saw him speak at a dinner and flop up close is otm
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 10 May 2018 20:09 (eight years ago)
His whole Newark projects story felt like something preconceived to make the perfect This American Life episode. Or maybe campaign stump story.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 10 May 2018 20:12 (eight years ago)
His story/schtick works at college graduation events-- I saw him do one (until you realize he delivers the same one everywhere and look into his past. But we're tougher on our candidates flaws than Republicans are on theirs).
Meanwhile rich Republicans using their tax cut to try to stop any blue wave
Las Vegas casino mogul Sheldon Adelson has cut a $30 million check to the House GOP-aligned Congressional Leadership Fund, a massive cash infusion that top Republicans hope will alter the party's electoral outlook six months before Election Day
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 10 May 2018 20:38 (eight years ago)
well I would obviously vote for him for pres if he were the nominee and wouldn't be loudly talking shit about him at that stage, but I don't see him as a likely all that viable candidate. Although it's not like there's anyone in the pool that looks like a clear winner right now.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 10 May 2018 20:42 (eight years ago)
I've never warmed to Booker. I'm Team Kamala all the way at this point. I'd be happy with Gillibrand too. Bernie and Biden are too old and doddering.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 20:49 (eight years ago)
I'll take Harris but I still want it to be Duckworth more
― valorous wokelord (silby), Thursday, 10 May 2018 21:50 (eight years ago)
Kamala's prosecutor instincts are a deal breaker for me. I'm pretty sure I'm in the tank for Gillibrand at this particular juncture.
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 10 May 2018 21:54 (eight years ago)
Booker's a whore.
I’m fairly close to self identifying as a “Gillibro”
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 10 May 2018 22:08 (eight years ago)
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/5/11/17340502/kirsten-gillibrand-immigration-border-stop-bill
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Friday, 11 May 2018 16:04 (eight years ago)
gillistan
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 11 May 2018 16:20 (eight years ago)
Brand Gillibrand
I like her. It's still hard to get a sense of her as a candidate, especially running against Trump.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 11 May 2018 16:33 (eight years ago)
Yeah it’s honestly too hypothetical until primary actually begins.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Friday, 11 May 2018 17:36 (eight years ago)
Summer Lee, a candidate for state representative in southwestern Pennsylvania, runs her campaign out of Milton’s Top Notch Hair Salon, in downtown Braddock. On a recent Saturday morning, three dozen volunteers, most of them bearded, white millennials, were eating bagels and studying canvassing packets, preparing to go door-to-door to convince residents to vote for Lee. Among them was Arielle Cohen, who was wearing a T-shirt that read “A Woman’s Place is in the Revolution,” and Adam Shuck—“like corn or oysters”—who co-chair the Democratic Socialists of America in Pittsburgh, which endorsed Lee at the end of last year. If she wins, Lee will be the first African-American woman elected to the state legislature from southwestern Pennsylvania. But this race is also notable for the way that it pits Lee, who is thirty years old, against Paul Costa, a popular state representative who has been in office for nineteen years and is a member of a Democratic dynasty around Pittsburgh. (One of his brothers, Jay, is a state senator; another, Guy, is a city official; and his cousin, Dom, is a state representative.)Here in this tiny race is the larger, existential battle over the future of the Democratic Party that is taking place across the country. Will it be centrist, establishment candidates who lead the much-anticipated “blue wave,” or will progressive insurgents sweep them aside? In Texas, Tennessee, California, and Hawaii, a Democratic electorate is pushing back against the Democratic machine’s support of the old guard. Many, like Lee, see the Democratic Party’s faith in centrists, like Costa, as having already failed; the increasingly radical right means that there’s no meaningful middle in which to meet.
Here in this tiny race is the larger, existential battle over the future of the Democratic Party that is taking place across the country. Will it be centrist, establishment candidates who lead the much-anticipated “blue wave,” or will progressive insurgents sweep them aside? In Texas, Tennessee, California, and Hawaii, a Democratic electorate is pushing back against the Democratic machine’s support of the old guard. Many, like Lee, see the Democratic Party’s faith in centrists, like Costa, as having already failed; the increasingly radical right means that there’s no meaningful middle in which to meet.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/dispatch/a-tiny-state-legislature-race-that-represents-the-future-of-the-democratic-party?mbid=social_twitter
― Simon H., Saturday, 12 May 2018 15:50 (eight years ago)
And Emily's List, which is about as establishment Democratic as you can get, endorses Stacey Evans in the Georgia gubernatorial primary over Stacey Abrams, who some analysts say "might have broader appeal with white moderates and thus a better chance of winning a Georgia general election."
