Avengers: Infinity War

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also, the guy's a seasoned warrior, he probably enjoys a punch-up every now and again just to stay sharp

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 11 May 2018 14:13 (eight years ago)

You didn't really get to see anyone mourn, which would be the actual emotional stake in this situation - the deaths aren't permanent but the characters don't know that, they could've used that for emotional resonance.

If we're talking Thanos' plan there's also the issue that the remaining half of the universe would surely continue to procreate, and it might be twenty years or a century, but we'd arrive at the same unsustainable situation again. But I don't really mind Thanos' plan not making total sense - dude is insane and has delusions of grandeur.

xpost yeah definitley, and this is how it usually plays out in the comics, where (all moral complexity aside) he comes off as much more of a sadist. But in this movie it did feel like he just wanted to get those chaos esmeralds asap and the ppl in his way were nuisances, not so much entertainments.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 11 May 2018 14:17 (eight years ago)

Duuuuuuuuuudes.

Dudes.

People have been making predictions about a Thunderbolts movie for a while, and my basic assumption is that it wouldn't work because the villain pool is a little shaky and because there isn't really sufficient motivation for a group of them to get together and pose as heroes.

But.

What if the motivation becomes the heroes eventually wresting the Gauntlet from Thanos and safeguarding the gems (as we know they probably will), and then a group of Bad Dudes who have a first-hand understanding of the danger involved (eg Red Skull, Mordo, maybe like Ultron) rises up to denounce these so-called heroes and the unchecked power they now wield.

BRB, speed-dialing Feige.

Delightful in Microdoses (Old Lunch), Friday, 11 May 2018 14:21 (eight years ago)

(arguing over what we would have done with the gems is pointless, protagonists are always bound by their own worldview, but anyway:) The Reality Gem only appears to change reality while he's looking at it - Mantis and Drax return to normal after he's left.

There isn't any given or imaginable rationale what the interplay between the different gems is that allows him the power for the finger-snap - we're expected to just treat him as a video game boss levelling up And That's Fine.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 11 May 2018 14:22 (eight years ago)

I got to see everyone in the cinema I was in mourn Spidey.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 11 May 2018 14:24 (eight years ago)

The Reality Gem only appears to change reality while he's looking at it - Mantis and Drax return to normal after he's left.

that's a good point i guess but i assumed he'd used the reality gem to do the actual wiping out of the universe - if it wasn;t that what was it? the soul gem?

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 11 May 2018 14:25 (eight years ago)

(i'm down with old lunch's t-bolts movie btw)

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 11 May 2018 14:26 (eight years ago)

It was all six - we're not told how, we're just told by Strange that he can.

(one of my favourite bits of the film is the fact that we're told (maybe twice) that he could do this with the snap of his fingers, but if you don't know the comics it may still come as a surprise that this isn't a rhetorical turn of phrase)

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 11 May 2018 14:28 (eight years ago)

yeah it was def a rule-of-threes thing iirc (but we've established already today that i don't always rc) - they mention it twice before the inevitable denouement

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 11 May 2018 14:30 (eight years ago)

My going theory (which I think I've mentioned itt) is that whatever Thanos thinks he did to wipe out half the universe is probably not exactly what happened. All those people are actually in the Soul Gem rn (with or without Gamora's explicit assistance/control over the gem).

Delightful in Microdoses (Old Lunch), Friday, 11 May 2018 14:36 (eight years ago)

yeah, i think that seems like a reasonable assumption

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 11 May 2018 14:38 (eight years ago)

lmao so apparently Lucrecia Martel took a meeting with Marvel. I'd love a transcript.

Simon H., Friday, 11 May 2018 14:43 (eight years ago)

I hear fanboys had major issues with her cinematic adaptation of beloved hero Headless Woman.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 11 May 2018 14:46 (eight years ago)

Yeah, the Soul Gem is the one gem that we didn't actually see the use of.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 11 May 2018 15:07 (eight years ago)

i want it all to be solved by the little dude from captain planet whose power was heart

gneb farts (darraghmac), Friday, 11 May 2018 15:11 (eight years ago)

Paramount and Leonardo DiCaprio's Appian Way Productions are teaming to recruit Captain Planet to take pollution down to zero.

