iyo did facebook ruin the internet?

ugggggh god i need a new plugin to block youtube recommendations, all i want to do is watch music videos and youtube keeps recommending me "JORDAN PETERSON OWNS SJWS", i'm reporting them all as "hateful/abusive" just on the off chance that Youtube will stop recommending me bullshit but i know it will never work. i'm so mad that the plugin i was using got bought out by bitcoin miners.

shit i need to just disconnect from the internet altogether and live out in a cabin in the woods somewhere

i'm so mad that the plugin i was using got bought out by bitcoin miners.

the internet in 2018

From the chief propigator of False News, comes...

https://i.imgur.com/r1Oe9Ak.png

jfc

holy shit mark zuckerberg defends holocaust deniers bc they are not intentionally misleading people...? pic.twitter.com/kfQpp0m3Sa

— cale g weissman (@caleweissman) July 18, 2018

Whole interview is a piece of work

https://www.recode.net/2018/7/18/17575156/mark-zuckerberg-interview-facebook-recode-kara-swisher

"intent" is the congenital centrist's most holy concept: always more important than anything, always unknowable

Intent is magic

- I'm sorry. I wasn't trying to slam this two-by-four into your face, breaking your nose and cheekbones, and knocking several teeth in. I was just trying to kill a fly I thought I saw go past me and your face got in the way before I knew what I was doing.

- Well, then, if you didn't really mean to do it, it's ok.

mensch rea

he's incredibly stupid

'intent' is for the rich

Ah, remorse:

I enjoyed our conversation yesterday, but there’s one thing I want to clear up. I personally find Holocaust denial deeply offensive, and I absolutely didn’t intend to defend the intent of people who deny that.

Our goal with fake news is not to prevent anyone from saying something untrue — but to stop fake news and misinformation spreading across our services. If something is spreading and is rated false by fact checkers, it would lose the vast majority of its distribution in News Feed. And of course if a post crossed line into advocating for violence or hate against a particular group, it would be removed. These issues are very challenging but I believe that often the best way to fight offensive bad speech is with good speech.

Yes, more speech please, so we can profile you and use your donated content to sell more ad impressions.

Why is anybody still on that hideous platform?

It’s worth noting, I think, that recode is quite possibly the most sympathetic outlet they could have picked for this interview, and only a week after their big event ended up mostly pissing people off with its anodyne vagueness.

They have been running full back page adverts here in the UK saying "data misuse is not our friend". the word "misuse" is doing a lot of work there, I guess they don't count all the profiling and targeting they do as misuse.

TV adverts too

This suggests the ad campaign is global - https://www.wired.com/story/facebook-launches-a-new-ad-campaign-with-an-old-message/

I would assume they wouldn't be spending all this money on ass-covering unless they were actually seeing user growth stall or even reverse, so that's good. I want them to go fucking bankrupt.

i am told user growth is in fact reversing, which i'm quite happy about. i'm less happy about the prospect that this growth reversal is apparently benefiting google - robbing peter to pay paul, really

lol there is no way people are dropping their fb accounts and then signing up for g+

Google+ doesn’t convincingly still exist.

The ads look so much like the trailer for The Social Network that I can’t believe it’s an accident.

i didn't say anything about google plus! i'm talking about the newsfeed on android phones.

tbh freedom of speech wrt holocaust denial is a very complex issue

there's really no "correct" answer zuck could have given

Presumably not just about raw numbers reversal but the optics of it too, cant afford not to be main player?

I dont know what the platforms are where growth is strong - I'd presumed youtube and instagram still?

Right but “the best way to fight bad speech is with good speech” is rapidly turning into “guns don’t kill people”, as a statement of “I will ignore all evidence to the contrary”.

