i think there's a certain type of person who just always enjoys the friction of pushing back against authority or the status quo, which i understand bc i chafed under the status quo i grew up with, however i was happy to find a new more accepting status quo and didn't feel the need to push back anymore against it bc i don't have hate in my heart for women or minorities.
― omar little, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 17:51 (eight years ago)
my ex-friend has been saying some "interesting" things about cultural differences w/r/t gun violence in places like, oh let's say, Chicago and D.C., vs the lack of gun violence in, for example, Vermont.
― omar little, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 17:52 (eight years ago)
xxp ehh the atheist/freethinker contingent at that time still had a healthy overlap with libertarian types, it just that society caught up with 90% of their social concerns
― (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 17:55 (eight years ago)
wording it as society caught up to them means all their opinions have been static (since the 90s) and they were not influenced by the times they lived/live in
lots of freethinkers (don't know many atheists) that came from the 90s nowadays don't agree with racism, whether that was a conversion from 90s freethinking or they always held that view is difficult to prove, and probably useless to even argue
― F# A# (∞), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 17:59 (eight years ago)
People want a daddy, someone to do the work of defining the parameters of the world to whatever extent their parents failed to do so. When the benefit is guidance through an uncertain world by someone with unwavering conviction, credulity is a small sacrifice to make.
― I cop this squat in the name of slack (Old Lunch)
of all the polite fictions of this time, i find the notion that people can be treated as adults is the worst.
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 18:07 (eight years ago)
I have no idea what freethinker association you're talking about, but nearly all groups using that are associated with atheist groups or groups advocating freedom from religion
― (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 18:10 (eight years ago)
oh forgot to switch to america
― F# A# (∞), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 19:59 (eight years ago)
what country were you thinking of?
― (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 20:08 (eight years ago)
tbh the term gets lumped in with nonconformists and hippies but it's an actual centuries-old term connected to questioning religion
― (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 20:09 (eight years ago)
wording it as society caught up to them means all their opinions have been static (since the 90s) and they were not influenced by the times they lived/live inlots of freethinkers (don't know many atheists) that came from the 90s nowadays don't agree with racism, whether that was a conversion from 90s freethinking or they always held that view is difficult to prove, and probably useless to even argue
― Elonio Grimesci (wins), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 20:15 (eight years ago)
The Waco siege was in 1993 - some odd streams have been flowing together definitely since then.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 20:18 (eight years ago)
I think hicks’s hatred of women would draw him to trump and his hatred of rednex would draw him awayThe freethinker’s conundrum
― Elonio Grimesci (wins), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 20:20 (eight years ago)
I’m happy to give Hicks the benefit of the doubt and say he’d have been Bernie until was was Robbed By That Bitch - indisputably Trump afterwards though.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 20:20 (eight years ago)
i mean it's a fun thought experiment but ultimately useless
hixxx seems like he'd swing right of centre but given how dumb trump is, which is something he always made fun of, he'd probs swing radically left bc john stuart mill
― F# A# (∞), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 20:22 (eight years ago)
rednex
what was his problem with swedish pop
― (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 20:23 (eight years ago)
Do you really have to ask?
― Elonio Grimesci (wins), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 20:25 (eight years ago)
split his vote between Cotton Eye Joe and Old Pop In An Oak
― we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 20:26 (eight years ago)
https://78.media.tumblr.com/f3545157acb134e42ed128ad69a20006/tumblr_mnhix34YDx1rpduwho1_500.gif
― Elonio Grimesci (wins), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 20:26 (eight years ago)
Anyway this is all a bit off topic, hicks is just infected with regular worms
― Elonio Grimesci (wins), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 20:28 (eight years ago)
are you suggesting you have dug up his corpse
― F# A# (∞), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 20:36 (eight years ago)
hicks delivery so bad and awful
― laurel or hardyhearin (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 20:52 (eight years ago)
Unsuited to modern game, poor signing by Jol
― anvil, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 03:45 (eight years ago)
this hicks talk is reminding me of a roommate of a friend from many years ago who was pre-law and smoked a lot of weed and loved hunter s. thompson and bob dylan and terry gilliam and definitely considered himself a free thinker, the archetypical western u.s. private-school debate-club libertarian choad, damn he was annoying.
― you bet, nancy (map), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 04:28 (eight years ago)
archetypal can't even spell anymore
dammit anvil where u been all my ilxlife
― laurel or hardyhearin (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 07:53 (eight years ago)
lol, don't know if u could coach dead Hicks into a modern game 4-2-3-1 lone cig-lighter role, Alan.
