US Politics, June 2018: This is a total goat rodeo.

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B-but I'm sure Trump extracted a loyalty pledge from him! What is this world coming to when the living embodiment of chaos can no longer trust his underlings.

Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 14:44 (eight years ago)

can a legal expert tell me if it's good or not when all your lawyers abandon the case

frogbs, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 14:52 (eight years ago)

I think it's a good thing when they realize how watertight a case you have and they pass because they're so sick of winning.

Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 15:01 (eight years ago)

btw when we're discussing "alternate realities", here's a good one

https://www.thecut.com/2018/06/melania-trumps-disappearance-is-right-out-of-hitchcock.html

frogbs, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 15:05 (eight years ago)

Proposed by Senators Tim Kaine and Bob Corker, its radicalism approaches that of a constitutional amendment. Their new AUMF would subvert an article at the core of the Constitution, gutting a vital protection against tyranny devised by the Framers. It would authorize multiple existing wars without even debating them individually. It would empower Trump and his successors to unilaterally wage war in new countries, expand their ability to indefinitely detain prisoners without charges, and empower them to unilaterally kill individuals even inside the United States.

In opposition, the ACLU has declared, “It would be hard to overstate the depth and breadth of the dangers to the Constitution, civil liberties, and human rights that the Corker-Kaine AUMF would cause … The Corker-Kaine AUMF would cause colossal harm to the Constitution’s checks and balances, would jeopardize civil liberties and human rights at home and abroad, would lead to a broad expansion of war without meaningful oversight, and would represent a sharp break from adherence to international law, including the United Nations Charter.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/06/congress-may-declare-the-forever-war/562175/?utm_source=atlfb

Simon H., Wednesday, 13 June 2018 15:44 (eight years ago)

this would make Kaine a better veep for trump than Pence

perpetual war is as bipartisan as shit

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 15:48 (eight years ago)

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/robert-mueller-files-request-for-150-blank-subpoenas-in-paul-manafort-case

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 15:53 (eight years ago)

I was surprised Sanford had hung on this long tbh, after that whole stupid Argentina thing

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 15:56 (eight years ago)

TIP: Two Republican insiders just told me that GOP Rep Nunes, GOP Rep Rohrabacher and Sean Hannity are currently under criminal investigation by the Federal Gov’t.

— Scott Dworkin (@funder) June 13, 2018

frogbs, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 16:00 (eight years ago)

xposts i'm no legal pro, but cohen agreeing to cooperate with prosecutors seems likes a pretttttty big deal

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 16:02 (eight years ago)

p obvious what Nunes and Rohrabacher have been engaged in, not so sure about Hannity. must be related to the Cohen thing.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 16:03 (eight years ago)

Meh. Cohen accomplished exactly nothing for most of his clients; in that regard one could be forgiven for thinking he won't be of much help to the prosecutors either.

emotional support fungus (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 16:04 (eight years ago)

though I guess you might wanna take that with a grain of salt

frogbs, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 16:04 (eight years ago)

Meh. Cohen accomplished exactly nothing for most of his clients; in that regard one could be forgiven for thinking he won't be of much help to the prosecutors either.

of course, his clients couldn't threaten him with prison time for doing a bad job, so he might try a little harder for the prosecutors

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 16:05 (eight years ago)

Could you get Hannity on obstruction if he calls on witnesses to destroy their phones?

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 16:05 (eight years ago)

I don't think so

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 16:10 (eight years ago)

should i poll the AUMF story just to make sure "shrug" wins?

