US Politics, June 2018: This is a total goat rodeo.

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(and obviously I learned about it in school, but in general, a lot of history is taught in schools as if everyone was on the "right side of history" and objections were scattered and inconsequential)

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 16:48 (eight years ago)

My understanding, katherine, based on Woodward-Bernstein's accounts and Mary McCarthy's invaluable little book is that the case was off the radar until well past the 1972 election, nearly a year and a half after the break-in occurred.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 16:57 (eight years ago)

since he won a big landslide when the story was barely 4 months old, it took awhile to turn the 'Nixon Democrats.' But nearly everyone who voted for McGovern hated him, I think it's fair to say. Middle-aged Dems had hated him since they were teenagers.

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 17:00 (eight years ago)

The podcast makes the point and (plays clip) of McGovern ineffectiveky trying to make hay out of it during the election (I had previously assumed it never came up) but again was really early.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 17:07 (eight years ago)

There's also just so much shit going on under the surface that no one knows about for sometimes decades. Was just this morning reading about Nixon employing Anna Chennault to sabotage the Vietnam peace talks prior to the '68 election. Can't wait to see what comes oozing out of our current era 20-30 years after the fact.

On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 17:18 (eight years ago)

in 2018 conservatives would think Trump goons doing Watergate is "Cool"

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 17:23 (eight years ago)

guy's a maverick. plays by his own rules. any means necessary to keep illigetimate dems out of office and save our constityoooshun

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 17:24 (eight years ago)

hey just a little b & e to own the libs

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 17:25 (eight years ago)

Was just this morning reading about Nixon employing Anna Chennault to sabotage the Vietnam peace talks prior to the '68 election

That was a big o_O moment in the Burns doc.

Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 17:28 (eight years ago)

Also worth noting that he was, at the same time, saying that he wouldn't dream of making any public statement that might endanger the possibility of a resolution. Such pure and undiluted sociopathy.

On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 17:34 (eight years ago)

The real crime is all the norms he violated in the process.

Simon H., Tuesday, 5 June 2018 17:52 (eight years ago)

Norm Crosby, Norm McDonald, etc.

nickn, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 18:33 (eight years ago)

Was wondering why everything seemed so quiet lately. Then I realized this thread was created.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 18:34 (eight years ago)

waiting for prez tweet on the end of the Miss America swimsuit competition

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 18:34 (eight years ago)

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/390784-mcconnell-cancels-senates-august-recess

“Due to the historic obstruction by Senate Democrats of the president’s nominees, and the goal of passing appropriations bills prior to the end of the fiscal year, the August recess has been canceled," McConnell said in a statement.

Turtle gonna Turtle

Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 18:43 (eight years ago)

very canny of him to say "historic" rather than "unprecedented". hell, everything the Senate does goes into the historic record, so when they pass a resolution announcing that ice cream tastes good, it is "historic".

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 18:46 (eight years ago)

um

Letter from @LindseyGrahamSC to Dep AG Rosenstein:
1) Are you a witness in Mueller’s Investigation?
2) If not, why not?
3) If so, should you recuse yourself? pic.twitter.com/ni3rvov4dG

— Frank Thorp V (@frankthorp) June 5, 2018

Stanley Therapy (stevie), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 18:50 (eight years ago)

1) Are you a member of the Republican party?
2) If so, are you currently on fire?
3) If not, should you immolate yourself?

On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 18:55 (eight years ago)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9e/ThingsThatMakeYouGoHmmmC%2BC.jpg/220px-ThingsThatMakeYouGoHmmmC%2BC.jpg

On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 18:56 (eight years ago)

I truly don't understand what Graham is trying to accomplish there, or why.

He is known to have no Trumpophilia. He's not even up for reelection this time; even if he's trying to avoid a challenge from the right no one will remember this stunt in 2020.

Is the DOJ's internal integrity his "ethics in gaming journalism"?

emotional support vegetable (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 19:02 (eight years ago)

First, "if not, why not" is a question for Mueller to answer, not Rosenstein.

Next, the big difference between Sessions and Rosenstein is that Sessions was a member of the campaign who met with Russian officials numerous times during the period under investigation and who could conceivably become a subject of the investigation, while Rosenstein was a witness to various words and actions during events of interest to the investigators, but only incidentally, just as anyone might witness a car accident without having any connection to the drivers of the vehicles, and the police might take a statement from them without their being under suspicion.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 19:04 (eight years ago)

Is the idea to tar everything so that supposedly there is no such thing as an objective witness. Try to make sure taht anybody who can be thought to have seen anything is enmired in a way that they would incriminate themselves,?

Stevolende, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 19:07 (eight years ago)

we are all potential witnesses in the Mueller investigation

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 19:09 (eight years ago)

I've seen some things.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 19:11 (eight years ago)

maybe Graham thinks he can convince Trump to invade North Korea like he keeps saying he wants him to do if he has his back on this.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 19:12 (eight years ago)

Most likely some hotshot on Graham's staff dreamed up this stunt and Lindsey thought it was clever enough to gain some attention and get him talked about approvingly by FOX News, conservative radio talk hosts, and retirees in feed caps. So, he had the letter written, read it, and signed his name to it.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 19:18 (eight years ago)

thanks Aimless - not least for "retirees in feed caps."

emotional support vegetable (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 19:42 (eight years ago)

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-asks-appeals-court-to-restore-his-power-to-block-critics-on-twitter

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 19:42 (eight years ago)

uses his time and leverage wisely, this guy

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 19:44 (eight years ago)

His butt, it hurts.

