The Jordan Peterson Thread

the picture in that piece of the cop standing under the poster of JP making a stern big brother face is v good. half expected the caption to be "need i say more"

Good piece but long, very long.

preferred JP attack remains the mishra piece; there's a reason that's the one that hit him

Yeah, the Mishra piece is still the most precise and with the best perspective. The Current Affairs one is the funniest and the NYT interview the most self-incriminating. This is kinda the scariest. I don't get smart people who are still on board the JP-train.

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My current psychiatrist recommended a bunch of books to be, because she'f previously been a researcher, and the claim is that people with bipolar disorder have less frequent and less severe episodes if they read about it. Not sure what the mechanism is supposed to be.

“You don’t understand. I am willing to lose everything, my home, my job etc., because I believe in this.” And then he said, with the intensity he is now famous for, “Bernie. Tammy had a dream, and sometimes her dreams are prophetic. She dreamed that it was five minutes to midnight.”

As a clinical psychologist, it's always important to trust things that are "sometimes" prophetic, and can mean whatever you want them to mean.

Canadaland has a scoop. I don't think it's all that damning/damaging on its own, but it definitely seems to be a tip-of-the-iceberg situation.

Jordan Peterson, the public figure, often talks about the patients of Jordan Peterson, the clinical psychologist. While he doesn’t name them, he frequently tells their stories and cites their issues, both to illustrate examples of the social ills he opposes, and as evidence of his success in helping people. (In his book, he notes that he has disguised details of their identity. Elsewhere, he does not say this.) By Peterson’s own description, his life as a public figure became “too hectic” for him to continue providing private counselling because he was worried he could “drift” or “make mistakes.” Ultimately, his public role won out, and Peterson left his private practice and stopped seeing patients.

Before he did, in the months when his old and new lives overlapped, one patient believes he did her more harm than good. Because of this, Samantha filed a misconduct complaint with the CPO that led to the regulatory body expressing “concerns” over a number of Peterson’s practices.

http://www.canadalandshow.com/how-jordan-petersons-fame-affected-his-private-practice/

i'm shocked - shocked! - that peterson is a shitty counsellor

Shortly before Jordan Peterson decided he couldn’t be both a media personality and a practicing psychologist at the same time, he cancelled sessions with patients, later claiming illness, while maintaining an appointment to appear on television; he responded to messages from patients with auto-reply emails which brought up the challenges of his burgeoning fame, directing recipients to send argumentative emails to his ideological opponents; he employed his wife to sort through emails from patients without first asking for their consent; he shared potentially identifying information about patients with other patients; and he twice visited the restaurant where Samantha worked, returning after she had implored him not to, having seemingly forgotten that she worked there.

the whole story is awful tbh

"he responded to messages from patients with auto-reply emails which brought up the challenges of his burgeoning fame, directing recipients to send argumentative emails to his ideological opponents"

cult leaders are the fuckin worst

it seems insanely unprofessional to have client email intermingled with his personal crap

he twice visited the restaurant where Samantha worked, returning after she had implored him not to, having seemingly forgotten that she worked there.

yeah this definitely seems like a tip of the iceberg situation

actually no this is more like an iceberg that is the tip of a bunch of other icebergs

“Dr. Peterson,” the panel wrote, “believed that he appropriately dealt with the transference issue by discussing transference and encouraging (Samantha) to play out the fantasy scenario in her imagination, but to embed that in an imaginative dramatization of all the real-world consequences that would ensue.”

Play out your fantasies about me in your imagination. If you can work in a dragon and it is eating my ideological opponents, that will be especially therapeutic.

oh god

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Yeah, I read about that. A right wing pressure group invites him to speak - i think he still tries to avoid describing himself as right wing or conservative. Not good for the cash flow, I guess.

That cannot be real. That is fucking hilarious

everything toilet paper usa does is a hilarious self-own, this is entirely in keeping with their unblemished track record of idiocy

lmao

Also coming in lobster piss flavor. pic.twitter.com/Lf9CnFII1f

— ALTON⚙️🔧 (@8ALTON8) June 2, 2018

the font in that tpusa ad is apparently... lobster

https://www.dafont.com/lobster.font

incredible

Mark Millar tweeted support for JBP's stance on Elmo and now I have to go jump off a roof

mark millar the awful comics guy?

yes

afraid to ask what his stance on Elmo is??

he is anti-elmo, thinks he is a disgrace to the legacy of jim henson or some such nonsense (elmo was introduced before henson's death)

this is in his bestselling book apparently

wtf I love Elmo. fuck you Jordan

these fuckos would hate Grover if they remembered he exists

for a guy who supposedly wants young men to reclaim their rugged masculinity, he sure does spend a lot of time railing against characters from kids' entertainment

okay, I'll bite: what's wrong with Elmo

he panders to the weaknesses of the child. no child who loves the unconditional fawning of the red muppet will ever be self-sufficient, let alone a man

I know what's going on here. There's obviously a sinister kermit-spiracy to deprive other muppets of the spotlight

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wtf I love Elmo. fuck you Jordan

― flappy bird, Monday, June 4, 2018 7:28 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hard agree

i saw the jp book sitting on an unoccupied table in a coffee shop the other morning while i was waiting in line. i scowled but was curious what the dude who returned to the table would look like. it was a 60-something year old woman.

Noooooooo

maybe her room is messy

elmo is grover for babies

They found that although the show was produced for 3-to-5-year-olds, children began watching it at a younger age. As a result, the target age for Sesame Street shifted downward, from 4 years to 3 years.

hmm yeah

wasn't there an anti-Elmo gawker post a while back? It was a reasonable argument I thought. Maybe there's something to this Peterson guy.

I have to admit I hate Elmo for talking down to kids, but I dont want to be on Petersens side on that regard ugh.

no I'm not particularly fond of him either but who gives a shit?

Shouldn't Peterson hate everything Jim Henson stands for, anyway? Statist softie multiculturalism.

you'd think so, but peterson's not really about following up on the logical endpoints of his various gripes about pop culture

Peterson seems like he'd identify with Sam the Eagle, solemnly engaged in a long, thankless struggle against the forces of degeneracy

Mark Millar is the same age as me why the fuck do these wankers even have an opinion on Sesame Street?

new board description ..etc.

mark millar is a cretin

well, yeah

even more of a cretin that i’d imagined if he’s on the same page as jordan peterson, too