Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

get your Thoughts and Prayers in while they are still fresh

toughening up American kids the hard way

At this rate a 9 year old is going to beat an active shooter to death with her bare fists.

covering all bases, shooter reportedly had a shotgun and a pistol along with an assault weapon.

hearing about explosives as well

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Man-carrying-American-flag-and-handgun-arrives-at-12925271.php#photo-15574523

Fuck this guy forever

he should get together with the Kent State girl.

fucking idiot!god damn people fucking suck

im glad they were those stupid red hats so they are easily identified

Reminds me of the Stoneman-Douglas parent who made sure he had his Trump gear on before he showed up at the school to be interviewed (oh, and to also find out what happened to his kid).

I thought Fred Phelps had died

Rolling Stone reminds us that both Trump & Pence spoke in front of the NRA IN TEXAS TWO WEEKS AGO: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/trump-santa-fe-shooting-w520488

yeah, there's a brief window of opportunity to pander to the NRA these days, you can't blame them for taking advantage. after a major shooting it's polite to wait a few weeks so it doesn't look like you're supporting the people who make money off of people dying too much. but then of course the next big one could be any day so you can't wait too long to pander, either. it's not easy for them

Local News says 10 dead now.

Reportedly used dad's guns.

Also, numbers going around that 2018 has been deadlier for school children than it has been for military..

wonder if that's per capital, that would be o_O

capita

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/05/18/2018-has-been-deadlier-for-schoolchildren-than-service-members/

The school shooting near Houston on Friday bolstered a stunning statistic: More people have been killed at schools this year than have been killed while serving in the military.

Initial estimates put the number killed at Santa Fe High School at eight, but even without those deaths, nearly twice as many people were killed at schools than in the military. (The figures for the military were compiled from Defense Department news releases and include both combat and noncombat deaths.) Including only students who died in school shootings (excluding, for example, teachers) the total still exceeds military casualties.

A large part of that is the mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., on Feb. 14. Without those 17 deaths, the totals for the two groups are about the same.

This is not usually the case. In 2017, the number of fatalities among service members was far higher than the number of people killed in school shootings, according to The Washington Post data.

high school students are troops now

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/18/us/dimitrios-pagourtzis-santa-fe-suspect/index.html

Dimitrios Pagourtzis, 17, has been identified as the suspect in the Texas high school shooting that left 10 people dead, Galveston County Sheriff Henry Trochesset said.

Pagourtzis is being held on capital murder charges with no bond. More charges may follow, the sheriff said.

Student Mateo Twilley said she knew Pagourtzis and that he wore a trench coat to school.

"I had my advisory class, which is after third period with him," she told CNN. "He was really quiet and he wore like a trench coat almost every day."

grim lol @ the trench coat thing still being a thing

Lt. Governor Dan Patrick everyone...

http://www.thisisinsider.com/santa-fe-shooting-texas-dan-patrick-doors-stop-school-shootings-2018-5

I mean, even PIERS MORGAN is clowning his ass.

This is hardly the first fine he's shown himself to be a world-class idiot.

*first time

Washington D.C.-area high school students entered the U.S. Capitol building this afternoon to demand that House Speaker Paul Ryan pass gun reform legislation. Several were arrested. Livestreaming now: https://t.co/3nfmiI67JL

— The Trace (@teamtrace) May 18, 2018

XP Well, yeah, but to fumble so quickly and on such a national stage and the ownage he's receiving are worth noting.

He deserves everything he gets

Agreed.

high school students are troops now

does that mean they get better airplane seats

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/neighborhood/bayarea/article/Santa-Fe-mass-shooting-Texas-Houston-thoughts-and-12925436.php

A state representative from Houston is asking for more than just sympathy following the mass shooting in Sante Fe, Texas on Friday.

"Y'all been sending thoughts and prayers for two freaking decades now," tweeted Rep. Gene Wu, who represents the Gulfton area. "Time to try something new."

Not that the "too many doors" thing is worth refuting, but most schools do control access, often through one or at most two doors (which always have someone watching them, in my parental experience). This shooter was a student, I'm sure he just walked in with the rest of the students. God people will say any idiot thing to avoid talking about guns.