― calzino, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 08:16 (eight years ago)
map, I think I knew that guy too. well, one of those guys
― (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 14:32 (eight years ago)
My buddy described above definitely is afraid of women which is obviously where a lot of this shit comes from
Fear of rejection etc
― Music is confidence (Ross), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 14:58 (eight years ago)
Feeling threatened by their agency
a bunch of the twitter hustlers drifted right from that into the alt-right, and some have jumped ship and are -- I shit you not -- selling vitamins and diet supplements now
https://www.racked.com/2018/6/12/17442336/skin-care-alex-jones-mike-cernovich-joe-rogan-serums
If you’re looking for high-quality alpha male skin care, Cernovich’s Gorilla Youth Serum fits the bill. The “absolutely loaded” product consists primarily of aloe juice, a common but effective hydrator; two safe, hydrating solvents; and the star of the show, the humectant hyaluronic acid, coming in fourth.
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 12:24 (eight years ago)
An effective representative of the master race can't have blackheads and bags under his eyes. Try the new line of facial care products from Darn Teuton today!
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 12:30 (eight years ago)
Actually, this might be a really superb business idea. How carcinogenic can you make a skin care product before it's illegal to sell?
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 12:42 (eight years ago)
only one way to find out!
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 14:43 (eight years ago)
Wonder if the On Cinema narrative was somewhat inspired by this or was it coincidence...
― Evan, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 15:00 (eight years ago)
It's totally a reference, Heidecker keeps close tabs on the alt right.
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 15:03 (eight years ago)
Him and Vic Berger are constantly relentlessly going after Cernovich so I figured.
― Evan, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 17:12 (eight years ago)
Heidecker kind of fell into it after cracking one joke after seeing some ridiculous tweets a long time back. Once he dipped his toe in, the mob instantly provided him more than enough material.
― mh, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 17:51 (eight years ago)
humectant hyaluronic
*Pretty sure this guy is a transfer target for the new Arsenal manager.
(*wisecrack for Britishes only)
― We can be herpes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 17:56 (eight years ago)
massively xp but
I think hicks’s hatred of women would draw him to trump and his hatred of rednex would draw him away
The freethinker’s conundrum
― Elonio Grimesci (wins), Tuesday, May 22, 2018 4:20 PM (three weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is basically the hatred profile of a lot of this crowd, yet their disdain for, say, evangelical christians doesn't stop them from aligning with them
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 19:44 (eight years ago)
I get that it's not cool to like Hicks anymore but arguing that he would have aged into a reactionary conservative seems really off-base.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 19:45 (eight years ago)
yeah he was already reactionary
― VAR VAR Rasputin (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 19:46 (eight years ago)
sort of. but not conservative by any means.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 19:47 (eight years ago)
The Iraq bits, abortion, pisspig Rush Limbaugh, "it's just a ride" not the mark of someone who'd move right IMO.
― louise ck (milo z), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:06 (eight years ago)
"smart fruit"
the gun control joke re: england
he was left wing politically, pretty progressive on race iirc, stunted in his relationship with pop culture and the opposite sex - at the very least i would have liked to see him wrestle with the contradictions as they revealed themselves. as a white southerner who was surrounded by right-wing assholes in the 90s his jokes meant a lot to me.
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 23:24 (eight years ago)
at least we can all agree he wasn't funny
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 23:25 (eight years ago)
person surrounded by right wing assholes is kind of the description of a lot of friends who enjoyed him. especially friends with kooky religious/conservative parents, it was like lashing out yet having to define yourself in terms of a specific normbtw bill hicks succumbed to the worms, faked his death, and performs as alex jones (also a joke the friend who never quite distanced themselves from that norm have made)
― mh, Thursday, 14 June 2018 00:02 (eight years ago)
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver)
i won't even go that far! all i can say for sure is that he _isn't_ funny. which is just humor for you.
beyond that, of all the possible contrapositives in the world "what would bill hicks be like if he had lived" isn't anywhere near the top of the ones i'm interested in pondering.
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Thursday, 14 June 2018 00:51 (eight years ago)
Wouldn't right-wing skin care converging with Gwyneth Paltrow's goop-ness be a sort of moment of clarity for brain wormers?
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 14 June 2018 01:11 (eight years ago)
btw bill hicks succumbed to the worms, faked his death, and performs as alex jones glenn greenwald
btw this isn't "what would 1991 Bill Hicks feel like if he was transported here now", but "how would the years have treated him"
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 14 June 2018 07:58 (eight years ago)
Hah, the 'btw' looks like it's a direct response to the quote - it wasn't meant so.