maybe we're not proving anything ;)
― Reggiano Jackson (gabbneb), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link
ida lupino
― blair underwood: "man up" (omar little), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link
I knew all of these names already and have seen all of their films, mostly in small cinemas in foreign countries.
― bnw, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link
glad 2 see weve solved this issue good work everyone
― Lamp, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link
Yes. Job done. What's next?
― Dante ... Bruno . Vico .. Passantino (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:38 (fifteen years ago) link
that hardly anyone wld be familiar with
Uh mostly yes gabbnebb, I'm not film-illiterate but Sofia and Amy Heckerling (who I love!) are the only ones I know just by hearing their names. Heckerling, who in spite of being a big name and director of well-liked movies had her last film buried straight to DVD for really no reason.
I mean you shouldn't have to do film festival circuits to be able to prove whatever point it is you are making.
― cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:38 (fifteen years ago) link
How do you strike a balance between wanting to entertain a mass audience, and also wanting to write something that's true, and maybe even a little painful?Heckerling: Well, there's another element involved, and that's knowing that there really are young people out there who care a great deal about what you say to them. There are these images and characters you want to give them to look up to, vs. what you're going to be allowed to do or say. It can be something as simple as a girl dressing a certain way. Do you dress her up so that she's comfortable, or so she'll look pretty, or because you like the way it looks? Is it too sexual? Do you want your daughter to have to dress that way and worry about it? It's tough.
Heckerling: Well, there's another element involved, and that's knowing that there really are young people out there who care a great deal about what you say to them. There are these images and characters you want to give them to look up to, vs. what you're going to be allowed to do or say. It can be something as simple as a girl dressing a certain way. Do you dress her up so that she's comfortable, or so she'll look pretty, or because you like the way it looks? Is it too sexual? Do you want your daughter to have to dress that way and worry about it? It's tough.
― cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:40 (fifteen years ago) link
Gillian ArmstrongNora EphronPhyllida Lloyd
― Reggiano Jackson (gabbneb), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:40 (fifteen years ago) link
harmony korine should be a woman's name
― velko, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link
And Sofia, believe it or not, MIGHT have a nepotism factor benefiting her. I know, I know, it's some grande challops.
― cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link
antonia bird
― blair underwood: "man up" (omar little), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:42 (fifteen years ago) link
miranda july is actually a dude
― velko, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:42 (fifteen years ago) link
uh no
― the sideburns are album-specific (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link
mirando
― blair underwood: "man up" (omar little), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:44 (fifteen years ago) link
ugh why did I look up Heckerling's filmography ;_;
― cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:44 (fifteen years ago) link
i don't think there is a single (American) director named on this thread who you need to go to a film festival to see, at least if you live in a major American city like most Ilxors.
― Reggiano Jackson (gabbneb), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:44 (fifteen years ago) link
wtf is naming female film directors proving, exactly?
― Lamp, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:33 (8 minutes ago) Permalink
that eventually we will have enough names to poll them on their physical attractiveness
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link
cat power
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link
well this thread didn't work out very well. Although I'm glad this random list of names has proven once and for all that there's no glass ceiling of sexism in the film industry. Tuomas the lone voice of reason (oddly)
― Wrinkles, I'll See You On the Other Side (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:47 (fifteen years ago) link
Wim WendersAkira KurosawaMcG
― ˈɒksnɑrd (jeff), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:50 (fifteen years ago) link
ugh gabbnebb I guess the thing is even most people in major American cities are probably not watching those movies AND (everyone forgets) not everyone lives in major American cities...before Netflix most of these wld be hard to RENT in less than 250k population cities. I mean, if you asked a non-ILXor person, say a coworker at the office or another person on the bus, to name even 25 directors it's really unlikely a woman wld come up, tho you are doing an A+ job at deluding yrself hey good job.
― cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:51 (fifteen years ago) link
Why are there so few female anythings at the top of any industry or art?
it was hollywood's blatant sexism that prevented leslie nielsen from moving into the director's chair
― velko, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link
btw Edward III I <3 you
― cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:53 (fifteen years ago) link
abbott i agree w/ you generally but i think the a decent % of ppl could name popular female directors michel gondry or ridley scott
― Lamp, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:55 (fifteen years ago) link
No woman has ever won best director, and only three have ever been nominated: Lina Wertmüller for 1976's Seven Beauties, Jane Campion for 1993's The Piano and Sofia Coppola for 2003's Lost in Translation.
