And now that I have told you guys this I have broken the spell and don’t have to do this anymore
― Nashville #9 Dream (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 4 May 2018 04:06 (eight years ago)
Danish pronunciation being the "weirdest" and hardest to understand across languages
My wife, who speaks German, tells me she has an easier time understanding spoken Danish than spoken Swedish.
― grawlix (unperson), Friday, 4 May 2018 13:58 (eight years ago)
that's interesting! working in an office with Norwegians and Swedes I'm used to being told how weird Danish sounds - and from studying many different languages myself (German, French, Spanish, Polish, Turkish, Hindi, Arabic) I can confirm that the distance between written and spoken Danish is quite impressive and not wholly unlike that of Arabic :P - but would be nice to throw a few Germans into the mix and hear their thoughts
cultural ties between Denmark and Germany are probably stronger (German was the royal language for centuries iirc) than those between Sweden and Germany, and I believe a lot of people in Schleswig are bilingual
I do believe this passage from wiki to be rather otm:
Danish has a very large vowel inventory comprising 27 phonemically distinctive vowels,[4] and its prosody is characterized by the distinctive phenomenon stød, a kind of laryngeal phonation type. Due to the many pronunciation differences that set apart Danish from its neighboring languages, particularly the vowels, difficult prosody and "weakly" pronounced consonants, it is sometimes considered to be a difficult language to learn and understand,[5] and some evidence shows that small children are slower to acquire the phonological distinctions of Danish.[6]
― niels, Friday, 4 May 2018 15:16 (eight years ago)
Een taal is nooit genoeg.
― Nashville #9 Dream (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 4 May 2018 22:46 (eight years ago)
Ik zal dit jaar tweetalig zijn
― Nashville #9 Dream (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 4 May 2018 22:50 (eight years ago)
Je hebt goed je best gedaan en hebt er 10 op en rij goed.
― Nashville #9 Dream (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 4 May 2018 22:56 (eight years ago)
Na und?
― omgneto and ittanium mayne (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 26 May 2018 02:18 (eight years ago)
So I read about some other product called LingQ today.
― omgneto and ittanium mayne (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 3 June 2018 00:43 (eight years ago)
LingQ no doubt allows you to go a lot further, but the interface seems kind of noisy and distracting, to me at least.
― And Nobody POLLS Like Me (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 June 2018 15:41 (seven years ago)
But really came to post: when willl Duo add Icelandic?
― And Nobody POLLS Like Me (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 June 2018 15:42 (seven years ago)
In any case, now speaking random phrases out loud in Danish
― And Nobody POLLS Like Me (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 June 2018 16:29 (seven years ago)
Hello, thread that I killed. Came to see that the Linguee dictionary seems to have a login feature, wonder what that actually does for you
― Uncle Redd in the Zingtime (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 June 2018 14:15 (seven years ago)
Hungarian course for English speakers kind of a joyless slog. Reverse direction much more manageable.
― Isora Clubland (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 22 July 2018 19:43 (seven years ago)
https://www.duolingo.com/comment/19937675/Has-anyone-finished-the-Hungarian-course-and-reached-level-25
― Isora Clubland (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 22 July 2018 19:45 (seven years ago)
It’s like they took that Monty Python sketch to heart
― Isora Clubland (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 22 July 2018 23:58 (seven years ago)
Brand new Hindi course looks really good though. So far web-only, not on apps yet.
― RONG Blecch Limo Wreck (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 4 August 2018 13:29 (seven years ago)
(thread is dead)
― RONG Blecch Limo Wreck (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 4 August 2018 13:30 (seven years ago)
(Oder besser gesagt: kaputt)
― RONG Blecch Limo Wreck (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 4 August 2018 13:52 (seven years ago)
(must get back on this, maybe when the heat is less and the book is out)
― mark s, Saturday, 4 August 2018 14:40 (seven years ago)
(The book? Do tell. Oh wait, don’t want to jinx)
― Suspicious Hiveminds (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 4 August 2018 14:45 (seven years ago)
(due out september: and mentioned elsewhere on ilx but i am wary of spamming too aggressively)
― mark s, Saturday, 4 August 2018 15:04 (seven years ago)
(Cool)
― Suspicious Hiveminds (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 4 August 2018 15:05 (seven years ago)
Nice! Good luck with it.
― grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 4 August 2018 15:32 (seven years ago)
I'm still persevering with Spanish on Duolingo, but it's so rote nowadays that I've little to say on the experience.
I'm very keen to start learning some Basque, but that will be a whole other (non-Duo) kettle of fish!
― brain (krakow), Saturday, 4 August 2018 17:29 (seven years ago)
look forward to trying the Hindi one!
