Avengers: Infinity War

into Thanos's poop?

Other than Wakanda, this was a pretty weirdly unpopulated movie. Lots of heroes standing in empty ships, or on empty planets, or in empty cities. Even the tag at the end ... I can only imagine the intergalactic chaos of half the population disappearing. Avengers 4 is at the very least going to start out on a very depressing note, with cities/civilization ruin.

I can't imagine it will be as fully fleshed out, but I read a chilling thought experiment article once about all of the passive destruction (unregulated nuclear plants, etc.) that would take place if humanity were to just suddenly perish or disappear in one fell swoop.

I'd wonder how long it would take. 36 hours?

he's used to living with aliens who are more efficient at replacing each other in infrastructure roles when half the planet dies

"sorry Humans, I guess this didn't work real well for your planet, but I can't snap my fingers and exclude you guys, it's a package deal. good luck, hope my snap got yr President"

Did Strange's cloak get dusted when he did?

I...think so?

My prediction is that at least but probably just Iron Man sacrifices himself to destroy Thanos in the sequel. Of the heroes, he's the one who won't be back (at least as played by RDJ). Don't think they'll kill Thor or Captain America, but don't know what else they can do with the latter as depicted by Evans. He (the character) would never retire on his own; maybe he will work the farm in Wakanda? Obv. Nebula will play a big(ger) role. She's left on Titan with Iron Man, and she plays a big role in the book. I also think post Thanos these movies will de-escalate the threats a bit to be less than world threatening. Unless they go full Free-Skrull, which ... maybe! I'm trying to think what other huge storylines they could mine, at least minus the Fantastic Four/Doom, who would actually be an idea Big Bad.

I read some stuff online last night about what might or might not happen in #4 and the casual “Yeah Cap’s prob done, iirc Thanos snapped his neck in one of the comics storyline” or “Oh Iron Man is for sure toast” and I’m like:
https://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/nooooooo_luke_skywalker.gif

It's possible Thanos will kill Cap and then Iron Man will sacrifice himself, but there has to be some mechanic that prevents them all from coming back. So my guess is that maybe one (or both) is given the choice to come back and decides, nah, I'm good, for maximum emotional impact. Like, Cap has had a long, lonely life, so maybe. But Iron Man, genius of computer automation, hidden in robot suit, seems like a no-brainer. As of right now, all we know is that Iron Man is particularly important, and he's already had sacrifice discussion with Strange.

The prob is, save Iron Man and Cap, there are not many characters they can kill for good that would have a real emotional impact. Like, Vision? Hawkeye? Who cares. But RDJs Iron Man, it's been pretty clear for a while that it's leading to something.

I'd've thought RDJ would be among those on their way out, but the fake-out near death he experienced in this one leads me to believe they won't follow through in the next. He's probably safe alongside everyone who took a powder (sorry, couldn't resist) at the end. Cap, though...

Looks like they may soon be addressing questions about where the next movie fits in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-l7TOYJZBtI

i legit cried in Infinity War when RDJ got stabbed ;_;

Kinda love how everybody's just so super-casual about the fact that Tony has a suit comprised of nanobots now. Oh, and they can also apparently heal him after he gets impaled by a demigod, nbd.

The extent of anyone's injuries in these movies is always more than a tad nebulous.

This needs to be immortalized

Thanos: I’m so sorry, little one pic.twitter.com/fFqInRBntS

— Daniel wasn’t ready for Infinity War (@DDaniel_200) April 30, 2018

"there's an antman and a spiderman?!"

are thanos and cable (x-men/deadpool ii)related infinity stone or otherwise?

Not related at all cinematically, and I can't recall any real interaction between them in the comics. Come to think of it, I've never seen them in the same room together...

I'd wonder how long it would take. 36 hours?Took about three seasons on Last Man on Earth

Aaaaaand here come the memes!

"Superintendent, I don't feel so good." pic.twitter.com/3XeOXHctp5

— Ice (@IceSeason101) April 30, 2018

the arc of the meme universe is long, but it bends towards steamed hams

In the absence of justice, I will settle for hams.

Lots here, some pretty funny:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/apos-don-apos-t-feel-204920584.html

http://i68.tinypic.com/nd7rs9.jpg

guilty lol

https://i.redditmedia.com/cMzLDa4wvrKIuE-kcgcKd7bFmlLON_CiRMkS1vDUYE4.jpg?w=785&s=1899523e816aa3268e6b4b5a7e098343

oh my fuck

Good

"once again I am being attacked for presenting new ideas" pic.twitter.com/iCoxTBjsSt

— Justin Yandell (@ShotgunZen) May 2, 2018

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https://secure.i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03138/Trivialpursuit-pie_3138286c.jpg

So ... close ...

just saw this and...

my wife pointed out that doc strange's willingness to give up the time gem, and his justification that this was the way it had to be, must be because when he looked into the divergent timelines this is what happened in the only timeline where the heroes win

I'd estimate that about 90% of the Thanos stories end where his defeat is contingent on confronting his inability to accept a win. You've got to let him win. The rest will figure itself out.

some combination of this seems otm

tho if the gauntlet is ruined, does he actually still have the unlimited power that he believes he doesn't deserve?

