iyo did facebook ruin the internet?

does this post contain hate speech

heh

https://boingboing.net/2018/04/30/the-biology-of-disinformatio.html

Probably wrong thread, but I've been using the new sidebar feature "On This Day" to delete content daily from my profile.

Definitely.

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/bjpqw4/facebook-fires-employee-stalk-women-online

On this day isnt new, thats been a thing for some years now hasnt it?

PS did the "report hate speech" button really disappear on give feedback for some people? I am now wondering, is it an american thing only?

oof

New from me: Facebook employees get what’s called a ‘Sauron alert’ when a colleague accesses their personal profile. Meanwhile, regular users have no idea if a Facebook employee logs into their account. https://t.co/agox8Hvt8S

— Deepa Seetharaman (@dseetharaman) May 3, 2018

When using the internal software, Facebook employees must give a legitimate reason for accessing the profile; the explanations are read by managers later. It is considered best to have written permission, former employees said.

oh okay cool sounds airtight

the Sauron alert

found this v helpful btw https://www.reddit.com/r/simpleliving/comments/5ytjar/how_to_disable_facebook_news_feed/

works perfectly, a week with no newsfeed = no FB use apart from checking a few events, texting a bit on the messenger app

works perfectly, a week with no newsfeed = no FB use apart from checking a few events, texting a bit on the messenger app

Has anyone used Mastodon? Doesn’t seem to work unless from the start you know other people who use it, but I’m not sure.

I do. It's Twitter though, not Facebook.

thanks for posting that niels

well i'll give them credit for having a better understanding of the "lord of the rings" movies than peter thiel's "palantir"

http://nymag.com/selectall/2018/05/i-dont-know-how-to-waste-time-on-the-internet-anymore.html

come to ilxor.com buddy

ha that's what i was thinking

But … I didn’t know how. I did not know what to type into the address bar of my browser. I stared at the cursor. Eventually, I typed “nytimes.com” and hit enter. Like a freaking dad. The entire world of the internet, one that used to boast so many ways to waste time, and here I was, reading the news. It was even worse than working.

i kinda get what the article's saying, though. i've gone through the process above a hundred times the last few months. A HUNDRED

at the same time, though, otm frogbs. there are still plenty of good places that aren't overrun by corporations

autocomplete is killer for that : (

I'm enjoying the proliferation of topical and/or nonsensical Facebook groups. It's like reverting to chatboard culture. There's the weird little universe of lemgthbook groups, and things like NUMTOT. Having those in my FB feed gives me a lot more interesting and unpredictable experience than if I'm just seeing whatever my friends post.

Ugh numtot

why u hate? I mean, don't go on it if you don't like it, but it's pretty innocuous. I'm just saying that I like the whole mushrooming world of sort of loopy FB groups.

ugggggh god i need a new plugin to block youtube recommendations, all i want to do is watch music videos and youtube keeps recommending me "JORDAN PETERSON OWNS SJWS", i'm reporting them all as "hateful/abusive" just on the off chance that Youtube will stop recommending me bullshit but i know it will never work. i'm so mad that the plugin i was using got bought out by bitcoin miners.

shit i need to just disconnect from the internet altogether and live out in a cabin in the woods somewhere

i'm so mad that the plugin i was using got bought out by bitcoin miners.

the internet in 2018

From the chief propigator of False News, comes...

https://i.imgur.com/r1Oe9Ak.png

jfc

holy shit mark zuckerberg defends holocaust deniers bc they are not intentionally misleading people...? pic.twitter.com/kfQpp0m3Sa

— cale g weissman (@caleweissman) July 18, 2018

Whole interview is a piece of work

https://www.recode.net/2018/7/18/17575156/mark-zuckerberg-interview-facebook-recode-kara-swisher

"intent" is the congenital centrist's most holy concept: always more important than anything, always unknowable

Intent is magic

- I'm sorry. I wasn't trying to slam this two-by-four into your face, breaking your nose and cheekbones, and knocking several teeth in. I was just trying to kill a fly I thought I saw go past me and your face got in the way before I knew what I was doing.

- Well, then, if you didn't really mean to do it, it's ok.

mensch rea

he's incredibly stupid

'intent' is for the rich

Ah, remorse:

I enjoyed our conversation yesterday, but there’s one thing I want to clear up. I personally find Holocaust denial deeply offensive, and I absolutely didn’t intend to defend the intent of people who deny that.

Our goal with fake news is not to prevent anyone from saying something untrue — but to stop fake news and misinformation spreading across our services. If something is spreading and is rated false by fact checkers, it would lose the vast majority of its distribution in News Feed. And of course if a post crossed line into advocating for violence or hate against a particular group, it would be removed. These issues are very challenging but I believe that often the best way to fight offensive bad speech is with good speech.

Yes, more speech please, so we can profile you and use your donated content to sell more ad impressions.

Why is anybody still on that hideous platform?

It’s worth noting, I think, that recode is quite possibly the most sympathetic outlet they could have picked for this interview, and only a week after their big event ended up mostly pissing people off with its anodyne vagueness.

They have been running full back page adverts here in the UK saying "data misuse is not our friend". the word "misuse" is doing a lot of work there, I guess they don't count all the profiling and targeting they do as misuse.

TV adverts too

This suggests the ad campaign is global - https://www.wired.com/story/facebook-launches-a-new-ad-campaign-with-an-old-message/

I would assume they wouldn't be spending all this money on ass-covering unless they were actually seeing user growth stall or even reverse, so that's good. I want them to go fucking bankrupt.

i am told user growth is in fact reversing, which i'm quite happy about. i'm less happy about the prospect that this growth reversal is apparently benefiting google - robbing peter to pay paul, really

lol there is no way people are dropping their fb accounts and then signing up for g+

Google+ doesn’t convincingly still exist.

The ads look so much like the trailer for The Social Network that I can’t believe it’s an accident.

i didn't say anything about google plus! i'm talking about the newsfeed on android phones.

tbh freedom of speech wrt holocaust denial is a very complex issue

there's really no "correct" answer zuck could have given

Presumably not just about raw numbers reversal but the optics of it too, cant afford not to be main player?

I dont know what the platforms are where growth is strong - I'd presumed youtube and instagram still?

Right but “the best way to fight bad speech is with good speech” is rapidly turning into “guns don’t kill people”, as a statement of “I will ignore all evidence to the contrary”.

The conditions that made what Zuck is saying true (to the extent it ever was) break down into a many-to-many communications situation like that the internet enables. And he knows this. There are studies showing it isn’t true. “Don’t feed the trolls” failed as an approach in 1994.