Friend Infected With Right Wing Brain Worms - What to Do?

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Anyway this is all a bit off topic, hicks is just infected with regular worms

are you suggesting you have dug up his corpse

hicks delivery so bad and awful

Unsuited to modern game, poor signing by Jol

this hicks talk is reminding me of a roommate of a friend from many years ago who was pre-law and smoked a lot of weed and loved hunter s. thompson and bob dylan and terry gilliam and definitely considered himself a free thinker, the archetypical western u.s. private-school debate-club libertarian choad, damn he was annoying.

archetypal can't even spell anymore

dammit anvil where u been all my ilxlife

lol, don't know if u could coach dead Hicks into a modern game 4-2-3-1 lone cig-lighter role, Alan.

map, I think I knew that guy too. well, one of those guys

My buddy described above definitely is afraid of women which is obviously where a lot of this shit comes from

Fear of rejection etc

Feeling threatened by their agency

a bunch of the twitter hustlers drifted right from that into the alt-right, and some have jumped ship and are -- I shit you not -- selling vitamins and diet supplements now

https://www.racked.com/2018/6/12/17442336/skin-care-alex-jones-mike-cernovich-joe-rogan-serums

If you’re looking for high-quality alpha male skin care, Cernovich’s Gorilla Youth Serum fits the bill. The “absolutely loaded” product consists primarily of aloe juice, a common but effective hydrator; two safe, hydrating solvents; and the star of the show, the humectant hyaluronic acid, coming in fourth.

An effective representative of the master race can't have blackheads and bags under his eyes. Try the new line of facial care products from Darn Teuton today!

Actually, this might be a really superb business idea. How carcinogenic can you make a skin care product before it's illegal to sell?

only one way to find out!

Wonder if the On Cinema narrative was somewhat inspired by this or was it coincidence...

It's totally a reference, Heidecker keeps close tabs on the alt right.

Him and Vic Berger are constantly relentlessly going after Cernovich so I figured.

Heidecker kind of fell into it after cracking one joke after seeing some ridiculous tweets a long time back. Once he dipped his toe in, the mob instantly provided him more than enough material.

humectant hyaluronic

*Pretty sure this guy is a transfer target for the new Arsenal manager.

(*wisecrack for Britishes only)

massively xp but

I think hicks’s hatred of women would draw him to trump and his hatred of rednex would draw him away

The freethinker’s conundrum

― Elonio Grimesci (wins), Tuesday, May 22, 2018 4:20 PM (three weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is basically the hatred profile of a lot of this crowd, yet their disdain for, say, evangelical christians doesn't stop them from aligning with them

I get that it's not cool to like Hicks anymore but arguing that he would have aged into a reactionary conservative seems really off-base.

yeah he was already reactionary

sort of. but not conservative by any means.

The Iraq bits, abortion, pisspig Rush Limbaugh, "it's just a ride" not the mark of someone who'd move right IMO.

"smart fruit"

the gun control joke re: england

he was left wing politically, pretty progressive on race iirc, stunted in his relationship with pop culture and the opposite sex - at the very least i would have liked to see him wrestle with the contradictions as they revealed themselves. as a white southerner who was surrounded by right-wing assholes in the 90s his jokes meant a lot to me.

at least we can all agree he wasn't funny

person surrounded by right wing assholes is kind of the description of a lot of friends who enjoyed him. especially friends with kooky religious/conservative parents, it was like lashing out yet having to define yourself in terms of a specific norm

btw bill hicks succumbed to the worms, faked his death, and performs as alex jones (also a joke the friend who never quite distanced themselves from that norm have made)

at least we can all agree he wasn't funny

― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver)

i won't even go that far! all i can say for sure is that he _isn't_ funny. which is just humor for you.

beyond that, of all the possible contrapositives in the world "what would bill hicks be like if he had lived" isn't anywhere near the top of the ones i'm interested in pondering.

Wouldn't right-wing skin care converging with Gwyneth Paltrow's goop-ness be a sort of moment of clarity for brain wormers?

btw bill hicks succumbed to the worms, faked his death, and performs as alex jones glenn greenwald

btw this isn't "what would 1991 Bill Hicks feel like if he was transported here now", but "how would the years have treated him"

Hah, the 'btw' looks like it's a direct response to the quote - it wasn't meant so.

I was sorta joking about hicks - if he were around today he’d probably still be doing the 5 or 6 bits he did all his life tbh, or maybe he’d go even further down the radical socialist path of sticking it to waffle waitresses - but it’s easy to see ppl with hicks’s “freethinker” profile (smartdumb, conspiracist, autodidact, burnout, misanthrope) finding their way into all sorts of terrible politics. But no, I don’t really think it’s likely that he’d be a trump guy in this speculative reality.

very very hard to imagine what his coffee in cars would be like

lazy and disconnected at best imo and norm mcdonald does that with a lot more charm

Wouldn't right-wing skin care converging with Gwyneth Paltrow's goop-ness be a sort of moment of clarity for brain wormers?

― Philip Nunez

wouldn't the entire misogynist "redpill" movement being inspired by a movie by two trans women be sort of a moment of clarity for brain wormers?

