gah fuck me why am I even trying to make sense of this soup (goes back in shell of booze-soaked denial)
― and she could see an earmuff factory (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 28 May 2018 00:03 (six years ago) link
that's not even cohesive nonsense. if i were a smart person who wanted to blame obama i still couldn't do anything with that. obama didn't act on the fbi's' assertions of russian pro-trump shenanigans, allegations which would damage the trump campaign if made public because he thought if he did it would hurt hillary's chances of a win which he assumed was the likely outcome anyway, is what trump is saying?
or is he saying the apple cart is the politically motivated fbi witch hunt and obama didn't want to bring it to light by taking any action which would draw attention to it, except he did, so blame obama for not doing anything to protect the country from foreign intervention in the american political process, which was a deep state fbi fabrication to discredit trump, and which obama kept silent about, but he didn't so blame obama for his cowardice in the face of foreign aggression which totally never happened and the obama regime and the deep state fabricated to discredit trump but never did anything about?
either way, this looks pretty bad for obama.
― slugbuggy, Monday, 28 May 2018 05:53 (six years ago) link
no wait. he means obama knew it was fake news, and didn't want to expose the fbi, who was colluding with obama because of the spy, who was implanted into the trump campaign to generate fake news that the obama administration would publicize to damage trump, so therefore if obama did anything about the fake russia scandal it generated it would expose the fake russia scandal which obama orchestrated and thereby upset the cart which had fake apples.
― slugbuggy, Monday, 28 May 2018 07:04 (six years ago) link
And then they went home in taters.
― startled macropod (MatthewK), Monday, 28 May 2018 07:27 (six years ago) link
obama, in collusion with the fbi, created a fake russia-trump scandal to bring trump down but he totally ignored it to let hillary win, is how i eventually parse that, given what else he's said and factoring in schrodinger's cat, meaning it's obama's fault if the russia stuff is fake and it's his fault if the russia stuff is real, because if it's fake, worse than watergate but if it's real, weak on russia, who trump has totally been manly against.
― slugbuggy, Monday, 28 May 2018 07:38 (six years ago) link
the dog ate his homework
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 28 May 2018 08:03 (six years ago) link
john schindler is just jealous of mr. trump's success
https://observer.com/2018/05/what-did-the-fbi-do-in-2016-about-russian-connections-to-donald-trump/
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 28 May 2018 15:29 (six years ago) link
....Paul Manafort came into the campaign very late and was with us for a short period of time (he represented Ronald Reagan, Bob Dole & many others over the years), but we should have been told that Comey and the boys were doing a number on him, and he wouldn’t have been hired!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 3, 2018
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 3 June 2018 23:26 (six years ago) link
cough
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2017/10/a_timeline_of_paul_manafort_s_relationship_with_the_trump_world.html
― maura, Monday, 4 June 2018 13:10 (six years ago) link
when's the vice writer he dated going to release her tell-all
The special counsel’s filing to a Washington DC’s district court yesterday included Manafort’s messages, described as “an effort to secure materially false testimony.” Manafort messaged people from The Hapsburg Group, a firm he worked with and funded to lobby for Ukraine’s interests in the United States. According to the filing, he was trying to convince them to lie to investigators about the group’s activities.WhatsApp has a setting that automatically backs up messages to iCloud. If enabled, this would render the app’s famous end-to-end encryption useless in terms of hiding from law enforcement equipped with a search warrant. The US government routinely requests information from internet companies through warrants and subpoenas.
WhatsApp has a setting that automatically backs up messages to iCloud. If enabled, this would render the app’s famous end-to-end encryption useless in terms of hiding from law enforcement equipped with a search warrant. The US government routinely requests information from internet companies through warrants and subpoenas.
https://qz.com/1297543/paul-manafort-tried-to-hide-from-the-feds-using-encrypted-whatsapp-but-he-forgot-about-icloud/
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 04:24 (six years ago) link
Pretty crazy story. Worth noting that Wheeler began very skeptical of this whole “Russiagate” thing.
https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/07/03/putting-a-face-mine-to-the-risks-posed-by-gop-games-on-mueller-investigation/
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 16:11 (six years ago) link
I still don't get the thrust of that post? This guy approached her with info, turned out to be correct and she offered it to the feds? She's kind of burning him now but not clear as to why and to what the threat to her actually is.