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 16:16 (eight years ago)

sadly, the only people in congress who seem to care about AUMFs are the people trying to destroy them

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 16:21 (eight years ago)

I would so have loved a Kaine primary fight.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 16:25 (eight years ago)

https://www.vox.com/2018/6/12/17455922/wisconsin-special-elections-results-june

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 16:41 (eight years ago)

Pimp wins GOP primary: https://www.yahoo.com/news/legal-pimp-defeats-nevada-lawmaker-070355548.html

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 16:50 (eight years ago)

Corker-Kaine needs to die a death ... here's Paul Ryan, Bernie Sanders, a FOX commentator, an ACLU guy, and several others all coming down on the same side of the AUMF question:

https://www.c-span.org/video/?446614-1/constitutional-experts-testify-war-powers-hearing

Brad C., Wednesday, 13 June 2018 17:13 (eight years ago)

by Paul Ryan I assume you mean Rand Paul lol

Simon H., Wednesday, 13 June 2018 17:20 (eight years ago)

Meantime

NEW: Per @KatyTurNBC, Michael Cohen has received word from federal prosecutors that they are preparing paperwork to arrest him.

— Caroline O. (@RVAwonk) June 13, 2018

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 17:45 (eight years ago)

lol yes we would not see Paul Ryan on that panel ... war powers stuff seems like Rand Paul's one good issue

Brad C., Wednesday, 13 June 2018 17:46 (eight years ago)

I was briefly very confused

Simon H., Wednesday, 13 June 2018 17:48 (eight years ago)

rand paul is piling up brush along the canada and mexico borders right now

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 18:34 (eight years ago)

brush = dead emigrants

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 18:41 (eight years ago)

The reason great dealmakers do not OPENLY celebrate a deal, especially one that is not complete, is that it shows weakness to the other side

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 25, 2013

Trump.........otm????

frogbs, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 19:09 (eight years ago)

good thing he hasn't been then

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 19:18 (eight years ago)

Please tell us more things that distinguish you from great dealmakers, Don.

Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 19:20 (eight years ago)

I was trying to figure out why word of Cohen's flipping/imminent arrest would be getting leaked to the press (probably by Cohen himself, cuz why would the attorney's office announce they're about to arrest someone?) and WaPo's Waldman has an explanation that makes a lot of sense:

we should consider one more possibility: that Cohen fed the story of his possible flip to the press in order to convince President Trump to pardon him.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:00 (eight years ago)

can you pardon someone before the full charges have been announced?

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:04 (eight years ago)

yes

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:05 (eight years ago)

Lemme tell you a little story 'bout a guy named Dick.

too gashly (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:05 (eight years ago)

this crew merits the most cynical interpretation always, and then try to imagine something more evil on top of that.

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:05 (eight years ago)

but only federal crimes, I think?

xp

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:05 (eight years ago)

yea I don't think there's anything Trump can do about Cohen right now

frogbs, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:06 (eight years ago)

well he could always have him assassinated

CARL MARKS PRINCIPAL INVESTING AND ADVISORY SERVICES (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:19 (eight years ago)

hillary would have known what to do

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:20 (eight years ago)

she would've locked herself up!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:21 (eight years ago)

Ingraham has turned on Pruitt. probably means something but she seems like a canary in the dumbass goldmine sometimes, so maybe more will join her

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:22 (eight years ago)

'probably means nothing', i meant

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:22 (eight years ago)

yea I don't think there's anything Trump can do about Cohen right now

as noted by YMP, Ford pardoned Nixon before he was charged with anything. it can be done. but only if Cohen's looking at federal charges - if there's state charges I don't think Trump can do anything about those. Correct me if I'm wrong, fine legal minds of ILX.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:23 (eight years ago)

Nope.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:25 (eight years ago)

my vague understanding is that mueller is well aware of this and is arranging state charges wherever possible?

mookieproof, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:30 (eight years ago)

^^^

sleeve, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:31 (eight years ago)

otm

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:32 (eight years ago)

Meantime

BREAKING: Republican Senator Inofe says EPA's Pruitt may need to leave his post. Inhofe represents Oklahoma, where Pruitt was state attorney general.

— Mike Dorning (@MikeDorning) June 13, 2018

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:35 (eight years ago)

lol

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:40 (eight years ago)


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