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/04/us/politics/emilys-list-midterm-elections.html
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 12 May 2018 16:08 (eight years ago)
In fact, both candidates are significantly further to the left than most of the Democratic figures who are endorsing them. Abrams sells herself as the progressive firebrand with a national fan base (she was endorsed by EMILY’s List, where she’s been a favorite for years) who can galvanize tens of thousands of African-Americans to go to the polls for the first time. Yet she served in the Georgia House for 11 years, seven of them as minority leader, and has a reputation as a pragmatist willing to do deals with the Republicans who’ve controlled state politics for almost two decades. Between February 1 and March 31, the latest campaign-finance-reporting period, she outraised her opponent three to one.Evans, who has the support of much of the state party’s ruling class, is a color-inside-the-lines consensus builder. “I see myself as a champion for common sense,” she says. “Sometimes that makes me moderate, sometimes that makes me liberal. Maybe every now and then it makes me a conservative.” Yet Evans is almost exclusively basing her campaign on an all-out defense of the Hope scholarship, the most progressive entitlement program the state has ever enacted.
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 12 May 2018 16:22 (eight years ago)
I love this country!
But dig deeper: There’s unease in the air. In Georgia elections, “race is a factor that sits in the corner of the room all the time,” says Davis Fox, a political analyst in DeKalb County, one of the Atlanta suburbs gradually undergoing a shift to the left. “I’m very worried that this is a bitter train wreck between a black and a white.”
Jim Galloway, a longtime political reporter and columnist for the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, says that the choice is between “immediate gratification and fundamental realignment” of the Democratic Party. Will Democrats make the safer bet and go with Evans, who many think has a better shot in the general election because of her embrace of Trump-disaffected moderate Republicans and rural whites? Or will they tap Abrams as their homegrown Obama?
“I’ve talked to white Democrats and black Democrats — they’re very unsettled by Abrams,” Galloway says. Then he adds, unsettling me, “She’s not just female, she’s unmarried. That’s an issue.”
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 May 2018 16:32 (eight years ago)
https://i.imgur.com/fm72dKp.jpg
hi it's me, jim fucking galloway
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Saturday, 12 May 2018 16:39 (eight years ago)
Just got back from early voting for Abrams.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 12 May 2018 16:41 (eight years ago)
And Emily's List, which is about as establishment Democratic as you can get, endorses Stacey Evans in the Georgia gubernatorial primary over Stacey Abrams
Ya mixed up your Staceys. Abrams got the endorsement.
Stacey Evans is basically a wet noodle of a candidate, white or not.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 12 May 2018 16:49 (eight years ago)
It’s cute that her divorced parents have started dating each other because of the campaign, though. That would be solid gold rom-com material back when Michael Douglas was in everything.
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 12 May 2018 17:02 (eight years ago)
then the ex/new wife would accuse him of rape
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 May 2018 18:17 (eight years ago)
Yeah I too got confused by the two Staceys, sorry, I said the exact opposite of what I meant. Emily's List endorsed Abrams.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 12 May 2018 18:43 (eight years ago)
maple cocaine is owed royalties at this point
.@SenGillibrand talking up importance of women in power at CAP conference: “If it wasn’t Lehman Brothers but Lehman Sisters we might not have had the financial collapse."— Cameron Joseph (@cam_joseph) May 15, 2018
― Simon H., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 19:49 (eight years ago)
As we all know, women are never greedy or unscrupulous.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 19:51 (eight years ago)
I know it's just a line and not a policy plank or anything but man that does not inspire confidence
― Simon H., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 19:52 (eight years ago)
Because she’s not owning up to the fact that capitalist speculation inexorably leads to boom-bust cycles and ruined lives? Or just because it sounds lame?
