm
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/06/15/scott-pruitt-is-going-to-be-fired-very-soon/?utm_term=.d538c35dd056

at this point my only question is will his tenure be longer than Gorsuch's mom's

Οὖτις, Friday, 15 June 2018 19:48 (eight years ago)

I doubt any Americans knew a G7 meeting even took place.

They do, but it's only because of the Trudeau feud.

Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 15 June 2018 19:49 (eight years ago)

dissension in the ranks!
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/392507-gop-lawmaker-house-republicans-considering-removing-paul-ryan

Οὖτις, Friday, 15 June 2018 20:05 (eight years ago)

Very useful thread re Manafort's current bind from a former US attorney.

Thread:

Some thoughts on the immediate practical effects of Paul Manafort having bail revoked.

1. He will spend tonight in jail.

2. He will stay in jail until either (a) an appeals court overturns the bail ruling or (b) his trial. /1

— Mitchell Epner (@MitchellEpner) June 15, 2018

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 June 2018 20:31 (eight years ago)

I predict Manafort doesn't flip and bets everything on getting a pardon

Οὖτις, Friday, 15 June 2018 20:33 (eight years ago)

which tbh looks like a very safe bet

Οὖτις, Friday, 15 June 2018 20:34 (eight years ago)

he has been treated so very unfairly iirc

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 15 June 2018 20:36 (eight years ago)

"considering" is a word doing a lot of work there; I'm "considering" selling all my possessions and moving to the woods like justin timberlake

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 15 June 2018 20:36 (eight years ago)

what do mob rules say? that's what he'll do.

Hunt3r, Friday, 15 June 2018 20:44 (eight years ago)

mob never had a don in the WH

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Friday, 15 June 2018 20:45 (eight years ago)

“The president supports both the moderate and the more conservative House immigration bill,” one of the two White House officials said Friday. The other official said Trump misunderstood the question that was posed on “Fox and Friends,” which prompted the president to say that he “certainly wouldn’t sign the more moderate one.”

let's guess which one of these officials is about to be fired

Οὖτις, Friday, 15 June 2018 20:47 (eight years ago)

"deception, detection, and eliciting responses training", huh

difficult listening hour, Friday, 15 June 2018 21:48 (eight years ago)

enhanced euphemization

difficult listening hour, Friday, 15 June 2018 21:48 (eight years ago)

trump tweet

'The Democrats are forcing the breakup of families at the Border with their horrible and cruel legislative agenda. Any Immigration Bill MUST HAVE full funding for the Wall, end Catch & Release, Visa Lottery and Chain, and go to Merit Based Immigration. Go for it! WIN!'

this is a hostagetaker

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 15 June 2018 22:20 (eight years ago)

it's sick

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 15 June 2018 22:20 (eight years ago)

yup

Οὖτις, Friday, 15 June 2018 22:21 (eight years ago)

monstrous. I don't think this gambit will play well with the general public tbh (or the Democrats)

Οὖτις, Friday, 15 June 2018 22:22 (eight years ago)

fucking "catch & release"

anything and everything to dehumanize immigrants

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 15 June 2018 22:51 (eight years ago)

yeah, it's part of their official lexicon, even: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/need-know-catch-release/
at least where i grew up, "catch & release" was always - every single time - a term about animals, fishing, hunting

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 15 June 2018 23:03 (eight years ago)

well well
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/392505-cook-political-report-moves-gop-chairmans-race-to-toss-up-inbox-x

Οὖτις, Friday, 15 June 2018 23:05 (eight years ago)

what the fuck are these people (from the hill)

http://thehill.com/sites/default/files/menuimage/rising-web-header-navigation_405x75-fixed.png

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Saturday, 16 June 2018 00:22 (eight years ago)

Both names sound like porn star names.

nickn, Saturday, 16 June 2018 00:30 (eight years ago)

well I won't pretend to be able to game out 2020 w any confidence at this point because who knows wtf is going to happen on this directionless rollercoaster. But if markets start to tank ahead of the Nov 2018 elections... I dunno how likely that is, economic consequences can take awhile.

― Οὖτις

am predicting the markets will tank right _after_ the 2018 elections and everybody will blame the democrats, because markets are dumb.

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what do mob rules say? that's what he'll do.

― Hunt3r

"you're all fools" iirc

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Saturday, 16 June 2018 00:42 (eight years ago)

Suck Bexton.

kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Saturday, 16 June 2018 00:49 (eight years ago)

https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-trumps-washington/theres-no-stopping-him-trump-insists-on-a-russia-summit

Russia may soon to turn out to be yet another test. Washington’s Russia hands are already steeling themselves for the possibility of a lavish, televised lovefest between the President and Putin. The President appears to have no agenda for his desired summit beyond the wish that it take place, leading many experts to fear that the meeting could turn out to be little more than a “bonding session with another brutal dictator,” as Alexander Vershbow, the U.S. Ambassador to Russia during George W. Bush’s Presidency, put it. Many Russia experts, however, worry that Putin is intent upon securing major concessions from Trump, such as relief from the tough economic sanctions that the U.S. and its allies have imposed on Russia since its 2014 Crimea invasion and 2016 election meddling. And Trump, they fear, might want to give it to him (though a veto-proof majority in Congress stood by the sanctions just last year).

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Saturday, 16 June 2018 01:16 (eight years ago)

Suck Bexton.

― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Saturday, June 16, 2018 1:49 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i approve of this post

you bet, nancy (map), Saturday, 16 June 2018 03:25 (eight years ago)

That piece quoting Sessions upthread is pretty frightening: “I would cite you to the Apostle Paul and his clear and wise command in Romans 13, to obey the laws of the government because God has ordained the government for his purposes.” Unambiguously claims divine authority for whatever laws can be passed. Church and State, separated for too long by nasty godless liberals!

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Saturday, 16 June 2018 03:48 (eight years ago)

And this from a bunch of goons who are constantly all “govt is evil; get government off our backs!!”

tobo73, Saturday, 16 June 2018 09:22 (eight years ago)

If they meant one word of that shit about obeying the law, there wouldn't be any complaints about having to bake cakes for and shoot wedding photos of same sex couples.

a shomin-geki poster with some horror elements (WilliamC), Saturday, 16 June 2018 11:30 (eight years ago)

Paul Ryan gettin ratio'd HARD here

My life changed the day I became a father. Liza, Charlie, and Sam are my highest priority. Wishing all of the dads out there a happy early #FathersDay pic.twitter.com/w3UsSkR4Lf

— Paul Ryan (@SpeakerRyan) June 16, 2018

frogbs, Saturday, 16 June 2018 21:24 (eight years ago)

You know Ryan puts his family first. He's not running for reelection just so he can spend more time with them. I hope he never works again and becomes a house daddy, happily raising his children to be better people than he is. Much better people.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 16 June 2018 22:45 (eight years ago)

This seems somewhat important: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/06/southern-baptists-call-off-the-culture-war/563000/

Frederik B, Saturday, 16 June 2018 22:47 (eight years ago)

If the generational shift the author is describing has already happened in the SBC, then it was a shift that made no difference to U.S. politics in 2016. It's hard to believe that whatever is happening with Southern Baptists is anything but a gradual, almost imperceptible, change in terms of voting patterns.

The worst outcome for the Republicans would be an erosion of their control over the political organizing power the churches represent. Churches are the nuclei of community in the rural south, at least as potent as the local high school football team.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 16 June 2018 22:58 (eight years ago)

Classy leadership.

"A lawsuit filed against Pressler alleging decades of sexual molestation, beginning while the plaintiff was just 14, included two additional affidavits from individuals alleging that Pressler had committed sexual misconduct against them while they were young men. And Patterson has drawn criticism for encouraging abused women to submit to their violent husbands. He was dismissed from his post as president of Southwestern Seminary after being accused of failing to properly report at least two allegations of rape. More than 3,000 Southern Baptist women signed a petition calling for his resignation."

earlnash, Saturday, 16 June 2018 23:45 (eight years ago)

get the actual foh. like evangelicals—even country club evangelicals like the SBC—are just going to chill out with their axe-grinding. their grievance theology is the only thing that fills pews anymore.

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Sunday, 17 June 2018 00:24 (eight years ago)

what, you think you're annoyed about thousands of children being separated from their families for no reason? stephen miller is annoyed that YOU'RE annoyed, so eat it

“No one in our government is willing to take moral lectures from people who support and perpetuate policies that grievously harm innocent Americans,” Mr. Miller added.

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Sunday, 17 June 2018 01:09 (eight years ago)

if stephen miller was more visible and vocal i think he'd be the second hated man in the united states

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Sunday, 17 June 2018 01:09 (eight years ago)

second most hated man

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Sunday, 17 June 2018 01:10 (eight years ago)

Billy Graham's son and the Catholic bishops both came out strongly vs the child detentions this week.

Let's see if they're willing to protest.

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 17 June 2018 01:12 (eight years ago)

second most hated man

― obviously DLC (Karl Malone)

give him a couple months and he probably will be

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Sunday, 17 June 2018 01:14 (eight years ago)

Billy Graham's son... came out strongly vs the child detentions this week.

that is legitimately shocking

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Sunday, 17 June 2018 01:16 (eight years ago)

“No one in our government is willing to take moral lectures from because we're people who support and perpetuate policies that grievously harm innocent Americans,” Mr. Miller added

FIXED

Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 17 June 2018 02:52 (eight years ago)

If the generational shift the author is describing has already happened in the SBC, then it was a shift that made no difference to U.S. politics in 2016. It's hard to believe that whatever is happening with Southern Baptists is anything but a gradual, almost imperceptible, change in terms of voting patterns.

The worst outcome for the Republicans would be an erosion of their control over the political organizing power the churches represent. Churches are the nuclei of community in the rural south, at least as potent as the local high school football team.

― A is for (Aimless), 17. juni 2018 00:58 (eleven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I mean, you're probably right, but the article seems to me to be claiming the shift is in response to 2016 and #MeToo.

Frederik B, Sunday, 17 June 2018 10:51 (eight years ago)

Chuck Schumer said “the Summit was what the Texans call all cattle and no hat.” Thank you Chuck, but are you sure you got that right? No more nuclear testing or rockets flying all over the place, blew up launch sites. Hostages already back, hero remains coming home & much more!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 17, 2018

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 17 June 2018 11:54 (eight years ago)

hero remains coming home & much more!

cr.ht (crüt), Sunday, 17 June 2018 12:25 (eight years ago)

a brand new bestie for one.

Stevolende, Sunday, 17 June 2018 12:32 (eight years ago)

“what’s that? no, i meant a hero remains, coming home. was talkin bout myself! Great!”

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 17 June 2018 12:49 (eight years ago)

Wtf @ “all cattle and no hat” rmde

Οὖτις, Sunday, 17 June 2018 14:19 (eight years ago)


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