Friend Infected With Right Wing Brain Worms - What to Do?

You better believe he loved Ready Player One

aw man

“Have” a friend? xp

― valorous wokelord (silby), Monday, May 21, 2018 6:22 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol i guess it's like how people refer to the recently deceased as if they're still alive.

That’s the part of all this that sends me into despair. It’s like, these dudes aren’t even slickly packaged! They’re obvious hucksters! What is it that makes people like my friend subsceptible to their bullshit?

This is what gets me about my one friend who's like this. If he realized how badly he's been had he'd be so pissed, except in a way I agree with instead of a "Muslims are taking over Europe and our country is next" way.

“It's not the whole story but basically: a constant deluge of information (mostly noise) + a dearth of education wrt critical thinking skills”

its ALL about the repetition.

I was talking to a friend about maybe working in Malmo for a while, and I'd been looking at cost of living stuff, and she said "are you sure? its not safe anymore, right?"

We'd mentioned a few months ago the ridiculousness of these stories about how Bradford, Birmingham and Manchester(and Malmo!) are no go cities, and how silly it is. But it had wormed it way in enough with her. Neither of us know Malmo at all, but I said "all those stories are from the same people that try and tell us Manchester isn't safe, c'mon, they're not credible or honest"

And the realization credibility is irrelevant, all that matters is airtime. Arguing 'well Manchester is safe actually because statistics actually show blah blah" doesn't refute anything in peoples mind, it just links the words Manchester, Crime, Muslims, together some more. If these guys get their brand and their buzzwords more and more airtime, thats all that counts, no publicity is bad publicity.

If there is a deluge of information (and there is!), the simplest and loudest and the most repeated will always stand out

There's some kind of argument over on the Mary Lattimore thread. I'm now more likely to check that album out. Without the argument popping up in blog view, I probably wouldn't have even noticed the thread as I've no idea who that is. Airtime

I had the same reaction, it led to me having some pleasant naptime this afternoon.

Anvil so otm about the effect of repetition. People don't think, they "believe" the loudest, most frequent, and most recent things they've heard

yeah this whole 'slick, polished, hipster-ish' thing does my nut in.. like *this* is the re-brand??

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ddth-_tV0AAdwHO.jpg

Also, Marvel stuff, as the angry chuds have pointed out, is pretty diverse these days

Stories featuring non straight white male protagonists written by straight white males are still coming from a straight white male perspective, and that's what much of Marvel's "diverse" line-up boils down to. Not that I think straight white males shouldn't be allowed to write those stories or anything like that, but let's not overhype Marvel's role here.

Hard to overhype Disney / Marvel’s role in completely pissing off chuds though

yeah it's not like 21st century politics wd've entered their world thru any other source

Chuds see any concession towards diversity, no matter how vague, as the end of western civilization. I think it's important to demand a bit more than that.

nah I go to the movies to trigger chuds that’s all I care about.

hnnging chuds

Stories featuring non straight white male protagonists written by straight white males are still coming from a straight white male perspective, and that's what much of Marvel's "diverse" line-up boils down to.

Be fair, their editor-in-chief is a Japanese man.

I will never tire of that sic burn.

I've been sitting here trying to come up with a more nuanced way to put it, but:
People want to be grifted

People want a daddy, someone to do the work of defining the parameters of the world to whatever extent their parents failed to do so. When the benefit is guidance through an uncertain world by someone with unwavering conviction, credulity is a small sacrifice to make.

It’s funny how a certain type of self-proclaimed extremely independent thinker results in probably the single most predictable series of talking points, led like an obedient dog by whatever a certain bunch of people are venting about that week on YouTube or Fox.

xp

thought i was in the controps thread for a minute

ime 97.9% of the time a self-proclaimed "extremely independent thinker" really just wants license to be racist free of consequences

that's a sign of the times

i remember when freethinkers were the progressives and open to diversity in the 90s and even early 2000s

i think there's a certain type of person who just always enjoys the friction of pushing back against authority or the status quo, which i understand bc i chafed under the status quo i grew up with, however i was happy to find a new more accepting status quo and didn't feel the need to push back anymore against it bc i don't have hate in my heart for women or minorities.

my ex-friend has been saying some "interesting" things about cultural differences w/r/t gun violence in places like, oh let's say, Chicago and D.C., vs the lack of gun violence in, for example, Vermont.

xxp ehh the atheist/freethinker contingent at that time still had a healthy overlap with libertarian types, it just that society caught up with 90% of their social concerns

wording it as society caught up to them means all their opinions have been static (since the 90s) and they were not influenced by the times they lived/live in

lots of freethinkers (don't know many atheists) that came from the 90s nowadays don't agree with racism, whether that was a conversion from 90s freethinking or they always held that view is difficult to prove, and probably useless to even argue

People want a daddy, someone to do the work of defining the parameters of the world to whatever extent their parents failed to do so. When the benefit is guidance through an uncertain world by someone with unwavering conviction, credulity is a small sacrifice to make.

― I cop this squat in the name of slack (Old Lunch)

of all the polite fictions of this time, i find the notion that people can be treated as adults is the worst.

I have no idea what freethinker association you're talking about, but nearly all groups using that are associated with atheist groups or groups advocating freedom from religion

oh forgot to switch to america

what country were you thinking of?

tbh the term gets lumped in with nonconformists and hippies but it's an actual centuries-old term connected to questioning religion

wording it as society caught up to them means all their opinions have been static (since the 90s) and they were not influenced by the times they lived/live in

lots of freethinkers (don't know many atheists) that came from the 90s nowadays don't agree with racism, whether that was a conversion from 90s freethinking or they always held that view is difficult to prove, and probably useless to even argue

The Waco siege was in 1993 - some odd streams have been flowing together definitely since then.

I think hicks’s hatred of women would draw him to trump and his hatred of rednex would draw him away

The freethinker’s conundrum

I’m happy to give Hicks the benefit of the doubt and say he’d have been Bernie until was was Robbed By That Bitch - indisputably Trump afterwards though.

i mean it's a fun thought experiment but ultimately useless

hixxx seems like he'd swing right of centre but given how dumb trump is, which is something he always made fun of, he'd probs swing radically left bc john stuart mill

rednex

what was his problem with swedish pop

Do you really have to ask?

split his vote between Cotton Eye Joe and Old Pop In An Oak

https://78.media.tumblr.com/f3545157acb134e42ed128ad69a20006/tumblr_mnhix34YDx1rpduwho1_500.gif

Anyway this is all a bit off topic, hicks is just infected with regular worms

are you suggesting you have dug up his corpse

hicks delivery so bad and awful

Unsuited to modern game, poor signing by Jol

this hicks talk is reminding me of a roommate of a friend from many years ago who was pre-law and smoked a lot of weed and loved hunter s. thompson and bob dylan and terry gilliam and definitely considered himself a free thinker, the archetypical western u.s. private-school debate-club libertarian choad, damn he was annoying.

archetypal can't even spell anymore

dammit anvil where u been all my ilxlife

lol, don't know if u could coach dead Hicks into a modern game 4-2-3-1 lone cig-lighter role, Alan.

map, I think I knew that guy too. well, one of those guys