Remember that Rocket Rabbit almost certainly has a spare gauntlet in the trunk of his ship.

And the joke will likely be that he's had one there for years, and no one asked.

https://mashable.com/2018/04/29/new-yorker-avengers-infinity-war/

I thought Anthony Lane reviewed it? Anyway, RB is just one in a long line of weird pseudo contrarians who profess to know everything about movies except when they pretend they don't.

We loved this. It was amazing watching in the theater during Act V, when we all went from whoops and giggles to being a bunch of extended family sitting in around a hospital bed.

I’ll catch up on the thread this weekend so I can yell at everyone for being wrong and not paying attention.

I kept thinking abt all the sad little kids in the car on the ride home after the movie...and the ensuing “murky” conversations

“So...Black Panther is dead now?”
“No buddy, he’s just kinda...disappeared. Cap & Iron Man will find a way to get him back.”
“So... Does that mean you’ll find a way to make grandma come back?”
*parent quietly curses Marvel*

This kinda reminded me of the first act of the original animated Transformers movie.

this was great. i lol'd at Pratt doing Hemsworth. also Thor's line about being 1500 years old and Thanos being one in a long line of enemies was good.

My guess is Cap dies and Iron Man retires for good - there was too much set up about the wedding for that not to come through later on. Do we think Loki will come back? His death seemed a bit perfunctory given his fan favourite status.

They'll cheese it somehow. Like, Loki will come back but finally realize the error of his ways or something and will pledge to rebuild Asgard while Thor is galavanting about the universe. That gets him out of the way while leaving the possibility that he can cause trouble later.

Nothing new to add, but this was fun. It made me want to go back and fill in some of the Marvel films I've missed.

Spiderman getting ashed was the punch in the gut.

The strike against Stark retiring is that Stark has retired at the end of like half of the movies in which he's appeared.

Yeah, he's done for, if only because they've almost killed him a couple of times, he's been haunted by his NYC vision or whatever, Strange knows they need him to beat Thanos, and last because the actor is in the suit with a mask he could be anyone.

Prognosticating about who is definitely dead for really real seems thoroughly boring. The best outcome is guessing correctly and then being bored when it happens?

Notes:

* I can't believe I was worried that they wouldn't flesh out Thanos properly. I remember one of the Russo brothers mentioning this was a Thanos movie, and Brolin said as much in a couple of interviews, but I didn't know how they would fit that in since I assumed the whole movie would be leading up to one big fight with Thanos. Instead, there's only three scraps with Thanos, only one of which is actually a decent matchup, on Titan with the Guardians & the two nerds in power suits. I appreciated his Malthusian rationalization and that he extrapolates anecdata from his home planet's experience as if that's how it has to be for everyone, everywhere. Nicely reactionary & completely egotistical, a very good Thanos. You can tell Brolin really got into trying to play him as sympathetically as possible.

* I knew he was going to kill half of everybody. I think all of us knew how this movie had to end. Or was there really

* The whole forging-of-Stormbreaker side quest wasn't great for pacing and time, maybe, but I think it was necessary for the payoff when Thor finally shows up on Earth. My favorite part of the movie was when Banner shouted "oh, you guys are screwed now!" and I think my second favorite part of the movie was Groot deciding he needed to be the axe handle he wanted to see in the world.

* There's about sixty or seventy other bits in this movie tied for my third and fourth favorite things. Starlord yelling "boom" and flipping off Thanos while he falls backward through a portal, just about everything Peter Parker says, getting to see Wakanda and all the awesome Wakanda people so soon. I wish the women had more funny stuff, it seems like all the good jokes went to dudes.

* I can't believe Neanderthal hasn't boasted about being completely right about Loki eating it in the beginning of the film (although I guess "first 40 minutes" seems like hitting the side of a barn when you account for how quickly he actually gets murked)

arrgh - second bullet is supposed to say

"Or was there really a lot of uncertainty or just plain ignorance of what Thanos does with the Infinity Gauntlet once he has it? Or that he might not get to do it in this installment?"

There's a motif in this of the heroes repeatedly not really "getting" or empathizing with Thanos, saying he "cares about nothing"...Gamora most explicitly. They don't really know who/what they're dealing with because they just assume he's like the other more one-dimensional villains they've faced.

Not sure what to make of it but it's definitely something that's underlined multiple times. Alongside the theme of confronting the heroes with choosing between the greater good and their own personal attachments (with Quill failing most spectacularly) it's an interesting idea and I'm curious to see how it's developed in the next one.