...too many doors?

Gene Wu otm.

Are you with me Rep Wu?
Are you really just a shadow
Of a man that I once knew

So will Texas really force all students to go through 1 door now and put armed security there at entrance? Cheapskate right-wingers like to talk but that’s it.

I have kids at a school with exactly one door and it is exactly one pain in the ass, thanks.

Everywhere in DC is like that already. Work, church, temple, school, all one door, all guarded. The exceptions? Museums. They have two doors.

Anyway fuck gun people, fuck Texas and ESPECIALLY fuck this piece of shit for deciding the place to start his rampage was ART CLASS.

surprise surprise the vegas shooter (remember him?) was a rwnj https://apnews.com/f467daaa52864d3ba2eaca4c7708e2e5

In a jailhouse interview with police and the FBI, the man said Paddock called Federal Emergency Management Agency “camps” set up after Hurricane Katrina in 2005 “a dry run for law enforcement and military to start kickin’ down doors and ... confiscating guns.”

The man, whose name was redacted in reports released Wednesday, quoted Paddock saying somebody has to wake up the American public and get them to arm themselves.

The man said he met with Paddock outside a Las Vegas sporting goods store after posting an online ad to sell schematics to convert semi-automatic guns to fire automatically.

I know there’s not a lot of info in the Vegas case and any new details are appreciated but that source is suspect as hell imo

Jailhouse interview? So the guy that supposedly met him was in jail? Why did it take so long for anything to come out about the guy's potential motive, which I thought was totally unknown? So yeah, color me dubious.

that’s just one part of about 1200 pages of evidence that were unsealed by foia this week

here’s another bit

In a handwritten account, a woman said she overheard a man she later said was Paddock talking with another man at a Las Vegas restaurant just three days before the massacre. She told police that Paddock seemed angry about the 1990s standoffs at Waco, Texas, and Ruby Ridge in Idaho.

“At the time, I just thought ‘strange guys’ and I wanted to leave,” said the woman.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-texas-shooting/spurned-advances-provoked-texas-school-shooting-victims-mother-says-idUSKCN1IL0D9

Sadie Rodriguez, the mother of Shana Fisher, 16, told the Los Angeles Times that her daughter rejected four months of aggressive advances from Dimitrios Pagourtzis, 17, who is in jail charged with murdering 10 people early on Friday at the high school in Santa Fe.

Fisher finally stood up to him and embarrassed him in class, the newspaper quoted her mother as writing in a private message to the Times.

“A week later he opens fire on everyone he didn’t like,” she said. “Shana being the first one.”

FWIW

FYI: Since Shana’s mom started talking to reporters, other family friends have raised questions about the reliability of her claims and say they haven’t been able to corroborate her accounts about the shooter’s behavior toward her daughter. We’ll keep you posted if we learn more. https://t.co/u2lfdZuUzK

— Matt Pearce 🦅 (@mattdpearce) May 20, 2018

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/houston-police-chief-art-acevedo-vote-out-politicians-only-offering-prayers-after-shootings/

apparently this is serious?

"It's time to put an end to this glorification of carnage in pursuit of ratings because it's killing our kids. It's time for Congress to step up and pass legislation putting common sense limitations on #MSM's ability to report on these school shootings." –@MrColionNoir #MSMsense pic.twitter.com/0CulOKEPSn

— NRATV (@NRATV) May 24, 2018

I'm gonna go buy a gun so I can shoot myself now

Not literally serious, no. It's actually a pretty clever/effective video. Not one I agree with at all mind you, but it's very well done. Skip to about 2:50 to see what they're up to.

If you don't feel like watching, after a fadeout the narrator comes back and asks if it was chilling to hear someone advocate for common sense limits on the first amendment, and says this is exactly how gun rights advocates feel when people advocate for common sense limits on the 2nd.

What he fails to acknowledge (I assume; I didn't watch to the end) is that we already DO have common sense limits on the 1st.

Well 1st limits like yelling fire in a Theater are about safety totally diff and reasonable. Not about freedom.

1st amendment limits include perjury, libel, fraud, threats, hate speech, verbal harassment, and intimidation.