The studio is in talks for the rights to the 1990s cartoon series, and is eyeing Jono Matt and Scream Queens star Glen Powell to write the script.

If the deal is made, Jennifer Davisson Killoran and DiCaprio will produce the project via Appian Way, which signed a first-look deal with Paramount in March, along with Powell.

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 11 May 2018 15:15 (eight years ago)

I maintain to this day that Captain Planet was one among a number of similar propaganda efforts on the part of the pollution industry to make environmentalism seem as uncool as possible.

Delightful in Microdoses (Old Lunch), Friday, 11 May 2018 15:18 (eight years ago)

I read the Infinity Gauntlet just now and that would have made for a hilarious movie if done as is

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Friday, 11 May 2018 15:28 (eight years ago)

mission v much accomplished xp

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 11 May 2018 15:32 (eight years ago)

Caveats re: Infinity Gauntlet

1) Starlin is Starlin. He does a very particular thing and you kinda have to be onboard with his thing or you're likely to find it corny af. Zen-Hooberis. Pip the Troll. Afroed evil Warlock analogues. All that.
2) Infinity Gauntlet is not just Infinity Gauntlet. It's worth going back and reading Starlin's runs on Warlock and Captain Marvel first, but at the very least his run on Silver Surfer and Thanos Quest are pretty essential. He's been writing this story in dribs and drabs for 40+ years, and Infinity Gauntlet is just a chapter.
3) It's probably best to just kinda ignore Starlin's employment of any non-cosmic characters. The inclusion of the regular heroes always felt a little bit perfunctory to me.

Delightful in Microdoses (Old Lunch), Friday, 11 May 2018 15:35 (eight years ago)

The one nice thing about Infinity Gauntlet as an event is that, in complete contrast with the mega-events of today where much of the story seems to occur throughout the dozens of tie-in issues, the crossovers are completely perfunctory. Unless you feel that it's very important to see Silver Surfer preventing Rhino from releasing zoo animals.

Delightful in Microdoses (Old Lunch), Friday, 11 May 2018 15:43 (eight years ago)

i can think of nothing more important tbh *pulls up marvel unlimited*

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 11 May 2018 15:50 (eight years ago)

You didn't really get to see anyone mourn, which would be the actual emotional stake in this situation - the deaths aren't permanent but the characters don't know that, they could've used that for emotional resonance.

the movie ended like 2 min after everyone died

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 11 May 2018 15:51 (eight years ago)

I know! Which makes all the talk about how devastating the moment is even weirder to me.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 11 May 2018 15:57 (eight years ago)

None of the Avengers died under the Obama administration

— KIΠG KUΠT∆ (@RNB215) May 9, 2018

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 11 May 2018 15:57 (eight years ago)

#quicksilverwasafalseflag

Delightful in Microdoses (Old Lunch), Friday, 11 May 2018 16:01 (eight years ago)

Finally got around to seeing this last night. I don't have a whole lot to add to what was already said, I thought it was good, better than expected. Seems like they finally found a way to make a good ensemble superhero movie.

silverfish, Friday, 11 May 2018 17:13 (eight years ago)

i think the reason this "worked" as an ensemble movie is that it wasted v little time on reintroducing characters. it just assumed that you knew all the players and how they vibed w each other

gbx, Friday, 11 May 2018 18:54 (eight years ago)

watched ben shapiro review infinity war and he said thomas sowell could have defeated thanos with logic and he meant it

— raandy (@randygdub) May 11, 2018

Westworld more like Worstworld right? (Phil D.), Friday, 11 May 2018 21:39 (eight years ago)

nah man, Thanos has the Logic Stone

808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Friday, 11 May 2018 22:27 (eight years ago)

A 'no comment' on Jane Foster's death = a 'nooooooooo' from me. Unless they're planning to recast, which is fine and encouraged.

