WestWorld: ...Where nothing can possibly go worng!

after the reveal that there's a virtual westworld that ford's hiding out in, I spent a week wandering around mumbling "how many westworlds deep are we right now, anyway?"

I'd be actually angry if they show that the events we've seen are in a virtual westworld and we've only had a couple real world scenes, but again, one of the Nolans

RIP MIB, a mean guy who almost learned something.

we sure he's dead? i'm thinking there's gonna be a daughter ex machina and he'll pull through

there's gonna be a scene of her putting on his hat, lol

yeah i don't think he's dead, last shot of him he was alive (barely).

also I don't know what is happening on this show any more.

the Bernard time jumps are purposefully obtuse, and now they're teasing us with them in an attempt to get the audience to question how many Bernards there are, imo

Never mind, ex-wife! Craziness.

Buckets o' Bernards

xp oh wow she's the actress that married Musk twice! wild stuff

I'd be actually angry if they show that the events we've seen are in a virtual westworld and we've only had a couple real world scenes, but again, one of the Nolans

would this explain why in season 1 hosts shooting guests somehow did nothing? or has that been explained at some point and I just missed it? for the first half of season 1 I totally thought westworld was supposed to be a virtual world because of that.

the guns aren't authentic guns and have some sort of safety mode when fired at real people. when ford's new narrative kicked in at the party, he somehow disabled the safeties. they only briefly mentioned it, kind of glad it didn't become a major plot point.

Yeah it seemed to me like there's some vague technology where the guns still gave humans knock-back but didn't hurt them? Then somehow that safeguard was reverted and the guns behaved like normal. The mechanics of such a thing have not been addressed and it's really tough to rationalize but it's not really worth getting hung up on.

wasn't that addressed again with the william daughter shooting the dude to prove he's real thing in colonial india world?

"if you're hostin' me, you won't remember. if you're real, it's gonna hurt but be a real turn-on for both of us."

wasn't that addressed again with the william daughter shooting the dude to prove he's real thing in colonial india world?

― andrew m., Thursday, June 7, 2018 11:42 AM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah but not how it works? Again it seems pointless and comic-book-guyish to harp on that but when you think about it for a minute it's kind of hard to wrap my head around it...

They are real bullets that instantly "know" whether they're hitting a human or not? But they can disable this setting and becomes regular bullets apparently? Sure I guess...

But anyway I don't want to get wrapped up in that. Not really extremely useful for the plot unless there was a way to turn on that "setting" again. Or did I miss it being explained when the switch happened initially?

I feel like my enjoyment of this show is facilitated by letting it wash over me when it's on and letting it wash away when it isn't. I'm not sure that enjoyment would hold up if I got stuck in a Lost-esque theoretical k-hole.

Well, I only really care to know in case like I said it CAN affect the plot (bullets get re-nerfed maybe?). Otherwise I agree.

wouldn't matter too much now that most of Dolores's posse have real, non-WW guns that the paramilitary types brought in

true

I guess I was just imagining a cliche scene where someone goes to execute the now injured and defenseless MIB, he accepts his fate... BAM!

....wha? I'm still alive? It's been switched back! etc etc

I feel like the fly buzzing on Zach McClarnon's hand is a nice callback to Once Upon A Time In The West

I reserve the right to change my mind later but this weeks episode is worth every stupid thing this show has put us through. so good. I love Zach McClarnon anyway but big props to HBO & co for making this episode so he could just crush everything, everything

I'm going to go smoke and drink and cry and etc.

the admins thinking the new patch would take on a host that hadn't been patched for over a decade smdh

Pretty expansive for a bottle episode imho. When I saw Hopkins’ name in the opening credits I didn’t know what to expect.

yeah this week's episode was easily the show's best

^ ghost nation stan

it hasn't changed my underlying opinion of the show but yeah this one was good!

though an unfortunate discovery of the past two eps is that tessa thompson is a bad actress.

that was discovered in season 1 tbh

but yeah this was the first ep of westworld i've actually enjoyed. it's the kind of thing that L O S T used to do really well and imo had a lot more to do with the success of that show than the internet sleuth stuff

yeah this show is a mix of world-class actors and people who come across like they're in a made-for-tv action movie. I think tessa, shannon woodward and (especially) ambigiously accented QA woman are all terrible, but it's probably not a coincidence that all the non-robots come across terribly, there's way more depth to being robot achieving sentience than there is to being the human fighting robot-uprising. they give them pretty crap dialogue too.

