nicolas cage, the greatest entertainer of our - or perhaps any - generation (a POLL)

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Οὖτις, Friday, 15 June 2018 16:31 (five years ago) link

He really has turned into Timothy Carey, except he makes more (shit) movies and plays the lead.

Didn't know he had a role in Stone's Snowden!

Did anyone see this thing, which featured Jerry Lewis (last film) as NC's dad?

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3733774/fullcredits/

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 June 2018 16:39 (five years ago) link

bears a physical resemblance to Carey too, oddly

Οὖτις, Friday, 15 June 2018 16:47 (five years ago) link

that's what i was primarily thinking of!

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 June 2018 16:52 (five years ago) link

so it ended up at only 1200 words but that's like 25 words per second of screen time so I think that's enough. goes up on monday.

challops trap house (Will M.), Friday, 15 June 2018 18:59 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI054ow6KJk

🤘

oder doch?, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 16:39 (five years ago) link

That looks incredible.

brain (krakow), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:01 (five years ago) link

excited for that one!!

challops trap house (Will M.), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:05 (five years ago) link

hell yes

Simon H., Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:08 (five years ago) link

the first panos kosmatos film beyond the black rainbow is worth watching.

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 17:09 (five years ago) link

sorry I cannot watch that without thinking "HOW'D IT GET BURNED!!!" over and over

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:16 (five years ago) link

BtBR is dope, this looks to be a different beast. Actually I'm a little concerned with how over-the-top grindhousey it looks, wackier than I was expecting

Simon H., Wednesday, 27 June 2018 19:17 (five years ago) link

holy shit i cannot wait to see mandy

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 June 2018 15:30 (five years ago) link

huh didn't register with me that that was the Black Rainbow guy. Kinda curious about it now

Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 June 2018 15:50 (five years ago) link

also man do I love Peggy Sue Got Married. love most of Cage's 80s films tbh

Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 June 2018 15:51 (five years ago) link

I got some unfortunate Hobo With a Shotgun vibes from some costuming & color correction choices in that trailer but Black Rainbow was incredible and advance critical word for Mandy has been very, very good so I'm here for it

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Friday, 29 June 2018 02:32 (five years ago) link

apparently there's a 2-minute scene where Cage chugs vodka and yells at everyone, that's worth the price of the ticket alone

frogbs, Friday, 29 June 2018 03:15 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

lol that was pretty good but I definitely would have put Bad Lieutenant in there, its sort of a darker spiritual successor to Vampire's Kiss, and somehow even more over the top

frogbs, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 14:16 (five years ago) link

My friends who caught Mandy are raving about it.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 14 August 2018 14:26 (five years ago) link

I'm now 60 of 88 movies into his oeuvre this summer and i'm losing my mind. but that writer is correct. he is the best actor

and i did see mandy after all -- my verdict:

- Acts 2 & 3 are precisely what you would expect from a panos cosmatos/nicolas cage weirdo revenge epic, and are great, but
- Act 1 hints at an incredible movie that i wish they had instead made: a kind of kaleidoscopic, quiet, suspenseful character piece. almost reminds me of the shining or rosemary's baby or something, really, really good
- yes the vodka scene is great but the crowd was whooping and hollering at what is actually a pretty harrowing scene, but it was a genre festival crowd so what do you expect

I've been going in mostly chronological order and I'm up to 2009 now. I'm far less worried now about the "rough patch" of 4, 5, 6 movies a year than i was at the beginning: i trust that this guy can make any movie watchable. plus i've heard some good/exciting things about some of the upcoming ones (joe, dog eat dog, arsenal) and the two very recent ones I've seen (mandy & mom and dad) were fantastic.

I'M ALMOST THERE

challops trap house (Will M.), Tuesday, 14 August 2018 14:26 (five years ago) link

I have watched the first 20 minutes of Snake Eyes on TV more than I have watched any film on TV

just throwing it in here bcz Will did not give that ludicrous tracking shot a shout-out in his blog

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Tuesday, 14 August 2018 17:43 (five years ago) link

i meant to! along with all of the different angles and first person stuff it was one of the things that made that movie feel so video game-y

challops trap house (Will M.), Tuesday, 14 August 2018 17:49 (five years ago) link

loved that guardian piece

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link

a kind of kaleidoscopic, quiet, suspenseful character piece. almost reminds me of the shining or rosemary's baby or something, really, really good

my friend compared that first act to Lost Highway

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 14 August 2018 18:20 (five years ago) link

I also urge Will to shamelessly plug his blog itt at least once a week

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Tuesday, 14 August 2018 18:47 (five years ago) link

Oh but I would never, ever dare to shamelessly plug on ILX! That would be OUTRAGEOUS!

challops trap house (Will M.), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 13:31 (five years ago) link

my friend compared that first act to Lost Highway

that works too! hints at a super duper excellent movie in panos that i want to see so bad

challops trap house (Will M.), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 13:32 (five years ago) link

Scored a copy of Schrader's homemade edit of his "Dying Of the Light". Looking forward to watching Cage lose his mind via ACTING and silly jump cuts!

