i love a good few of these but come on it's phantom thread
― devvvine, Saturday, 9 June 2018 09:16 (six years ago) link
i also read inherent vice before watching the movie but i’m confused about how the movie supposedly suffered in comparison. other than some altered plot points they both have this wonderful, hallucinatory progression, gliding through ever deepening confusions. movie has the added bonus of a great soundtrack and excellent performances
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Saturday, 9 June 2018 11:09 (six years ago) link
it’s my vote here but i still haven’t seen phantom thread
I mean, film has its limitations and I can understand that, but Pynchon Hallucinatory and IV-The-Movie Hallucinatory are continents/sunken cities apart.
― circa1916, Saturday, 9 June 2018 11:31 (six years ago) link
Sad to see so few people repping for Hard Eight. It's, y'know, a '90s indie film but much more ambitious than most of that crop (although I do have a soft spot for even lesser '90s indie films). It's all about the performances imo. Phillip Baker Hall and John C. Reilly are great, as is Samuel L. Jackson in a smaller role. It would be another director's best film.
Clearly, I need to rewatch The Master. I thought it was fine the one time I saw it but I'm not sure I was in the best headspace to appreciate it.
― This Bobo Isn't Going to Honk Itself (Old Lunch), Saturday, 9 June 2018 11:36 (six years ago) link
Hard Eight was for a long time his best film.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 9 June 2018 11:40 (six years ago) link
Pynchon Hallucinatory and IV-The-Movie Hallucinatory are continents/sunken cities apart.
― circa1916, Saturday, June 9, 2018 4:31 AM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i don’t think this is true about that particular book!
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Saturday, 9 June 2018 11:42 (six years ago) link
which i love, don’t get me wrong
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Saturday, 9 June 2018 11:43 (six years ago) link
i really loved The Master. so many great performances and wonderful moments in that. that one scene with "Get Thee Behind Me Satan" playing. the other scene where Philip Seymour Hoffman is commanding a room full of singers and it slows pans over to reveal everyone is naked is awesome and unexpected.
i admit i haven't seen most of these. Punch Drunk Love was nice but it's been at least 15 years. TWBB was a great film but i've never wanted to go back and rewatch it.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 9 June 2018 13:58 (six years ago) link
i also read inherent vice before watching the movie but i’m confused about how the movie supposedly suffered in comparison
― valorous wokelord (silby), Saturday, 9 June 2018 14:55 (six years ago) link
flappy's long post otm
i like the frogs in magnolia too but can't stand the wall-to-wall score or all the tv "arcs" and there's way more of those than there is of the frogs
LOVED punch-drunk love as a high schooler and don't mind its "excusing" sandler's behavior which i don't know that it does, but yes emily watson is only a surreal device and it is p boring to me now to watch a movie about a guy and his surreal device
there will be blood has that terrific score and a couple of good long scenes with a lot of tension and scenery, but its big moments (thinking of camera assuming role of demonic presence in baptism scene) aren't rly any less showy or mannered than boogie nights doing i am cuba, and in the end the movie is worse kubrick cosplay than BN is altman
tho the back half of BN isn't rly altman right? it's scorsese, and alfred molina setpiece aside i find it a drag. i like the movie and actually think goodfellas is like hugely overrated and have never loved it in the endless-rewatch hangout way i think it works for many, but come on boogie nights is not better than goodfellas. ultimate darkness and danger much better-integrated into + present alongside exhilarating romp section in the latter, for one. also it comes up with its own camera moves
the master was rly great
haven't seen phantom thread yet.
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 9 June 2018 23:16 (six years ago) link
voted for p thread, a perfect movie to me
― flopson, Saturday, 9 June 2018 23:28 (six years ago) link
cool
― flopson, Saturday, 9 June 2018 23:29 (six years ago) link
lol
― Dan S, Saturday, 9 June 2018 23:32 (six years ago) link
I think phantom thread may be my choice too, but now I want to go back and watch boogie nights, magnolia, and punch drunk love again
― Dan S, Saturday, 9 June 2018 23:34 (six years ago) link
LOVED punch-drunk love as a high schooler and don't mind its "excusing" sandler's behavior which i don't know that it does, but yes emily watson is only a surreal device and it is p boring to me now to watch a movie about a guy and his surreal device.
― flappy bird, Saturday, 9 June 2018 23:42 (six years ago) link
pudding scam in punch drunk love is best scam since penny round off scam in superman iii, that movie should be called pudding drunk love airline miles
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 11 June 2018 17:43 (six years ago) link
that movie should be called pudding drunk love airline miles
― Philip Nunez, Monday, June 11, 2018 10:43 AM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lmao
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Monday, 11 June 2018 17:54 (six years ago) link
ok, Hard Eight: definitely "early work" and some moments I thought were truly maladroit but John C. Reilly's character is a pretty classic PTA loser. "I know three kinds of karate!"
― valorous wokelord (silby), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 05:03 (six years ago) link
Reilly is pretty reliably one of the best elements of any film he's in, I find.