You might mean word rather than movement, there.

the halfassed joke only works because Jones looks like a bloated Bill Hicks imo

Bill Hicks stuffed with gammon

bill gaiman

My relative is now talking about how they are a cultural racist. I knew this was coming but paradoxically it makes it easier. Instead of thinking to myself, 'do they know where they are going with all this? how can they not see?" it captures position pretty well, is very into hierarchies of people. I'm still fairly surprised at self-defining with the R word even with the modifier as i didn't realize that was a thing in right-wing circles (maybe it isnt)

i’ve heard “cultural chauvinist” before as a self-descriptor for right wingers who believe the “west is the best.” I think this is an “out” for people who want to act racist and have racist opinions but then be able to weakly deny that they are actually racist. (“It’s not about race it’s about culture, bro.”) your relative might be trying to say this but is too dumb to formulate it correctly.

your relative might be trying to say this but is too dumb to formulate it correctly.

Or you could accept the idea that they know - and mean - exactly what they're saying.

Either way they are racist.

Well I'm fairly ok with accepting the idea if someone says they are racist that may be a strong indicator of such!

Yeah you didn’t need my Vox explainer for that I was just trying to give some context

Unnecessarily facetious on my part, wasn't intended. Ok it was intended a little bit because the submit post button said please press me before the other kermit regained control

fake plastic treesh

i’ve heard “cultural chauvinist” before as a self-descriptor for right wingers who believe the “west is the best.”

― Trϵϵship

yeah i think the proud boys describe themselves as "western chauvinists". right-wingers these days will sometimes occasionally attempt to use euphemisms, but they're really bad at it and fool nobody.

I was having lunch yesterday with my two identical twin gender neutral siblings, who had come in from Montreal to counter-protest the Unite The Right demo. It was a huge success, apparently, there were 300 protesters and the Unite The Right people cancelled, it was just a few stragglers. A Toronto Sun columnist (Sue-Anne Levy) wrote about it, from a "the anti-hate crew seem themselves to be quite hateful" and described a scenario in which Sue-Anne was being chased by a bunch of "leftist lesbians", which we all thought was really amazing and hilarious.

So I was eating lunch and my sibling Iz was talking about how a complaint was filed against them at university recently. Apparently a man in their class, named Barry, complained that Iz created "a hostile environment" in the classroom. The professor was unsympathetic and told Barry to grow up. I asked Iz what they'd done to be hostile to Barry.

Iz said that Barry was prone to asking extremely dumb questions in class. They said that the class was reading a work by Foucault, and that Foucault made it clear, right off the bat, that this work was a phenomenological examination-- the very first paragraph. Barry, criticizing Foucault in his question, asked about why Foucault might not have made some practical observations in this work. Iz rolled their eyes and Barry saw them do it. Barry said, "what is it, Iz?" Iz replied, "nothing, just that your question is really dumb."

Iz went on to talk about how Barry was always interrupting discourse about this topic or that-- cops, white people, etc.-- by talking about intentionality. "Oh, but they don't MEAN to act this way." Iz looked pointedly at me and said, "WHY DO PEOPLE DO THIS." (It wasn't an accusation, Iz just knows that I always find ways to empathize with any argument.) We were on the sidewalk when they asked me this, smoking, and so I couldn't just pull an answer out of my ass, but I did tell them, "I know why, but I can't describe it just yet."

I saw this thread pop up and thought again about it. "Infected with right wing brain worms." I'd be interested to know if there are any neurological studies about people who assume "right-wing" views of thought. I think of my aging relatives embracing more protectionist ideologies. I think of my uncle, age 67, dating a black woman, who nevertheless takes issue with "black lives matter" and has a laundry list of excuses-- "we've come so far since the 60s, I was out marching, I hope you know"-- he's right! he was a big activist back then. I think of individuals I know with serious mental health difficulties, and their tendencies toward embracing enormous conspiracy theories, reading and learning and espousing deeply political feminist literature, but then turning around and testing "the limits of free speech" by posting pictures of Woody Allen and calling him "my hero" in a transparent move to initiate discourse about the nature of "allegations" and their binding power.

And what I wanted to say to Iz was that I want to speak to neurologists, or read up on it, because I've been tracking my own thought process. I can tell when my mind is in a state of objective, healthy processing. And I can tell when my mind is full-tilt amygdala fight-or-flight mode. Having dealt with trauma, and dealing now with aging, and the feeling that the language-of-progressive-politics is leaving me behind-- a woman recently told my bf that suggesting the consumption of alcohol to a potential consumer ("Come crack open a cold one with the girls," i.e.) was ableist-- I am still laughing about it--

--having dealt with all manner of mental situations that have transformed me from the normal, objective, book-reading, engaged person that I am at-least-half-of-the-time, I can absolutely positively identify with Barry. If the man is constantly feeling like the discourse is running against him, that he's made to feel stupid, that he might not sail through the class on the basis of his remarkable intellect as he'd hoped he would, that he might get a C+ to Iz's A, that I'm sure he is also aware that Iz is a genius and is at Columbia on a full scholarship.. and yet he's TRYING SO HARD... would he not feel inclined to defend people in positions of "oppression" because he is giving others the empathy he wishes he himself was afforded?

tl;dr: I think people become "right-wing" because of real-life trauma and/or the terrors of aging-- I instinctively believe it's a neurological thing.