An Uphill Battle For Legumes (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 15:01 (five years ago) link

Will: RFI your dinosaur kigurumi

faculty w1fe (silby), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 15:28 (five years ago) link

haha! my gf picked it up from the internet, i will ask her :D

challops trap house (Will M.), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 17:42 (five years ago) link

ty jay vee for leading me to this story

A few months later, Hirsch sent a links to clips and the trailer for “Dying of the Light” posted to Fandango in the weeks leading up to its release. Schrader wrote back right away: “Why the fuck are you sending me this you slime ball! You stole my life’s work. I will never forget or forgive.”

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 18:03 (five years ago) link

Also, I just posted Next (2007) which may be my magnum opus as far as photos go. i am very good at ms paint, you will hardly believe i don't have two triplet brothers!

not the movie, and certainly not the write-up, but the PHOTO!!

also her response re: kigurumi:
"Tell them I skinned a dinosaur for you because I love you."

challops trap house (Will M.), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 18:04 (five years ago) link

these reviews are awesome

Ghost Rider was such a garbage film but Nic Cage was the perfect lead. "so the main character, his head randomly starts on fire"...who else would you get for that role

frogbs, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 18:08 (five years ago) link

hahaha it was such a unique variety of trash! i'm low key excited about the sequel tho (prob watching some time next week), it's directed by the crank bros?!

challops trap house (Will M.), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 18:13 (five years ago) link

god I'm gonna have to watch Vampire's Kiss again aren't I

btw there is no way anyone from Philly actually talks like that. somewhere in the DVD extras they mention that Cage thought his character was supposed to be classy, so he just invents this "classy"-sounding accent for it out of nowhere. other cool fact is that Cage eating the cockroach was completely ad-libbed. he just thought that's what his character would do. Nic Cage is a lunatic.

frogbs, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 18:16 (five years ago) link

xpost

I paid to see it in the cinema in 3D as my only way of voting for Crank 3-D being financed, but it is no Crank

presumably a lot better than Ghost Rider 1 though

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 18:19 (five years ago) link

Drive Angry >> Ghost Rider

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 18:23 (five years ago) link

ok. one more thing. I own Deadfall on DVD. I'm always amused by the cover of it, which depicts what looks like some run-of-the-mill sci-fi thriller, complete with a Nic Cage that looks nothing like the guy who appears in the movie. I have no idea what the hell he's doing in this film. It's like every scene is completely ad libbed. He adopts a different accent every 2 minutes. Its so nuts.

frogbs, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 18:25 (five years ago) link

HIII FUCKIN YAAAAA!!!!!!

frogbs, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link

The most implausible thing about Next, a movie that involves a man who can see into the future, is Jessica Biel's character falling for Cage's character after about five minutes.

It's one of the few Philip K. Dick adaptations that, for better or worse, is very true to his writing style. It's pulpy and pretty ridiculous!

I've only seen Drive Angry once, in 3d in the theater, and was entertained because they did 3d how it should be done. Stuff flying at the audience, including shots where weapons are thrown right at the camera iirc

the first Ghost Rider is pretty boilerplate, the second one fails to be as fast-paced or ridiculous as the aforementioned Drive Angry which was disappointing, considering it's the Crank dudes running the show. best part is riffing on the fact any vehicle the Ghost Rider drives becomes hellish. worst is their "what happens when the Ghost Rider has to piss" bit

mh, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 18:35 (five years ago) link

reeeally looking forward to Mandy! I was really into Beyond the Black Rainbow and the idea of Panos Cosmatos applying his overly-stylized bit to a Nicholas Cage thriller is right up my alley

mh, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 18:37 (five years ago) link

ok. one more thing. I own Deadfall on DVD. I'm always amused by the cover of it, which depicts what looks like some run-of-the-mill sci-fi thriller, complete with a Nic Cage that looks nothing like the guy who appears in the movie. I have no idea what the hell he's doing in this film. It's like every scene is completely ad libbed. He adopts a different accent every 2 minutes. Its so nuts.