The conditions that made what Zuck is saying true (to the extent it ever was) break down into a many-to-many communications situation like that the internet enables. And he knows this. There are studies showing it isn’t true. “Don’t feed the trolls” failed as an approach in 1994.

i had to look up what Facebook Stories were the other day. apparently they are like Snapchat Stories. i couldn't be bothered to look up what snapchat stories were.

it's meant to counter the decrease of original content being uploaded. people are posting less original stuff to facebook. and why is that, mr zuckerberg?

i still use m.facebook webpage rather than the app, because the app was making too many editorial decisions about what it was showing me when all i really want is 'most recent first'.

there's really no "correct" answer zuck could have given

maybe not but 'we won't tolerate holocaust denial on our platform' is definitely more correct than 'i don't think that they're intentionally getting it wrong'

(also that's a biiiiig 'maybe' on my part)

i had to look up what Facebook Stories were the other day. apparently they are like Snapchat Stories. i couldn't be bothered to look up what snapchat stories were.

it's meant to counter the decrease of original content being uploaded. people are posting less original stuff to facebook. and why is that, mr zuckerberg?

― koogs

they're gonna hire somebody to take pictures of my kids and my lunch for me?

tbh freedom of speech wrt holocaust denial is a very complex issue {...} there's really no "correct" answer zuck could have given

iirc, facebook is under no legal obligation to let any of their members use their platform and they are free to place both reasonable and purely arbitrary limits on what members publish on fb, so legally speaking, whether they allow "free speech" is a moot point. it's all just a matter of whatever their policy is.

it's not all that complex. zuck seems to be saying that their corporate policy allows their platform to be used for holocaust denial. they could easily choose not to allow it.

that
was
the joke

most ordinary people are so confused about what 'freedom of speech' entails that you could probably find plenty of them who'd seriously agree with the statements you're calling 'the joke'

yes, that.. was the joke

funnier jokes please

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanmac/congratulations-zuckerberg-call-trump-election-2016

In the days following Donald Trump’s election victory over Hillary Clinton, Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg placed a secret, previously unreported call to the president-elect during which, sources told BuzzFeed News, he congratulated the Trump team on its victory and successful campaign, which spent millions of dollars on advertising with Facebook.

The private call between Zuckerberg and Trump, which was confirmed by three people familiar with the conversation, is just one in a series of private endorsements from Facebook employees of the Trump campaign’s ad efforts on the platform. The company declined to comment on the call. The White House press office did not respond to a request for comment.

While Facebook has been reluctant to publicly acknowledge how well Trump used its social network to reach voters, it has celebrated the Republican presidential candidate’s campaign internally as one of the most imaginative uses of the company’s powerful advertising platform. In addition to interviews with Trump campaign staffers and former Facebook employees, BuzzFeed News obtained company presentations and memos that show the social media giant viewed Trump’s campaign as an “innovator” of a fast-moving, test-oriented approach to marketing on Facebook.

Burn them

With fire

we need to rename the thread btw

All of Facebook's gains this year have now been erased in after hours trading. The stock is down 23.5%. Nothing these execs are saying seems to be assuaging the sellers. Massive after hours volume of 18.9 million shares.

— Max A. Cherney (@chernandburn) July 25, 2018

buy buy buy

i'd be happier if i didn't suspect that the only two consequences of this will be: 1) layoffs; 2) an even shittier product

software engineers could do with some layoffs

It's official: Facebook posts largest one-day loss in market value by ANY company in the HISTORY of the United States stock market

a great time for a better government than we will ever have to scoop it up for a bargain and establish a usable social media platform scrubbed of all the profit-seeking shadiness, oh well

their only good employee quit

I am very excited to say that I have accepted a teaching and research role at Stanford starting in September. My last day at Facebook will be Aug 17.

Stanford students can sign up for my Fall class here: https://t.co/6qIhS4gXA2

— Alex Stamos (@alexstamos) August 1, 2018

Hooray!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2018/08/21/facebook-is-rating-trustworthiness-its-users-scale-zero-one/

0.51'd

uh

I hope you will make time for our story today:https://t.co/jSHzsN68IU pic.twitter.com/I9moH26iOk

— Max Fisher (@Max_Fisher) August 21, 2018

Their reams of data converged on a breathtaking statistic: Wherever per-person Facebook use rose to one standard deviation above the national average, attacks on refugees increased by about 50 percent.

iyo did facebook ruin the world?

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/xwk9zd/how-facebook-content-moderation-works