Delightful in Microdoses (Old Lunch), Sunday, 13 May 2018 13:58 (eight years ago)

she was on the toilet when she disintegrated

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 13 May 2018 13:59 (eight years ago)

ass's to ashes

gneb farts (darraghmac), Sunday, 13 May 2018 14:12 (eight years ago)

If they can re cast Marta and Donna they can re cast anyone

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Sunday, 13 May 2018 16:40 (eight years ago)

kinda sad we’re not gonna see matt damon’s big ol’ ham actor loki again tbh

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 13 May 2018 17:45 (eight years ago)

I wasn’t going to see this thing again but my mom wanted to go. Her review: it was good

mh, Sunday, 13 May 2018 21:54 (eight years ago)

<i>Yeah, the Soul Gem is the one gem that we didn't actually see the use of.</i>

My theory is, given how seemingly easy it was for Thanos to convince Gamora to reveal the Soul Stone's location, that she planned this in advance and had somehow rigged the Soul Stone, just like Warlock and Thanos fooled Magus with the Reality Gem in the Infinity War comic.

Notice that after the sacrifice of Gamora, Thanos wakes up on beach with the Soul Stone without knowing how he ended up there, or where the Stone actually came from... And like you said, during the rest of the movie we never see him use it. So I think Gamora revealing the Soul Stone's location was all part of a plan, and she didn't actually die. What Thanos got was either an extremely convincing replica, or the real Stone but rigged in a way Gamora can use to her advantage.

It could be that whoever possessed the Soul Stone before the events of this movie helped Gamora pull this off, so that Thanos didn't notice he got a replica or a rigged Stone. They could even do it so that after-credits scene for Avengers 4 shows this real possessor of the Stone – and it's revealed to be Warlock. Most of the MCU after-credits scenes are teasers for upcoming movies, so why not tease GotG 3, which is supposed to be the official debut of Warlock?

Tuomas, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 06:52 (eight years ago)

I checked the wiki, which claims that the soul stone was used to pick the real Doctor Strange out of the many duplicates.

I'm also kind of skeptical that, if we won't have Adam Warlock by the end of the Infinity War, he will ever turn up.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 08:21 (eight years ago)

they've teased his arrival pretty definitively in gotg2, i'd be very surprised if he doesn't show up eventually

martin short's interiors (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 08:30 (eight years ago)

Yeah, I'd say Adam Warlock is a lock for GOTG3

groovypanda, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 09:13 (eight years ago)

I took every shot from behind-the-scenes featurettes where Dr. Strange is in front of a greenscreen, and edited him into a waterpark. pic.twitter.com/kiD8JTZLgH

— Jesse McLaren (@McJesse) May 15, 2018

808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 13:48 (eight years ago)

Howard The Duck has the Soul stone obvs.

nashwan, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 14:06 (eight years ago)

https://78.media.tumblr.com/fa83d8aef181c08e313df54c2f39bda6/tumblr_p8omqkDgLK1xtspdio1_1280.jpg

i am fast and full of teeth. i willl die in a barn fire (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 17 May 2018 20:06 (eight years ago)

they hope to dichotomize the titan
a divided enemy is an easier foe to deal with
but thanos refuses to surrender his individuality

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 17 May 2018 21:27 (eight years ago)

thanos isnt the hero this universe wanted

but he might just be the one it needed

good message for the snowflakes seduced by the quippily sardonic egomaniac billionaire or all american muscle head ex armed-forces or the yoga dude who claims to have a magic answer to everything

thanos '22 imo

gneb farts (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 May 2018 23:27 (eight years ago)

his goal is admirable, his methods suspect, his resolve... unshakeable

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Friday, 18 May 2018 13:50 (eight years ago)

the yoga dude lol

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 18 May 2018 16:41 (eight years ago)

"oh i used be a surgeon, had it all, had a moment of clarity on a trip to nepawl, have u been to nepawl awh u must the yak butter is to die for hry wanna see a trick?"

the fuck basis is this for a superhero

laurel or hardyhearin (darraghmac), Friday, 18 May 2018 18:11 (eight years ago)

i think u'll find he's not a superhero he's the sorceror supreme actually

i am fast and full of teeth. i willl die in a barn fire (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 18 May 2018 18:14 (eight years ago)


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