― niels, Saturday, 4 August 2018 17:39 (seven years ago)
Think it may turn out to be one of the more useful courses.
― Suspicious Hiveminds (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 4 August 2018 17:43 (seven years ago)
I did a few lessons in the Catalan course, but the audio was quite poor, some first generation speech generator.
― Suspicious Hiveminds (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 4 August 2018 17:50 (seven years ago)
There are certainly some internet resources and even a few apps (I think, I've not tried them yet), but, unsurprisingly, resources do seem a bit thin on the ground, especially if you want to learn from English. This discussion has some pointers: https://www.duolingo.com/comment/13783730 I've found a few additional things (potential online courses, apps), but haven't had a chance to collate them into a list yet.
I'm doing a wine course this month, but hopefully before the end of the year I'll be able to start a little Basque on top of my Spanish. Ideally I'm hoping I can find someone in Glasgow who can give me some basic lessons because I know it'll be a very tough language.
― brain (krakow), Saturday, 4 August 2018 18:03 (seven years ago)
As an aside, I took the Duolingo English Test again last week and my level has dropped 17 points - from 97 to 80 :(
It remains a pretty interesting model for how they could monetise the company going forward, and potentially for how learners of languages other than English could get some ‘currency’ for all their hard work should they extend it in the future, but it’s still the most fundamentally flawed test I think I’ve ever seen.
They’ve professionalised elements of it - there is a browser lockdown for security and the passages of text are no longer copy-pasted from Wikipedia, as far as I can tell - but the most repeated item type remains telling ‘real’ words from ‘fake’ ones, which is a ridiculous way to check language proficiency. Other parts of the test (describe image, gap-fill of text) are so obscure or badly done as to make it extremely difficult for even native speakers to respond properly.
― Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Sunday, 5 August 2018 06:38 (seven years ago)
I’d like to believe that the team writing that test has little or nothing to do with the teams writing the courses.‘Real’ vs. ‘fake’ sounds more like a test for dyslexia than a proficiency test.
― Suspicious Hiveminds (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 August 2018 06:54 (seven years ago)
Mijn naam is haas, ik weet van niets
― Suspicious Hiveminds (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 August 2018 12:21 (seven years ago)
OderMein Name ist Hase, ich weiß von nichts.
― Suspicious Hiveminds (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 August 2018 13:26 (seven years ago)
https://youtu.be/kbgWk5Nl4hw
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 11 August 2018 19:18 (seven years ago)
Hartelijk dank!
― Suspicious Hiveminds (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 August 2018 19:45 (seven years ago)
Dank yo!
― F# A# (∞), Saturday, 11 August 2018 19:47 (seven years ago)
Niks te danken!
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 11 August 2018 20:31 (seven years ago)
Graag gedaan!
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 11 August 2018 20:32 (seven years ago)
En: graag de tekst uit je hoofd leren voor maandag ;-)
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 11 August 2018 20:46 (seven years ago)
Hindi (grammar) notes and tips start one lesson before the first checkpoint and end with the second checkpoint.
― Blecch, where is thy Zing? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 12 August 2018 18:07 (seven years ago)
So they finally added Tips (&Notes) to the app, although I can only see for Spanish and Chinese. Although App Store says that they also added Tips for French but I can’t find those.
― The Great Atomic Power Ballad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 September 2018 11:41 (seven years ago)
Indonesian seems to have shown up recently
― St Etienne Is Real (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 15 September 2018 22:00 (seven years ago)
Jaké jsou tvoje cíle?
― Harper Valley CTA-102 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 11:08 (seven years ago)
Finally finished Hungarian.
― Harper Valley CTA-102 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 6 October 2018 00:51 (seven years ago)
Waarom zijn de bananen krom?
― Harper Valley CTA-102 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 20 October 2018 04:35 (seven years ago)
Dutch Duolingo appears to radiate a definite 70s vibe for some reason:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RyRRjl39rI
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 20 October 2018 09:25 (seven years ago)
Ha! They also hadHeb jij ooit een rechte banaan gezien?
― Harper Valley CTA-102 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 20 October 2018 10:24 (seven years ago)
i have been so bad at this for so long
the owl sometimes waves sadly at me from my phone but i ignore
― mark s, Saturday, 20 October 2018 10:29 (seven years ago)
We miss you, Mark S. Do you still want to learn Welsh?
― Harper Valley CTA-102 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 20 October 2018 10:44 (seven years ago)
i still want to learn everything! maybe when my book is out in the world and out of my head (just a few more weeks i hope) (i also haven't played the piano all year!)
― mark s, Saturday, 20 October 2018 10:46 (seven years ago)
We haven’t seen you in a while. Take a 5 minute lesson now!
― Harper Valley CTA-102 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 20 October 2018 13:31 (seven years ago)