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 16:52 (six years ago) link
i read this as "i burned a person of interest to the matter. i wont burn them publicly yet, but here is some proof i was in contact with a person of interest. i am scared. if anything happens to me, here is a trail to the person i burned to the fbi. i have little faith that ultimately the fbi can protect me under this administration, or will necessarily investigate fully due to circumstances. public notice might help so here."
it's not very clear, that's a...sea of inferences by me?
― Hunt3r, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 17:32 (six years ago) link
curious who it is.. at first I was thinking roger stone but not sure he would talk about 1 humint ratings
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 18:00 (six years ago) link
its Greenwald. I can't imagine it would be anyone else
the whole thing is written in a confusing way but I think the gist is that someone - most likely a journalist - had inside info about Flynn's plan to make good on (presumably) quid pro quo arrangements immediately after the election was called, and wound up going to the FBI about it. coming from Wheeler (who was always skeptical of this whole thing) this sounds like...a pretty big deal??
― frogbs, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 18:14 (six years ago) link
It’s probably not Greenwald because he hasn’t commented on it yet and has been posting about Louise Mensch all day.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 18:22 (six years ago) link
Also it seems more like a roger stone character is more likely to present connections to other actors/bad actors who might possibly be threatening to a journo.
― Hunt3r, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 18:34 (six years ago) link
Someone asked if the person was a journalist and she said “no”
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 18:50 (six years ago) link
it’s quintuple-agent carter page obv
― Fox News' Chad Pergram contributed to this report (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 18:53 (six years ago) link
not journo could still be greenwald then amirite xp
― Hunt3r, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 18:54 (six years ago) link
Reading this sentence, I felt the void open up below me and there's nothing but shouting stupidity in there.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 19:40 (six years ago) link
hey what do you know, Trump is planning to meet with Putin one-on-one, with no aids or note takers or, you know, witnesses.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 20:12 (six years ago) link
Two Scoops doesn't want anyone to see Putin kiss him on the belly, like a kitten
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 20:15 (six years ago) link
Honestly, among the most damning and suspicious things is that he has no idiotic nickname for Putin.— Emily Nussbaum (@emilynussbaum) July 12, 2018
fair
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 12 July 2018 20:52 (six years ago) link
Or Avenatti!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 12 July 2018 21:10 (six years ago) link
yea Trump's silence on Avenatti and the whole Stormy situation is pretty telling to me
― frogbs, Thursday, 12 July 2018 21:11 (six years ago) link
“I don’t think in the history of the department there’s ever been anybody so ill-prepared” for this job, says Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.), who has been one of the chief agitators against Benczkowski’s nomination. He says Benczkowski has “barely set foot in a courtroom.” (Benczkowski has never prosecuted a case.) He continues, “So if the obvious reason for why you’d want him there is not evident, then you have to look for less obvious reasons.”
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/07/brian-benczkowski-justice-department-nominee-with-russia-ties-confirmation/
our "conservative" republican friends are such traditionalists and strict originalists that when they ram a candidate through with zero relevant experiences, it can only be because freedom, liberty, tax cuts, and small government. free paul manafort! fire rosenstein! mire mueller! lock strzok up!!
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 13 July 2018 11:39 (six years ago) link
these comments help clarify the wheeler thing quite a bit
Trip says:July 3, 2018 at 10:53 amI’m confused (what else is new, amirite?). You mention that this person is lying, but then state that the text was, in essence, corroborated. So it’s not clear my excessive-heat fogged out brain what the lie is. Was it about the person’s true intentions? It’s weird to share that type of info that is kind of true and then spread disinformation. I might have an inkling about the source, but it would only be speculation, which I’m not gonna share.Be safe. Holy shit, life comes at you fast.
