The Jordan Peterson Thread

does Peterson own only one suit?

That's in the hidden rules, which you can only read with an invisible ink pen.

13. Own Only One Suit
14. Sigh a Lot, It Makes You Sound Sophisticated and World Weary
15. Saddo Dudes Can Make You Rich

16. Bitches, Man

made me lol

we should record ourselves while we're this high and listen to it later. i bet we sound like geniuses. pic.twitter.com/1KyY8F15Nz

— mark (@kept_simple) May 18, 2018

From the article, airlines are run by angry gay queens!?! What?

haven't had a chance to read the whole thing yet, but this is a+ journalism

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdgIHjbXUAEjmvh.jpg:small

Maybe he does deserve all that money for dealing with his followers.

Peterson asks me if I've seen The Avengers.

"Not Age of Ultron, but the first." I nod and open my mouth as if to say something, but he raises his finger and smiles when I stop to let him continue.

"The Hulk is perceived as chaos, but it's perfect order. Recall when he says his secret is he's always angry. Does that remind you of anyone else?" I think for a moment, but he doesn't give me time to answer.

"Man. One whose anger is mislabeled as chaos, when in actuality, in the film the anger is channeled into a valuable asset. Restoring proper order. To emasculate him is to rend him powerless, helpless, an ally of no value whatsoever."

He looks away. "Of course no one remembers the Hulk, they don't find the character interesting. Usually. But the myth of Hulk, it's rooted in the truth of man and his journey. You may pretend the myth does not exist, but its existence is real. We pretend the shrunken man of Dr. Banner is a restored order, but it's a shrunken order."

jesus fucking christ

I love that NYT writer refers to him as catlike. I bet he hates that.

he always seems like he's stretching his body too much in photos

definitely seems to have no idea how to stand, wear clothes, or decorate a house

Has he or anyone explained what he actually means by the phrase "enforced monogamy"?

I was reading somewhere someone defending it by saying he was talking anthropologically and not governmentally.

So like, if society effectively enforces a taboo against any person having multiple sexual partners, that will cause a de facto redistribution of booty so that every person will have one sexual partner, and never again will anyone go unlaid.

It's beautiful.

The Zero With A Thousand Faces

xp

can we just stop and appreciate a child being named LION ARAR

Haha yes that’s actually great

so we're not allowed to have more than one sexual partner contemporaneously, right? serial monogamy still mostly ok?

just trying to get my ducks in a row here in case they frog march me away

The Peterson stans are all over Twitter bitching at Nellie Bowles, especially about the "forced monogamy" thing. The point they keep making over and over is that Peterson's doesn't mean "governmentally enforced," he means "culturally enforced." But then they don't explain what they mean by that, and of course what that actually means is slut-shaming and scarlet letters. Peterson's concern that if women are all "allowed" to compete for "desirable males" there won't be enough women to go around is at root an argument for social control of women's sexual options, and there's no way around that.

Stonings and honor killings?

tbh his current audience also thinks that attractive male "chads" are stringing along multiple women and thus keeping them out of the supposed marketplace

What else could account for them not having dates?

mh, I understand your concerns. Personally, whenever I feel confused by some of Peterson's wisdom, I refer to the diagrams in Maps of Meaning and they generally clear up any lingering questions I have.

https://images.currentaffairs.org/2018/03/peterson5.jpg

okay i read it and mainly that guy is just . . . dumb

omar little, on the other hand, is fucking brilliant

(not that we didn't already know that)

Could "casual" sex necessitate state tyranny? The missing responsibility has to be enforced somehow...

— Jordan B Peterson (@jordanbpeterson) December 17, 2016

Not sure he's talking about strictly cultural monogamy-enforcement.

I keep thinking I'm looking at a Fake Peterson account

Hey he's just asking the question, he's not saying ...

I get the sense a lot of his stuff is like that. He's big on everyone taking responsibility except him.

really hitting me now how, message aside, this guy is living every frustrated mediocre career academic's midlife crisis fever dream.

you toiled for years teaching intro psych to hungover freshman but now......you fill auditoriums and sell out VIP tickets! you pull down $80K/month putting your lectures on youtube!

