Sopranos

there are a bunch of (usually minor) recurring characters who are only partially introduced when they initially appear

it's funny, I think the wiki entries take a lot from scripts and other sources, cuz that dude is definitely never referred to as "Buffalo Ray" on-screen

(spoilers)

The revelation that he's [** *********] is one of the more fascinating mysteries of the show, since they never really explain when or how or if there's any consequences from it (I'm not sure there ever were? At least not on screen; possible it would have had consequences down the line)

Seitz and Sepinwall have a new book imminent, The Sopranos Sessions. Related a NYC Sopranos film fest that features both The Public Enemy and Barry Lyndon, along with more direct content:

http://www.ifccenter.com/series/the-sopranos-film-festival/

the authors speak:

We didn’t get him to admit Tony died or anything like that. He was saying that the original intention was to have intimations that Tony died, but he moved away from that to something more philosophical in nature. But David would talk about things being intentional without really being intentional. I asked him: Is it possible that a lifetime of consuming gangster films where heroes die at the end left a flavor? And he said, “That’s possible.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/30/books/sopranos-sessions-matt-zoller-seitz-alan-sepinwall-interview.html

Has anyone here even mentioned Chase's upcoming Sopranos prequel flick?

It centers on Christopher's father, says Mike Imperioli.

the name of that Seitz/Sepinwall book sends me looking for the "irrationally angry" thread

on that movie

https://deadline.com/2019/01/the-sopranos-david-chase-20th-anniversary-prequel-film-tony-soprano-the-many-saints-of-newark-1202530544/

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dwk-gKeUUAAiuI-.jpg

was this the best four minutes of telly ever?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g77BFazbwkU

im watching this show for the first time right now

it takes a while to get its footing

there's some hilariously un-sopranoish stuff at the beginning. tony and christopher riding after a guy in broad daylight in front of literally hundreds of people and beating him up in a really cartoonish way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IsyuTZq3cw

yeah it's almost like a different show for at least a few episodes

I agree. It's that scene I posted where it switches to great. (don't get me wrong there are great things in season one)

The show was often cartoonish, eg Van Zandt. That's not nec a problem.

btw Chase said his original feature film concept was for deNiro, and Anne Bancroft as the mother

(never mind that she was about 12 years older than RdN)

did you just straight up lift that gripe from the graduate

I’m only on like episode 4 but im already loving it

peaks at ep 5 fyi give up after that

she was 5 years older than Hoffman

and her birth name was Anna Italiano

Stay on for the college episode at least.

^^^def where the show starts hitting it's stride

Skip the episode "A Hit is a Hit."

i unintentionally skipped that episode when i revisited the show last year

what's so bad about it? (I have no particular memory of that episode)

Hesh is good in it. NJ rockband shit is hilarious.

the college episode is the one where Meadow asks Tony if he's in the mafia?

My Sopranos story is that last week I saw a complete Sopranos box-set in a charity shop and bought it immediately. I visited my 83 y.o. mum and left the box there by accident. She phoned me to say that she'd watched six episodes in one night "it's a bit violent but it's a good story", oh my days. She's nearly at the end of season two now.

Ha, that's cool!

Yes and lol

Xp

I think I need to be there to talk her through the last episode when she gets to it (which won't be long at this rate).

Glaswegian Mammy gets into the Sopranos. I wish we had emojis on here, sometimes.

Jim will enjoy that one, i think!

tony says something hilarious in the very first scene when melfis prodding him about being in waste management he just nots and goes "the environment"

Xp. I do enjoy it

the one aspect of this show that is perfect/fully formed right out the gate is Livia and her relationship to Tony. She really anchors the first season.

great story, jed

ask what she thinks of Paulie

the show has enabled to answer "Sopranos country" when asked where i'm from

great story, jed

ask what she thinks of Paulie

I'll ask her after she's watched the Pine Barrens episode!

I’ve been enjoying watching this concurrently with seemingly half of twitter

the sopranos is early costco-core, fruit bowl-wave, mcmansion gothic

— Patricia Lockwood (@TriciaLockwood) January 23, 2019

sounds like ppl not from exotic New Jersey, alright

i think s01e10 'a hit is a hit' where Adriana becomes a music manager for shitty grunge band is the first dud episode yet

there's clumsy stuff in that episode but there are a couple things I like: 1) Adriana's delusional devotion to such a ridiculously shitty band, and 2) the way the conflict with Massive Genius gets resolved; once he and Hesh both see this is just gonna be settled in court w lawyers they're like "eh, whatever"

lol at Christopher throwing a bag of coke at the band and beating the shit out of one of them to get them back in the booth

how bad the band sucks is pretty funny

why dont carm and tony ever smash? edie falco is smoking hot

they have a bad relationship

i think s01e10 'a hit is a hit' where Adriana becomes a music manager for shitty grunge band is the first dud episode yet