Be safe. Holy shit, life comes at you fast.
dc says:July 3, 2018 at 11:41 amShe indicated in a twitter post that the text correctly predicted what happened, and implied that the person told lies about other subjects. Marcy can correct me if I am wrong, but thought I would help out to close the loop on this question.
i'm still not quite sure how a journalist could play a 'significant role' in this though? as she says:
“a person whom I had come to believe had played a significant role in the Russian election attack on the US”.
unless she just means running interference over the media but there's plenty of that to go around as it is
― global tetrahedron, Friday, 13 July 2018 21:29 (six years ago) link
like a ‘journalistic telationship’ doesn’t mean the person is a journalist, it’s more that she’s burning a source
idk i’m still a little confused. seems like a bit of well-thought out ass-covering for a very specific situation she anticipates playing out further
― global tetrahedron, Friday, 13 July 2018 21:41 (six years ago) link
still have to listen, but pertinent:
https://www.wnycstudios.org/story/why-reporter-turned-in-source/
― global tetrahedron, Friday, 13 July 2018 22:31 (six years ago) link
okay this interview is way better than her post, listen to it
― global tetrahedron, Friday, 13 July 2018 23:49 (six years ago) link
strongly insinuates greenwald
― global tetrahedron, Friday, 13 July 2018 23:50 (six years ago) link
As the source? Huh?
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 14 July 2018 02:09 (six years ago) link
skip to 8:30
― global tetrahedron, Saturday, 14 July 2018 02:22 (six years ago) link
eh frankly i'm not terribly smart so don't listen to me. it still sounds like an actor in the campaign, idk. stone also admitted he was the unnamed collaborator in the indictment which was like pointing out that the sky is blue
― global tetrahedron, Saturday, 14 July 2018 02:26 (six years ago) link
Seeing people link old articles about the Podesta hacks from the election is infuriating. This one might be the worst, if only because it includes a Clinton operative stating everything we now know to be fact, and being completely dismissed:
https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/10/if-the-russians-are-really-meddling-in-our-electio.html
― Frederik B, Monday, 16 July 2018 07:51 (six years ago) link
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-07-17/helsinki-2018-putin-and-trump-s-tax-returns
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 15:56 (six years ago) link
Good point, we should have his tax returns.
But you know who likely has his tax returns? Mueller.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 16:03 (six years ago) link
One of the two authors of that Paste article (H.A. Goodman who pushed some bizarre “Bernie can still win this” theories) has since become an open and unapologetic Trump supporter and the other (Walker Bragman) wrote the “Liberal case for Trump” piece for Salon during the election.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 16:05 (six years ago) link
Maybe it’s healthy to acknowledge that horseshoe theory is at least a little bit real.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 16:13 (six years ago) link
HA Goodman has always been the worst kind of troll, he was disgusting during the primaries in 16 and it was clear he was in it more for the followers than the movement
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 16:55 (six years ago) link
Yeah dragging up a paste magazine piece by those two is some pretty impressive cherry picking. IIRC the main reason anybody read that in the first place was because people were making fun of tweedle-dee & -dum.
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 17:27 (six years ago) link
nastya rybka has said that she’s only going to give her tapes to.... oleg deripaska, in exchange for “a date and flowers.”https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/594g7n/exclusive-sex-huntress-says-she-wont-give-us-officials-secret-tapes-about-russian-election-meddling
― maura, Thursday, 19 July 2018 14:44 (six years ago) link
man i wish my nickname was 'sex huntress'
― BIG RICHARD ENERGY (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 July 2018 14:53 (six years ago) link
trump temptress
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 19 July 2018 15:05 (six years ago) link
i keep thinking 'reality is broken' so its only fitting that we're seeing calls to free reality winner imo
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 19 July 2018 15:05 (six years ago) link
when i see her name in a sentence it just looks like broken grammar to me, until i remember "that's a person!"
― Hunt3r, Thursday, 19 July 2018 16:48 (six years ago) link
Reality Winner being the only person thus far to go to jail over all this pretty much sums up where America is at right now
― frogbs, Thursday, 19 July 2018 17:05 (six years ago) link
manafort is in jail awaiting trial fyi
― This is a total Jeff Porcaro. (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 19 July 2018 17:25 (six years ago) link