Rolling Maleness and Masculinity Discussion Thread

anyone else sit down to pee? was recommended to me by a friend a few years ago, and after an initial reaction of incredulity (mild offense, even) I have now come to love it - makes for a nice little break and it's never messy

if there is a urinal (or if toilet is trashed) will still stand, in a forest would ofc always stand

it's funny tho because it's (seen as) effeminate and not something I admit to everyone

Of course I sit, otherwise I won't have hands free to swipe on Tinder.

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i lived in a house for years with one of those toilet seats that doesn't always stay up and risks at any time slamming down and showering you half-way through a piss. So I kinda got used to a sit-down wee

Yes, peeing sitting down is awesome. Any excuse to sit down really!

silby said most of what I wanted to say in these recent posts but on this specifically:

Why do we need to go out of our way to attach positive and non-traditionally feminine traits to women, girls, femininity etc. if the goal is actually that gender should have nothing associated with it whatsoever, a pure blank slate?

Because while the end of gender as a category is the best idea in the long term you can't act according to that in our current reality in the same way that saying "I don't even see colour" is not a good way to be anti-racist. Any positive traits associated with feminity should, in the long run, be seen as simply positive traits that anyone of any gender can decide to adopt or not, same for masculinity.

i took a look at that youtube channel and especially liked the one about stalking
it's not surprising that young men learn that dogged persistence and "not taking no for an answer" is the path to their dream girl's heart but irl it does not work and is harmful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZ1MPc5HG_I

Silby’s posts reminded me a bit of the essay here:

https://aeon.co/amp/essays/the-idea-that-gender-is-a-spectrum-is-a-new-gender-prison

which I know was quite unpopular but still thought-provoking (to me at least).

Please be a good person.
all else is commentary

― markle's potion (Ye Mad Puffin)

so then, don't be evil? not sure that dictum works out in practice.

anyone else sit down to pee? was recommended to me by a friend a few years ago, and after an initial reaction of incredulity (mild offense, even) I have now come to love it - makes for a nice little break and it's never messy

it's funny tho because it's (seen as) effeminate and not something I admit to everyone

― niels

you're goddamn right i sit, with my bph standing is not really an option. the germans particularly seem to find the notion offensive, having coined the epithet "sitzpinkel".

i don't like that essay at all and silby's posts did not remind me of it

xp

So if you want to call yourself a genderqueer femme presenting demigirl, you go for it. Express that identity however you like. Have fun with it. A problem emerges only when you start making political claims on the basis of that label – when you start demanding that others call themselves cisgender, because you require there to be a bunch of conventional binary cis people for you to define yourself against; and when you insist that these cis people have structural advantage and political privilege over you, because they are socially read as the conformist binary people, while nobody really understands just how complex and luminous and multifaceted and unique your gender identity is.

yeah this essay can fuck off imo

reactionary ass horseshit

cis doesn't mean you're the absolute embodiment of manhood or womanhood nor does non-binary mean that you've necessarily slipped outside of those categories, being non-binary is often v determined by those existing categories, GOD this is so stupid

needless to say i do not identify as non-binary bc i think i'm so special that no labels could possibly apply to me, nor do i know of ANY non-binary people who insist that cis people should call themselves cis, who gives a SHIT

I know a lot of guys that sit to pee. I have historically told any guy that he needs to sit the fuck down too if I have to clean a shared bathroom.

reilly-cooper really going to town on those darn snowflakes

having acquired ulcerative colitis (and later crohn's disease) starting from age 14, i became a seated pee-er by necessity, and would not go back.

That is such a strange shame for men to hold. Peeing sitting down. wtf.

I am a reasonably committed sit-down wee-er. The only shame I've experienced recently is sleepily trying to sit-down wee in the middle of the night, with the oftentimes attendant problem of needing a wee in the middle of the night, and weeing through the gap between the seat and the pan.

I do both depending on how I feel but there’s absolutely tons of shame in it. At my last job guys would actively monitor how you use the bathroom and diss people for standing in a stall!

At my office there is one cubicle* in the men's toilets, anyone using that to piss (if they don't have to for some medical reason) can go fuck themselves

(*this is against health & safety regulations but when I tried to report it to the council they wouldn't take any action unless I was prepared to be public about it being me who reported it, and I was not prepared to do that.)

What I don't get about the anti-sitting faction: If you need to do both functions, you naturally sit down, don't you? You don't, like, sit to poop and then stand up to pee midway through. Or vice versa. Or do you?

I haven't done an extensive survey for obvious reasons, but clearly at least some sitzpinkling is okay among even the manliest of men.

tough to hit the target with a hardon while standing, but impossible while sitting

fyi

That was my middle of the night problem.

mozeltov on yr midnight health tho

A sheynem dank.

no way i can urinate while sitting like that

my member is too long, to keep to specifics

I have heard that the USA keeps its toilet water very high( or maybe you're just a shower - good for you )

re. doing both functions ( xps to ye mad puffin) is that shitting in public is almost taboo in a number of places. I don't think I know anyone that had a poo at highschool for the whole 5 years - maybe because no-one wanted the shame of being suspected of weeing in the cubicle?

I poop at work every single day

Wait what thread is this

every time i poo i have to hold peter from drowning

also silby attaboy

holding peter to poophole

I poop at work every single day

― valorous wokelord (silby), Wednesday, May 23, 2018 9:39 AM (fifty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Wait what thread is this

― valorous wokelord (silby), Wednesday, May 23, 2018 9:39 AM (fifty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lmao

lol dmac

shitting at work is classic

aka fucking the dog on the company dime

Is this why men take forever to poop? You've been burdened by the shame?

nah, it's just good to waste company time iirc

I worked with a guy that would print out articles every morning to take into the bathroom for his morning poop.

yerac you should write a book with all these characters, seriously

i'd read it

same

Ha, he would literally get mad if someone started a big printing job in the morning and he had to wait for his articles. This was at B4rcl4ys.

gonna reimagine it thusly

"Thomas, a well-meaning intellectual who frequented Santiago's finest literary salon, had a penchant for defecating at the establishment's public lavatory. His adoration drove him to lengthy cubicle breaks in which he would sit for hours; like a king on his throne."

Change location, this was in NYC. He also used to disappear for long periods of time to go to Barnes and Noble for every author appearance so he could get a signed book to sell on ebay. And he kept a decoy outer coat on his chair at all times so no one would ever know if he left work early.

I think he is now at N0mur4.

My office is very small and not that soundproof, so I always sit down on the toilet, it makes less noise. Also, I don't poop unless it's mostly the people I don't really like who are left. I've been a lot more adamant about this since entering a pretty intense office romance. And less concerned with Tinder.

that sounds very bad

like it's so far from soundproofing that you can't drop a deuce without the office hearing your every plop? and one of those people who might hear you you're in a romantic relationship with? just reading this is making me anxious

Eh, it's Denmark.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9cWnubJ9CEw/hqdefault.jpg

Put a thin layer of toilet paper on the water to reduce ploppage noise.