basically it's your small businesses that have a business model based on not being able to give their staff decent wages and conditions that can fuck off
― the Messi inside (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 18:13 (eight years ago)
this doesn't seem to have anything to do w small businesses as they really exist Seriously? I have heard the kinds of shit-heads I'm bitching about rant about the minimum wage many times. U really positing that this is some kind of straw man fiction?
― Dan I., Tuesday, 12 June 2018 18:16 (eight years ago)
the thing is that in general the small-business is lionized but in terms of workers welfare they're more likely, by virtue of their size, to be worse places to work than larger organizations in the following ways:
more likely to have lower wages, less likely to offer good benefits packages, less likely to be unionized, and less likely to have established procedures for dealing with workplace bullying and harassment (and in the U.S. at least small businesses are exempt from many labor code protections),
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 18:19 (eight years ago)
Also when small businesses are praised for being "job creators" it's key to remember they're also job killers.
Lots of restaurants (just to take one category) open, thrive, and close within the space of a year or two.
In one sense they created jobs, sure, but in another sense they destroyed as many as they created.
― emotional support fungus (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 18:27 (eight years ago)
doesn’t necessarily make small business owners worse people. that is a failure of government
NB I’m sure there’s some survey showing SBOs are more likely to be republican or whatever in case fine
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 12 June 2018 18:28 (eight years ago)
They are the wealth-makers, they are the dreamers of dreams
― the Messi inside (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 18:29 (eight years ago)
my controversial opinion that I actually believe is that if you’re going to defend small business owners from a #notall angle, you should be cool with people doing the same for white people, men, etc
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 12 June 2018 18:30 (eight years ago)
I kind of like that people are notalling small business owners here. But it's also the part of my day (after lunch) I just give up all hope for humanity.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 18:45 (eight years ago)
you should be cool with #notall anyway
― laurel or hardyhearin (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:04 (eight years ago)
I feel like I'm in crazy town, population y'all. Uh, go Big Corporate, I guess?
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:06 (eight years ago)
#notalllasagnas
― Yerac, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:06 (eight years ago)
#notallnaps
― you bet, nancy (map), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:08 (eight years ago)
Like, when you're talking about the abuses and infractions shitty small business owners get away with, I think you're just referring to shitty business owners period.
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:10 (eight years ago)
sbop biddip bdop sbop biddy bop bop sbop biddip bdop bop boooo
― laurel or hardyhearin (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:11 (eight years ago)
#notallpetitbourgeoise
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:25 (eight years ago)
... are Nazis but...
― We can be herpes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:55 (eight years ago)
if you’re going to defend small business owners from a #notall angle, you should be cool with people doing the same for white people, men, etc
that is fine. i am sick of #notall being used to shut down discussion. if nuance is a bad thing and we should only aspire to generalizations then communication is only going to break down further and further into meaninglessness.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 20:17 (eight years ago)
i'm all for it
― brimstead, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 20:28 (eight years ago)
breaking down into meaninglessness
♫ no more sleepy dreaming ♫
― Dan I., Tuesday, 12 June 2018 20:41 (eight years ago)
the reaction to #notallmen isn't about literally it being all men
― flopson, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 20:42 (eight years ago)
I know what you're saying, but in practice it is close. don't @ me
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 12 June 2018 21:35 (eight years ago)
nah
― flopson, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 21:36 (eight years ago)
rude I said not to @ me
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 12 June 2018 21:37 (eight years ago)
FlopSong69 | @flopson 1m - .@k3vin__k stfu bitch↩ ♻ ♡
― flopson, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 21:41 (eight years ago)
my controp (if it even is) is that vancouver has become insanely progressive gone mad. No gas stations (maybe one), roads closed everywhere in my neighbourhood except for cyclists. It's a socialist nightmare.
― Slippage (Ross), Thursday, 14 June 2018 03:17 (eight years ago)
Respect ur right to hold challops but that honestly sounds rad
― Dan I., Thursday, 14 June 2018 04:08 (eight years ago)
Lol yeah I need to take it easy man
― sunburst N snowblind (Ross), Thursday, 14 June 2018 04:16 (eight years ago)
Surely the amount of gas stations is market driven rather than part of a municipal program
― i am updating my User Agreement and Privacy Policy (rip van wanko), Thursday, 14 June 2018 04:29 (eight years ago)
There's at least 4 gas stations within about a dozen blocks of my place here in Vancouver.
― everything, Thursday, 14 June 2018 04:38 (eight years ago)
Actually more like 7 now I think about it.
― everything, Thursday, 14 June 2018 04:39 (eight years ago)
can we rewind the track....eesh, dunno, i'm from the country, probably just trash iirc.
― sunburst N snowblind (Ross), Thursday, 14 June 2018 04:41 (eight years ago)
My province just elected Doug Ford's PCs to government. I'm not exactly sympathizing.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 14 June 2018 14:13 (eight years ago)
lol yeah I was already seriously pondering a move to Vancouver
― Simon H., Thursday, 14 June 2018 14:14 (eight years ago)
rent/renovictions are fairly bad here tho
― sunburst N snowblind (Ross), Thursday, 14 June 2018 14:15 (eight years ago)
not sure how they are over there.
was in Vancouver in Decemeber and saw plenty of gas stations
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Thursday, 14 June 2018 14:24 (eight years ago)
i hate when they make granville pedestrian street fucking up all the bus routes
― flopson, Thursday, 14 June 2018 20:00 (eight years ago)
Simon if you move out here, drinks on me
― sunburst N snowblind (Ross), Thursday, 14 June 2018 23:39 (eight years ago)
Vancouver rents are pricey but affordable/better compared to la
― F# A# (∞), Thursday, 14 June 2018 23:44 (eight years ago)
Isn’t Vancouver like the most expensive city in North America right now
― valorous wokelord (silby), Thursday, 14 June 2018 23:44 (eight years ago)
Big fat no
― F# A# (∞), Thursday, 14 June 2018 23:45 (eight years ago)
I rent in LA right now and looking for a place in Vancouver so ya
― F# A# (∞), Thursday, 14 June 2018 23:47 (eight years ago)
rent is still way cheaper than bay area
― flopson, Thursday, 14 June 2018 23:55 (eight years ago)
comparable to toronto
Way cheaper than the desirable American coastal cities but bad for household earnings vs average rent sort of thing.
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 15 June 2018 01:29 (eight years ago)
There's also plenty gas stations (other than on the downtown peninsula where there are none)
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 15 June 2018 01:32 (eight years ago)
Price of single family homes pretty crazy tho
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 15 June 2018 01:33 (eight years ago)
The Boston rents I posted on the Cdn politics thread are way worse than Vancouver.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 15 June 2018 02:02 (eight years ago)
Especially since you have to live in Boston.
― grawlix (unperson), Friday, 15 June 2018 02:02 (eight years ago)