iyo did facebook ruin the internet?

Was that implied in any way? Some of these jibes are off the mark.

i think i'd stay in pretty good touch with my friends without Facebook -- i think another drawback of FB is also it fills your feed with information from the people you know (or knew, or worked with once) but aren't friends with, and just seemingly gives it the same weight as family members or the people you're actually friends with. maybe the algorithm fixes that, who knows, but i don't trust it.

As a side note, Quebec is more North American than French in this regard.

xp

I wasn't being serious – there are plenty of people I call tu who aren't even remotely my friends. But then again, I live in Quebec, where the T-V distinction isn't quite as ingrained as it is in France, though when I was there, I certainly never referred to my classmates as vous except when they implicitly insisted on it (they generally wore their bourgeois Catholic background on their sleeve).

Haha, I getcha. I would still just say that it seems like the French are the exception here, not the Americans. In my experience, anyway. And that if the word is such a hurdle, just register it as "I'd lose a lot of copains if I quit", surely that'd still be a bummer?

some may drink deep the cup of friendship mead while you merely shotgun the can of casual acquaintanceship

― omar little, Wednesday, April 11, 2018 11:00 AM (fifty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

In rural Southern Minnesota, I was raised on cans of Busch Light, the friendship of beer

As a side note, Quebec is more North American than French in this regard.

freedom friends

you guys are giving facebook tedium a real run for its money with all this "friend" talk.

Guilty as charged.

lol, i'm just bored today. i think i have a case of the wednesdays. luv u all.

not every day can hold the excitement of old men asking zuck how interweb works.

Tubes. It's a series of tubes.

I feel like a lot of people just didnt use the internet much at all, not socially anyway, til FB's expansion made it the thing they got on board with.

Cos I come from a background where my actual, IRL social group also always communicated online - have done since the mid-late 90s! - via Usenet and Livejournal. That lot mostly then moved to Twitter and refuse to touch FB. As I dont use twitter (I just dont get it, it annoys me), Ive actually lost touch with the day to day of a heap of my actual IRL friends :/ So fuck FB cos this was already happening to me 5 years or more back.

Hahah which I suppose means my answer to the thread is "yes. yes it did".

i wish everyone would quit facebook and join are.na. you can search for me there under my name. you create "channels" (general topics, like "minimalism" or "things that look like butts" or "media criticism") which contain "blocks". blocks are links to things, images, files, etc. you can take anyone else's "block" and add it to any of your own channels. you set the privacy level of each channel you make - you can make it private, you can set it to public/closed (which means others can see your channel but can't edit it), or public/open (which means other people can add blocks to it).

it is tiny and awesome and they're not surveilling you. just join in addition to facebook and get used to another place to share things with people that isn't brazenly fucking you over all the time.

it is one of the best 2 sites on the internet

for people who only use facebook for work/promotion of events, i think are.na would actually work BETTER for it. the only thing it's lacking is 2 billion users to make it ubiquitous, sad lol

(zach scott, not karl malone)

for me it's less of a social media network and more of a way to catalog your own interests and make connections to other related things posted by other people. but you can comment on any "block", you can follow other users, there's a feed that shows what new channels and blocks people have created, you can establish "private channels" with other people. anyway, i'll stop evangelizing. i am an annoying chronic complainer about the lameness of today's internet, and this is an example of a place that is good. it's pretty old, actually (i had an account there 4 years ago and forgot about it, then remembered it again a month or so ago and was astounded at all the improvements they had made), but still newish

I'm interested but isn't it a pinterest clone at its core? (please tell me it's not)

i don't know! i've never used pinterest. i really hate the visual aesthetic of pinterest though, while are.na's is very good (imo)

okay i just tried it for about 10 minutes and couldn't figure out how to do anything. won't be back. i can see the nerd appeal it might have though and it was good at keeping people like me out. which is a good strategy.

lol
yeah it has a bit of a learning curve. the things that are a bit confusing at first (e.g., some text being green, purple, or red) are the things that actually make it less confusing later on (green text is for open channels, purple text is for closed channels, red text is private stuff that only you can see)

last words on it, sorry: make sure to try out www.are.na, not www.arena.com, which appears to be some sort of music subscription service

ello

i know, i know. i own an OUYA. :-/

but i like to try new things and think that it's possible to do better than facebook

Google+ didnt work. Ello didnt work. People laugh at Livejournal even tho that does/did a lot of what people want. I dont know why FB and Twitter have succeeded where others havent but Scott might be onto something when he went "too confusing gave up" right away.

I dont think I want something like FB. Or twitter. I want something more like ILX, and the closest I feel I can get to that is Reddit of all things?

might sound weird coming from a (for the most part) lurker, but ILX is enough for me.

does this post contain hate speech

heh

https://boingboing.net/2018/04/30/the-biology-of-disinformatio.html

Probably wrong thread, but I've been using the new sidebar feature "On This Day" to delete content daily from my profile.

Definitely.

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/bjpqw4/facebook-fires-employee-stalk-women-online

On this day isnt new, thats been a thing for some years now hasnt it?

PS did the "report hate speech" button really disappear on give feedback for some people? I am now wondering, is it an american thing only?

oof

New from me: Facebook employees get what’s called a ‘Sauron alert’ when a colleague accesses their personal profile. Meanwhile, regular users have no idea if a Facebook employee logs into their account. https://t.co/agox8Hvt8S

— Deepa Seetharaman (@dseetharaman) May 3, 2018

When using the internal software, Facebook employees must give a legitimate reason for accessing the profile; the explanations are read by managers later. It is considered best to have written permission, former employees said.

oh okay cool sounds airtight

the Sauron alert

found this v helpful btw https://www.reddit.com/r/simpleliving/comments/5ytjar/how_to_disable_facebook_news_feed/

works perfectly, a week with no newsfeed = no FB use apart from checking a few events, texting a bit on the messenger app

works perfectly, a week with no newsfeed = no FB use apart from checking a few events, texting a bit on the messenger app

Has anyone used Mastodon? Doesn’t seem to work unless from the start you know other people who use it, but I’m not sure.

I do. It's Twitter though, not Facebook.

thanks for posting that niels

well i'll give them credit for having a better understanding of the "lord of the rings" movies than peter thiel's "palantir"

http://nymag.com/selectall/2018/05/i-dont-know-how-to-waste-time-on-the-internet-anymore.html

come to ilxor.com buddy

ha that's what i was thinking

But … I didn’t know how. I did not know what to type into the address bar of my browser. I stared at the cursor. Eventually, I typed “nytimes.com” and hit enter. Like a freaking dad. The entire world of the internet, one that used to boast so many ways to waste time, and here I was, reading the news. It was even worse than working.

i kinda get what the article's saying, though. i've gone through the process above a hundred times the last few months. A HUNDRED

at the same time, though, otm frogbs. there are still plenty of good places that aren't overrun by corporations

autocomplete is killer for that : (

I'm enjoying the proliferation of topical and/or nonsensical Facebook groups. It's like reverting to chatboard culture. There's the weird little universe of lemgthbook groups, and things like NUMTOT. Having those in my FB feed gives me a lot more interesting and unpredictable experience than if I'm just seeing whatever my friends post.

Ugh numtot