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 19:56 (eight years ago)
Lehwoman Sisters
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 19:57 (eight years ago)
Both of those, but also the whole idea that hiring women CEOs/execs is any kind of structural fix to much of anything is pretty popular and also wrong
― Simon H., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 20:02 (eight years ago)
It’s just a corny women’s solidarity joke. It’s weird that so many people complete the process of posting the Maple Cocaine” callback and don’t stop when they how cringey and embarrassing it is.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 20:40 (eight years ago)
*when they realize how
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 20:50 (eight years ago)
Regardless of its jokeness, a lot of people earnestly think along these lines and they really don't need to be validated
― Simon H., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:52 (eight years ago)
no nerdstrom, she is actually suggesting that the financial sector would be less fucked if there were more women execs. this is the height of neoliberal diversity inanity which is so well parodied in the maple cocaine tweet
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:54 (eight years ago)
i donated to greg edwards (pa-7, running against a centrist and a ... non-populist borderline republican). he seems good.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 23:06 (eight years ago)
lol at Gillibrand, jesus fucking christ
"It's A Corny Women's Solidarity Joke, Relax" will be the campaign slogan of course
― sciatica, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 23:39 (eight years ago)
She didn't say the financial sector would be less fucked up with more women execs. She said "we might not have had the financial collapse." That's a specific outcome she is linking to gender. Which is what makes it very shaky suggestion at best.
I'm perfectly happy with the idea of more women execs, because women deserve the same opportunities to succeed or to screw up that men are given, but I don't think women have some moral ascendancy over men or a discernibly greater level of competence at executive decision making.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 23:45 (eight years ago)
okay, dudes
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 23:46 (eight years ago)
sorry that was last part was unnecessary. I don't know how to express the fact that a lot of liberal gender-speak doesn't translate to electoral viability, especially in its more obviously superficial pandering form
― sciatica, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 23:46 (eight years ago)
Sotosyn pandering, and he's not even married
Gillibrand is a bullshitter, but y'know it goes with the job
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 23:58 (eight years ago)
at least she didnt congratulate Yam on Jerusalem like her colleague Schmucko
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 00:17 (eight years ago)
well, yeah, I wanna a bunch of bros explaining as if it were a novelty that women can pander.
Gillibrand's been pretty good on many questions; she and the competition should be as vocal and omnipresent as Ted Cruz and Rand Paul were in 2013-2014.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 00:27 (eight years ago)
I agree she's been mostly good for a Dem, which is why this rankled
― Simon H., Wednesday, 16 May 2018 01:15 (eight years ago)
Can’t you find something else to be rankled aboutHow much rankling do you try to get in every day
― valorous wokelord (silby), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 01:18 (eight years ago)
What can I say, it's rank out there
― Simon H., Wednesday, 16 May 2018 01:24 (eight years ago)
in other news, a couple of DSA folks (Summer Lee and Sara Innamorato) won their Philly state rep primaries
― Simon H., Wednesday, 16 May 2018 02:02 (eight years ago)
If Kristen Gillibrand is on the ballot in November 2020, I will vote for her without half a second's hesitation. It is true, moreover, that she has distinguished herself in her opposition to Trump, her advocacy on sexual assault, and all the rest.— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) January 5, 2018
That said, I do not think it is dumb or bad to point out, for instance, that her positions on immigration in the House were basically Trumpism. https://t.co/YxRmBHoZMu pic.twitter.com/oVSxLbeZbG— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) January 5, 2018
It is nonsense to say that switching positions makes her non-viable and it is likely true that women get more scrutiny for this than men. That said, I think there are sensible reasons to scrutinize Kirsten Gillibrand, which I wrote about late last year. https://t.co/2PZog0zBWy— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) January 5, 2018
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 02:06 (eight years ago)
scrutiny is what separates us from the animals I guess
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 02:13 (eight years ago)
nailbiter in pa-7 for anyone who's interested.
https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/pennsylvania-house-district-7-primary-election
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/pennsylvania-7th-district-lehigh-valley-democratic-primary-future-of-party_us_5af5b771e4b00d7e4c1a2ab9?a1
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 02:14 (eight years ago)
two big dsa wins in Pitt, Lazio winning, Fetterman winning, seems like a good night. Is there a guide somewhere to the entire set of primaries/what other races have unusually left candidates in them?
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 02:17 (eight years ago)
Penn roundup is here
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/05/15/us/elections/results-pennsylvania-primary-elections.html
― Simon H., Wednesday, 16 May 2018 02:21 (eight years ago)