I can't believe the show that made the last episode is the same show that two episodes ago had elsie saying '"we're going to need some more firepower"

boo hiss you're wrong

I can't believe the show that made the last episode is the same show that two episodes ago had elsie saying '"we're going to need some more firepower"

― iatee, Wednesday, June 13, 2018 11:12 AM (thirty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh! This is one of those ilx posts that I feel is trying to bully me into believing that line is obviously bad. But I'm going to be brave this time an ask outright: what is so obviously bad about "we're going to need some more firepower" without the context of something like say particularly cheesy delivery? Is it the word "firepower"? I doesn't seem wrong for her to communicate to Bernard that she wants to restock or upgrade the gun she is carrying (see I'm already awkwardly avoiding the word firepower myself because I'm nervous it is unacceptable...).

ride or die for elsie imo

Oh! This is one of those ilx posts that I feel is trying to bully me into believing that line is obviously bad. But I'm going to be brave this time an ask outright: what is so obviously bad about "we're going to need some more firepower" without the context of something like say particularly cheesy delivery? Is it the word "firepower"? I doesn't seem wrong for her to communicate to Bernard that she wants to restock or upgrade the gun she is carrying (see I'm already awkwardly avoiding the word firepower myself because I'm nervous it is unacceptable...).

good guys saying some variant of 'we need bigger guns' is totally an action movie cliche.

I don't think elsie adds anything to the show, her entire character could just exist.

Fair enough. I'm more offended by the action movie cliche of useless disposable security/"cavalry" stormtroopers that are there to just pathetically die at the hands of hosts no matter what. There's no tension during their scenes because as soon as you see them you know they'll find a way to die ASAP.

Yeah, the security guys "hup hup hup"ing around is the worst part of this show. wtf was with the light-up vests that tell them when someone is sneaking up on them? It's not just that the scenes are kind of narratively pointless like Evan says, but they're also shot just like 80's low-budget scifi action movies, complete with all the cliches. You see the goon shooting his gun from an elevated catwalk and you know he's going to be clutching his chest and diving over that railing any second.

They're too reminiscent of the kinds of movies that Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon was parodying, basically!

tessa thompson is a bad actress.

totally wrong, but she's a weird fit for this role. seems like her role should probably be played by an older actress.

anyway, this is by far the best episode in the history of the show, and definitely the only one that ever made me feel anything beyond "this is cool"

"this" meaning last week's McLarnon showcase, which I just watched

Whelp

back to your regularly scheduled crap westworld

Both of those deaths were so stupid. Like, get a fucking move on, there’s no suspense here, take the shot (and then the obvious, even dumber reaction shot, for bonus eyeroll)

I’m rooting for an episode that’s just Elsie & Charlotte timelines. That’s where I’m at.

Caught up on the last couple of weeks last night. Ghost Nation ep is one of the best television episodes I've seen in a while. At least up until the point when I realized that a piano arrangement of 'Heart-Shaped Box' was playing on the soundtrack, which ripped me right out of the moment. WTF @ the musical choices this season.

I assume the climax of the season finale will be set to a children's choir singing 'Lightning Crashes'.

player piano doing "wake me up when september ends"

Jug band version of 'All-Star'.

they've always had the player piano playing things like this. Black Hole Sun, some radiohead song.

yes, and now we’re making fun of it

Here we go

Whew