One nearly every decade since the 1970s hey female directors are all over the place.
― cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:55 (fifteen years ago) link
It's weird that I'm having to argue the thread title is an accurate & valid question!
― cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:56 (fifteen years ago) link
That's how ignorance works, let's just pretend sexism isn't an issue and make some jokes.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:57 (fifteen years ago) link
i agree w/ u abbott
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:57 (fifteen years ago) link
but i still support making some jokes
It's pretty impressive that film has been around less that 125 years and is full of institutionalized sexism.
I am all about the female name joeks too btw.
― cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:59 (fifteen years ago) link
you are doing an A+ job at deluding yrself hey good job.
i'm not making the point you think i'm making, but good job deluding yrself
― Reggiano Jackson (gabbneb), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 17:59 (fifteen years ago) link
what point are you making then?
― cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 18:00 (fifteen years ago) link
fair (and fairly easily) answered question - but in the case of this particular industry I wonder what it is about film/directing that makes sexist "old boys' club" networks more enduring than in, say (as already mentioned), music or photography or literature or whatever. I mean, there are probably more female heads of state than there are well-known, mainstream female film directors... for an industry widely perceived as deeply liberal (and one that congratulates itself regularly for being so - heyo Oscars!) this seems like a rather glaring incongruity.
x-posts
― Wrinkles, I'll See You On the Other Side (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 18:00 (fifteen years ago) link
i would have agreed with abbott except i read the fantastic list of popular successful female directors provided in this thread so now im wondering why there are so few male directors working nowadays
― Lamp, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 18:00 (fifteen years ago) link
<3 <3 <3
― cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 18:03 (fifteen years ago) link
guess:
considering how alpha-male assholish most film sets are, film studios probably prefer to have another alpha-male type on set to "handle" the stars (especially the male ones) and it's believed that women couldn't do it. it's tough for even the best female directors to get work; if you're a female director and you have a couple of hits in a row, you'll be okay, but if you have a single flop you're in trouble. a male director can have five flops in a row and still get work. there's pretty much no excuse for someone like kathyrn bigelow to find it difficult to land projects considering the fact that she's one of the best directors in her genre (unless she's just someone who takes her time working on projects.)
― blair underwood: "man up" (omar little), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 18:03 (fifteen years ago) link
― cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, May 26, 2009 6:00 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Could be asked for 99% of gabbnebb's posts.
― ian, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 18:03 (fifteen years ago) link
and yeah as Abbott points out this is the YOUNGEST medium on the planet - its weird that older, more heavily institutionalized mediums with traditions of excluding women are somehow actually more open than the film industry
― Wrinkles, I'll See You On the Other Side (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 18:03 (fifteen years ago) link
gabbneb's one and only point is that he (purportedly) knows shit about stuff
No, no, I want his answer.
― cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Video games are a younger medium and shit's got less pussy than Melmac.
― cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 18:05 (fifteen years ago) link
― velko, Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:52 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark
surely you can't be serious
― bnw, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 18:05 (fifteen years ago) link
did you just make an alf joke
I rofld
― Wrinkles, I'll See You On the Other Side (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 18:06 (fifteen years ago) link
actually I was just wondering the other day, are there any female orchestra conductors?
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 18:06 (fifteen years ago) link
yes ALF eats cats get it?
― cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 18:06 (fifteen years ago) link
fair (and fairly easily) answered question - but in the case of this particular industry I wonder what it is about film/directing that makes sexist "old boys' club" networks more enduring than in, say (as already mentioned), music or photography or literature or whatever.
I really do think getting to a position to secure enough money and resources to make a feature film is one of the biggest obsctacles here, though how gender works in all that is kinda complicated. With the other three fields you mention, a person can work with much less money and/or by herself to create something.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 18:07 (fifteen years ago) link
btw I <3 you too abbott iirc
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 18:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Francis Coppola, Sidney Lumet, Linda Wachowski, Julia Schnabel, Tuomas
― ˈɒksnɑrd (jeff), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 18:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Criterion releasing an early Martha Coolidge film: https://www.criterion.com/films/33619-not-a-pretty-picture
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 18:29 (one week ago) link
That looks really interesting--amazed I've never heard of it. (Liked Valley Girl when it came out, also a rewatch years later.)
― clemenza, Wednesday, 15 May 2024 19:14 (one week ago) link