― frogbs, Wednesday, August 15, 2018 2:25 PM (fifty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

DUDE do you know about the movie Arsenal?! it's a quasi-official sequel! or at least, cage is playing the smae character (but it was made in 2016. and i don't think the character is 23 years older. it seems insane. i don't know much about it yet but if you have watched deadfall, it seems like arsenal is a must-watch just to see what they've done???)

also i just looked up the DVD case, which isn't the poster i had seen, and WTF? it looks homemade!! fits in with that movie tho, which as you said feels improvised and sooooo sloppy and weird. it is possibly a peak cage performance tho. i'd rank it top 5 so far for out-there cage performances.

god I'm gonna have to watch Vampire's Kiss again aren't I

btw there is no way anyone from Philly actually talks like that. somewhere in the DVD extras they mention that Cage thought his character was supposed to be classy, so he just invents this "classy"-sounding accent for it out of nowhere. other cool fact is that Cage eating the cockroach was completely ad-libbed. he just thought that's what his character would do. Nic Cage is a lunatic.

― frogbs, Wednesday, August 15, 2018 2:16 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

absolutely watch it again, it is monumental. it might be my fave of his movies (albeit with ~30 left to watch). only face/off might challenge it. and for the philly thing -- there's definitely SOMETHING philly-inspired to it, although yeah, nobody would actually talk like that. i think i heard the accent is based on his father or someone his father is friends with? oh and they had to shoot the cockroach scene TWICE. this is the only movie i think i've ever wanted to seek out the commentary for?

I paid to see it in the cinema in 3D as my only way of voting for Crank 3-D being financed, but it is no Crank

― 16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Wednesday, August 15, 2018 2:19 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

:( :( :(

challops trap house (Will M.), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 19:24 (five years ago) link

they only directed, didn't write it

Brian Crank's "Mom and Dad," from earlier this year, is a better combo of him and Cage

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 19:28 (five years ago) link

i watched that one last weekend! (because drive angry had been taken off Netflix and it was planned for a triple-feature i was putting on for my incredibly kind, patient friends and needed a quick replacement). that movie is astounding. soooooo wild. apparently it was even crazier in the first draft and they were forced to dilute it a bit, which is hard to imagine given the end product!

challops trap house (Will M.), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 19:56 (five years ago) link

The most implausible thing about Next, a movie that involves a man who can see into the future, is Jessica Biel's character falling for Cage's character after about five minutes.

yes but it's because he Groundhog Day's their every encounter! so creepy

the second one fails to be as fast-paced or ridiculous as the aforementioned Drive Angry which was disappointing (...) worst is their "what happens when the Ghost Rider has to piss" bit

both GR2 and Drive Angry coming up for me very soon, excited to chime in on this. the "what happens when he has to piss" part does NOT sound like a negative

reeeally looking forward to Mandy! I was really into Beyond the Black Rainbow and the idea of Panos Cosmatos applying his overly-stylized bit to a Nicholas Cage thriller is right up my alley

if someone makes a thread for it when it comes out please post it here, i have a lot to say on this dang movie!! i will probably see it again if i can!!

challops trap house (Will M.), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 19:59 (five years ago) link

I had no idea about Arsenal - to tell the truth I don't know much about his movies of the last 7-8 years, other than the fact that there are a lot of them. I'm watching the trailer, what the hell are with these wigs and fake moustaches? It looks like a high school play!

btw doesn't his character die halfway through Deadfall? makes this even better I guess

frogbs, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 20:27 (five years ago) link

HE DOES DIE HALFWAY THROUGH!! (i mean he could have maybe not died... but... like... his face was in boiling oil, and he never came back)

this thing looks completely jacked up and weird, and bad, and I promise to follow up once i've seen it!

challops trap house (Will M.), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 21:00 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

here is Will's interpretation of the Kick-Ass pitch meeting: http://www.brilliam.net/cagedheat/2018/08/24/58-kick-ass-2010/

▫◌▫ (sic), Monday, 17 September 2018 23:08 (five years ago) link

excellent

I remember the first time I saw this movie, I was not as aware of Nic Cage’s acting skills, and kinda thought the weird voice and the inability to walk/move properly were REAL, like something terrible had happened to Nic Cage in real life. What a relief it was to watch again and just realize it was because he is an excellent actor, and not an injured sad dude.

(bad lieutenent)

visiting, Monday, 17 September 2018 23:57 (five years ago) link


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