On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 19:54 (eight years ago)

The Washington Post reports:

Three months after Scott Pruitt was sworn in as head of the Environmental Protection Agency, his executive scheduler emailed Dan Cathy, chairman and president of the fast food company Chick-fil-A, with an unusual request: Would Cathy meet with Pruitt to discuss “a potential business opportunity”?

A call was arranged, then canceled, and Pruitt eventually spoke with someone from the company’s legal department. Only then did he reveal the “opportunity” on his mind was a job for his wife, Marlyn. “The subject of that phone call was an expression of interest in his wife becoming a Chick-fil-A franchisee,” company representative Carrie Kurlander told The Washington Post via email.

Marlyn Pruitt never opened a restaurant. “Administrator Pruitt’s wife started, but did not complete, the Chick-fil-A franchisee application,” Kurlander said. But the revelation that Pruitt used his official position and EPA staff to try to line up work for his wife appears to open a new chapter in the ongoing saga of his questionable spending and management decisions, which so far have spawned a dozen federal probes.

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 19:55 (eight years ago)

Pruitt is like the guy who always tries to talk the cashier into letting him use her employee discount.

President Keyes, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 19:57 (eight years ago)

If you keep having to say it...

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/05/sarah-huckabee-sanders-im-an-honest-person-625914

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 20:06 (eight years ago)

lmao "America hour" at the White House lasted all of 7 minutes

frogbs, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 20:09 (eight years ago)

Next, the big difference between Sessions and Rosenstein is that Sessions was a member of the campaign who met with Russian officials numerous times during the period under investigation and who could conceivably become a subject of the investigation, while Rosenstein was a witness to various words and actions during events of interest to the investigators, but only incidentally, just as anyone might witness a car accident without having any connection to the drivers of the vehicles, and the police might take a statement from them without their being under suspicion.

― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, June 5, 2018 7:04 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

rosenstein is a witness, imo. he wrote that bullshit ass letter blaming comey's handling of hillary's case as pretext to fire him.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 20:09 (eight years ago)

Trump unable to remember words to "God Bless America" at replacement event he commissioned to prove his patriotism: https://t.co/LrMPaCEnen pic.twitter.com/oCcWMX9g39

— Deadspin (@Deadspin) June 5, 2018

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 20:20 (eight years ago)

Who gives a swift shit

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 20:26 (eight years ago)

(no shade carne)

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 20:26 (eight years ago)

lol no doubt

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 20:29 (eight years ago)

trump has tony clifton mannerisms all through that god bless america video

Stanley Therapy (stevie), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 20:38 (eight years ago)

As was said on Twitter, surely he's the chief negotiator.

Report: Dennis Rodman is going to Singapore for the summit https://t.co/dSOO0x9liV

— Jesse Rodriguez (@JesseRodriguez) June 5, 2018

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 20:39 (eight years ago)

Donald Trump forgetting the words to "God Bless America" during the 7-minute "America Hour" that he had to schedule because an entire football team snubbed him seems like a scene that's going to be played in many future documentaries about the fall of the USA

frogbs, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 20:40 (eight years ago)

looks like this is gonna happen
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/05/filemon-vela-vicente-gonzalez-democrats-daca-discharge-624869

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 20:49 (eight years ago)

xp It's cheap irony, good for a momentary amusement. Now, if he'd forgotten to wear his American flag lapel pin, I'm sure conservatives everywhere would be blasting him for his lack of patriotism, but this is entirely different.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 20:51 (eight years ago)

lmao "America hour" at the White House lasted all of 7 minutes


time is meaningless here in our post apocalyptic shadowscape

and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 21:09 (eight years ago)

apparently there's a new round of deficit hype going on

as a general rule if you hear someone talking about politics and, within 5 mins, it’s not clear what their ideology is they’re selling you one or all of 3 things, all of which are things only billionaires want:

—gutting social security
—gutting Medicare
—charter schools

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) June 5, 2018

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 21:27 (eight years ago)

From four years back, of course.

Dennis Rodman was either drunk or on drugs (delusional) when he said I wanted to go to North Korea with him. Glad I fired him on Apprentice!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 8, 2014

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 21:28 (eight years ago)

lmao everything that's going to happen from now until the end of his presidency is buried somewhere in his tweets from 2010 to 2014

frogbs, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 21:49 (eight years ago)

That McCain mocker from a few weeks back has been 86d

Kelly Sadler is out https://t.co/Aeq4a2XERK

— Lachlan Markay (@lachlan) June 5, 2018

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 21:49 (eight years ago)

The sad, beautiful young lives lost because of the partisan WITCH HU... oh, wait

emotional support vegetable (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 21:56 (eight years ago)


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