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 10:17 (six years ago) link
Phantom Thread is the first PTA film I've really liked. The Master and There Will Be Blood were OK. Still can't stand Magnolia. He still doesn't know how to end a movie.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 11:06 (six years ago) link
He should always end them with a dong shot imo.
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 11:57 (six years ago) link
i like pretty much all these movies (i didn't like magnolia much but i only saw it when it first came out and i wasn't sure what to expect and i'm betting i'd like it more if i rewatched it). there will be blood, the master, and phantom thread are the best. voted for the master because the subject matter is more intrinsically interesting to me.
― na (NA), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 16:00 (six years ago) link
yeah, this guy is really a treasure. Philip Seymour Hoffman level imo.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 16:02 (six years ago) link
The Master was great but this is still TWBB for me, crackpot epic with killer score.
― dinnerboat, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 16:09 (six years ago) link
TWBB might get my vote, i found it to be really compelling. Though I should rescreen it sometime to see how it holds up.
though I do really like Boogie Nights (another contender for my vote) it's not better than Goodfellas, not even close. Goodfellas is both darker and a lot funnier, plus BN doesn't feel like anything other than PTA transposing the Goodfellas aesthetic and structure to a new setting and different type of insular underworld, however unlike Scorsese it's one that he doesn't seem to particularly understand. And maybe he didn't care to, and he wasn't interested in the darker elements beyond bits of more Tarantino-style splatter violence. It gets by on the fact that it's extremely well-made and everyone in the film is pretty great and mostly likable.
― omar little, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 16:20 (six years ago) link
I still can't get past the vacuum at the center of TWBB, and when I look past the vacuum I see Paul Dano.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 16:26 (six years ago) link
And the Dano gazes back at you.
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 16:35 (six years ago) link
It just occurred to me every one of his movies is about a scam or someone scamming another. I used to think his movies were about how he didn’t have a good relationship with his father but now I see it’s about scams.Maybe phantom thread will be his last movie; it’s the one that seems most at peace with the scam.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 23:07 (six years ago) link
Boogie nights then hard eight.
― Slippage (Ross), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 23:34 (six years ago) link
I didn't know The Phantom Thread was so well received here
― i am updating my User Agreement and Privacy Policy (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 23:42 (six years ago) link
And maybe he didn't care to, and he wasn't interested in the darker elements
I think that's it, and a major part of what makes Boogie Nights so great. Star 80, Hardcore, and other films had already gone that route--successfully and unsuccessfully--and at a certain point, that approach is just turgid. Boogie Nights completely turns all of that on its head. Other than the Colonel and Little Bill, no one is punished. I love that about the film; someone else might find it willfully naive and destructive, and that's valid.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 23:50 (six years ago) link
Lil Bill's wife and her last dude sure get punished.
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 23:57 (six years ago) link
Right--and the people at the donut shop, and a few other peripheral characters. I was thinking more of the principals.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 00:07 (six years ago) link
I’m not complaining exactly, Boogie Nights is the only structure and style Goodfellas rip-off that works on its own terms more or less.
― omar little, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 01:15 (six years ago) link
Just watched Boogie Nights and I sure don’t know what to make of it but the ensemble is great.
― valorous wokelord (silby), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 04:05 (six years ago) link
Starting to suspect I will vote for The Master
― valorous wokelord (silby), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 04:09 (six years ago) link
also realized that all of his movies are 'epics' except Punch Drunk Love and Phantom Thread (and Hard Eight yea?)
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 04:46 (six years ago) link
Voting on the basis of replay value and sentimental feelings here.
Boogie nights has a stellar soundtrack N heather graham and Julianne Moore, two class actresses. Perfectly captures the drug use N dead end of the porn industry and there’s a reason it’s never been bettered today. It was otm
Hard eight is a minor classic and to me that’s better than epics any day - don’t imagine I’ll care to watch magnolia or there will be blood any timeSoon. Inherent vice was amazing but I would rather go back to a classic comfort movie like boogIe,
I’m no movIe critic, diss me as you feel
― Slippage (Ross), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 05:07 (six years ago) link
I don’t see boogie as an epic unless you think long movies are default epic.
― Slippage (Ross), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 05:08 (six years ago) link
it's def an epic, ensemble cast + decade long span + altman-esque mosaic. fwiw i think Nashville is an epic too, and imo Boogie Nights is more similar to Nashville than Goodfellas.
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 05:25 (six years ago) link
I've seen them all and vote Phantom Thread. maybe just recency bias tho, haven't rewatched any of the other ones in a long time.
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 05:47 (six years ago) link
boogie nights insistent use of "you got the touch" makes me wonder how high a paul thomas anderson directed Transformers movie would have rated.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 17:31 (six years ago) link
https://media.giphy.com/media/fdo9pw26q2euQ/giphy.gif
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 17:34 (six years ago) link
i guess there's a megatron/starscream dynamic between philip seymour hoffman and joaquin phoenix
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 17:35 (six years ago) link
― flappy bird, Tuesday, June 12, 2018 9:46 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
and inherent vice
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 17:38 (six years ago) link
which is what i ended up voting for
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 17:39 (six years ago) link
all eight of his movies except for half
― omar little, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 17:42 (six years ago) link