The Jordan Peterson Thread

Where do I apply for this gig

He was bragging a while ago about how, with his Patreon and book income, he'd found a way to "monetize social justice warriors," which kind of leaves aside who exactly is being parted with their money.

There is something (only one thing) that confuses me about JP's whole deal. Most of the crowdfunding requests I've seen are made by people who actually don't have enough money to do a thing and are looking to raise funds from supporters, who get to be a part of it. Jordan Peterson's salary from U of T was over http://www.ontariosunshinelist.com/people/bsfytg60K last year. I don't think it's that expensive to make those videos or do the writing that he does. He's not moving to a part-time contract and taking a pay cut in order to do it. What exactly is the rationale for crowdsourcing this kind of money? Where do his donors think their money is going? Do the parties concerned see it purely as just remuneration for a great individual?

*over http://www.ontariosunshinelist.com/people/bsfytg60k

*over $160K: http://www.ontariosunshinelist.com/people/bsfytg

is there a reason this guy should be taken any more seriously than alfred rosenberg

― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Saturday, May 19, 2018 9:58 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That's the unconscious genius of JP and why he is so successful imo: you have as many fans calling themselves lobsters than people dunking on his hilariously wrong theories and talks because that's just so entertaining. There is that much space for content and discussion nowadays, to be taken seriously is not important really anymore. He just has to continue doing his thing and he will be hard to ignore.

Like I try my best to not care about him but when that thread is updated I get excited because boy he is an idiot.

all he has to do is apply his same schtick to anything of the moment, or anything that pops up in the news. That Avengers thing i did took two minutes, he can turn stuff like that into a half hour section of a speech with some purposeful obfuscating.

Sund4r I don’t think patreon is “crowdfunding” in quite the same way as something like Kickstarter or gofundme or whatever, people are paying their subscription for what they think is good content

Like the chapo bros don’t need a million a month or whatever to yuk it up in a living room and record it on a phone

160k canadian a year isn't life changing. His 80k a month patreon is. He reminds me so much (in age, sppearance, mannerisims) of a french psychoanalyst I know. They both really have the air of just being entirely over everyone's shit and making money where they can.

Well, I wasn't questioning why someone would want $80K/mo. I was wondering how he justifies crowdfunding that kind of money but wins's explanation makes sense. I misunderstood how Patreon works.

I mean, as much as this could ever "make sense".

He's not spending the money frivolously, you can be sure. He's a very serious man! He's very close to hitting this Patreon goal (paragraph breaks mine):

I am developing my plans and consulting with others to bring accredited online humanities education to as many people as possible around the world. My colleagues and I (who include excellent engineers, programmers, financiers and educators) want to take the humanities back from the corrupt postmodernists, and offer education of the highest possible quality everywhere at 1/10 the price or less.

We'd like to solve the accreditation problem as well, offering degree-equivalents with real psychometric value: best student in 10000; best in 1000; best in 100; best in 10; best in 5 (and no certification granted below that).

We want to automate and crowdsource the problem of teaching people to write. We want to set up the courses so that (1) the content itself is constantly graded and improved and (2) the same goes for the accreditation process. We'll start with the humanities, including history, generating something approximately a four year liberal arts college degree, teaching people how to be responsible, literate, effective, powerful, confident citizens. We want to conduct real research into how people learn (and how they learn fast) and use the results of that research to make education better.

It's high time for the humanities of the new millenium. However, it's a multiyear project, at best.

Well, hopefully he can get that revolutionary humanities program out before he dies from being so far up his own asshole he suffocates.

High on his own supply, for sure.

He misspelled millennium

So four out of five who pays him for that course would not even get a certificate?

May 1: I met today with my now three-person team to further develop the online university. We're employing a variety of statistical and computational strategies aimed at mapping out the most relevant domains of knowledge, as well as developing technology that will help people assess their knowledge in those domains, so they will be able to determine what they know and what they have yet to learn.... We hope to have something early stage but functional programmed by the end of the summer.

BA, Trump University
MA, Peterson School of Humanities

So he's basically creating

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO8x8eoU3L4

MA equivalent, Distinguished Lobster (best in 5), 45 Youtube-hours

We want to automate and crowdsource the problem of teaching people to write

lol what a genius nobody ever thought of this before success is bound to be swift

pic.twitter.com/rGCdOo8BuB

— Goth Ms. Frizzle (@spookperson) May 19, 2018

given the mess that he's published, i can't wait to see the mishmash of pseudo-metaphysical bullshit his disciples start creating!

conservatives under the age of 40 are all showing their asses as fervent white nationalists and dateless wonders who deserve their misery but insist on outsourcing it to everyone else

160k canadian a year isn't life changing.

this is charming and if anybody knows of a job going for that kind of money i promise them it will change my life pretty radically

lol yeah

yeah but the grasping socialists take three-quarters of it and then you're left with like $20 american (j/k)

wiki says he's been married for almost 30 years, curious how this extended brush with chaos has affected his deeply serious thought

xpost He's nearer retirement and a full professor. He should be making that amount to be comfortable.

mookie, there is a photoseries of him and his family at home online.

joke’s on him, he never looks comfortable

He looks pretty comfy in those steampunkish masks he has.

According to the internet, his 26-year-old daughter is "the global poster girl for a carnivorous, ketogenic lifestyle." She "eats meat and salt only," and credits it for her ability to overcome debilitating depression, ezcema, and the childhood rheumatoid arthritis that necessitated multiple joint replacements.

god it's gonna be so great when he gets divorced

The daughter comes across as a perfectly nice person, with some quackish views but I'm glad they've helped her! Apparently Dad named her after Mikhail Gorbachev.

https://imgur.com/UH23a3Rl.png

WTF is that gender-neutral pronoun doing there?

triggering the libs

160k canadian a year isn't life changing

Spoken like someone with whom I wouldn't mind trading socioeconomic places.

I just figured out this was a quote from someone on here and LOOOOOOOOL whut

$125K USD per year is not that fucking special of a household income in coastal cities, certainly not for a dude his age, and certainly not in the same order of magnitude as almost $10M USD which is what his Patreon donors are apparently providing him.

otm. and he secretly loves the soviet art, i think, because of the power fantasy. developmentall a teenager who found a snake oil formula.

wiki says he's been married for almost 30 years, curious how this extended brush with chaos has affected his deeply serious thought

Apparently Dad named her after Mikhail Gorbachev.

could he actually be a grifter, getting rich pretending to hate the thing he's always been? I know that's not at all a thing for older white guys to be doing these days, but

xpost tombot otm. I was about to look up what even first year associates make because I know 125k is definitely under. He has a phD, is ~55, gets published lives in Toronto. This is a normal fucking salary (if not under what I thought he would make).

A 'normal fucking salary' can change your life in some quarters.

fine fine fine for some people on this board it would change their lives, but for JP, who is a lifelong white male academic at elite universities, this is a normal trajectory of salary for him.

'life-changing' is perhaps a poor phrase, but yeah that money isn't going to take you terribly far in toronto

Yeah, I was using it in relation to Peterson himself, I didn't realize so many people would take it personally.

Yerac just forgot to discuss the context of the salary, let's calm down.

It's just the top 5th percentile in Canada, nothing special.

Snark aside, I take your point, Yerac.

Ha, and I was all looking up ivy league salaries for professors (in the approximate 200k range).