Maybe he does deserve all that money for dealing with his followers.

really hitting me now how, message aside, this guy is living every frustrated mediocre career academic's midlife crisis fever dream.

― call all destroyer, Friday, May 18, 2018 7:58 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you toiled for years teaching intro psych to hungover freshman but now......you fill auditoriums and sell out VIP tickets! you pull down $80K/month putting your lectures on youtube!

― call all destroyer, Friday, May 18, 2018 7:59 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's especially aggravating that, not only did he achieve this with bogus pandering, but, as per the OP, he has used his newly acquired fame and influence to aggressively target those who are still toiling in the system, mostly in conditions that are less privileged than the ones he experienced (and experiences, now that he is comfortably tenured and still able to collect his six-figure paycheque while spending all his time on social media 'activism' that pulls in the really big money).

I get that some people aren't really cut out for casual sex, and few are in all situations.

But JP is definitely a dude who had his heart broken by someone who thought she was having a cool one-nighter and now is very sad and angry

really hitting me now how, message aside, this guy is living every frustrated mediocre career academic's midlife crisis fever dream.

― call all destroyer, Saturday, May 19, 2018 1:58 AM (twenty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you toiled for years teaching intro psych to hungover freshman but now......you fill auditoriums and sell out VIP tickets! you pull down $80K/month putting your lectures on youtube!

― call all destroyer, Saturday, May 19, 2018 1:59 AM (nineteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm. and he secretly loves the soviet art, i think, because of the power fantasy. developmentall a teenager who found a snake oil formula.

oh for sure. i mean if you get off on authoritarianism to the extent he clearly does the soviet art isn't remotely surprising.

Swamp witches sound awesome, what is his problem.

also, soviet art (and film!) slaps

^OTM

Yeah there’s no way he doesn’t secretly love that art.

The Zero With A Thousand Faces

― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 18 May 2018 22:01 (yesterday) Permalink

A+

i am not all that ashamed to admit that i trawled through that NYT article half-expecting to find the Age of Ultron paragraph

OK I 100% believed that Age of Ultron bit was real, and what's more, I stand by my claim that it's less outlandish than some of the actual quotes

enforced monogamy wld actually go down a treat if he just made the ceremonies extremely quaint and gave the sense that everyone involved was a good egg really

I have been working with a programmer who has volunteered his services and has already produced this, he has produced a website that enables people to enter text that will then classify the text as postmodern or non-postmodern and so you will be able to enter a course descriptions from universities – the course description, the professor’s name, the discipline, and the university. It will tell you the degree to which the description is postmodern and then you can decide for yourself whether you want to take that and become a social justice warrior, if that is what you think your education should be about, or if you should avoid that like the plague that it truly is … I’d like to knock enrollment in the postmodern disciplines down by 75% over the next five years. I think that I am thinking about it from the perspective of nonviolent warfare, it is that serious to me and that this would be equivalent to cutting off the supply chain.

wonder how this is going btw

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— PeterNorway (@classiclib3ral) May 18, 2018

is there a reason this guy should be taken any more seriously than alfred rosenberg

I think back to that anecdote about him calling his dad and telling him about what an incredible epiphany he’s just had and how the incredible epiphany was probably nothing matters anyway I should just get rich off the fucking rubes in my sophomore classes by tossing off a book, like when Governor Eric Greitens decided to become a right-wing fuck because climbing the Democratic Party ladder was too hard

All these entitled shitbags get incredibly far on so little talent just because they wholeheartedly believe they deserve all the stuff, and the rest of us are too fucking polite to call them out in public and point out that they have no imperative other than feed me

I'm sure Jord feels compelled to protect democracy from the hellscape of people being addressed by their preferred pronouns and women being acknowledged as human

He’s a lapsed nihilist at best

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Top marks

I just looked up something from when I first became aware of him last December. His patreon was at 40k then. Shitballs.