Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

Terrible.

In descending order of my expectation: an alt-righter angered by YT setting Alex Jones one strike away from being banned over conspiracy nonsense > an alt-righter angered by YT banning some white supremacist or gun nut video > other species of basement dweller angered by changes to YT's monetization formula > any other disgruntled YT denizen > disgruntled employee, foreign terrorism.

http://abc7news.com/source-active-shooter-multiple-injuries-at-youtube-hq/3297411/

Another law enforcement source confirms to ABC7 News reporter Dan Noyes that the shooter is a white, adult female wearing a dark top and head scarf.

I expect the reverse probably, Sanpaku, but who knows really...

Statement shortly

San Bruno Police Chief Barberini will be making a statement at 2:30pm. Media staging area is at the corner of Traeger Ave. at Bayhill Dr. in San Bruno.

— San Bruno Police (@SanBrunoPolice) April 3, 2018

#YouTube shooting: Multiple witnesses tell KTVU the shooter was a woman who shot herself after shooting her boyfriend. Police have not confirmed those details. https://t.co/wGGTF7wiOS pic.twitter.com/Tf7hCXJ2o4

— KTVU (@KTVU) April 3, 2018

Stanford Medical Center says it has received four to five patients.

*dices with posting a Bojack Horseman clip*

*you all know the one I mean anyway, so I won't*

https://www.apnews.com/3c7250eb9d824a5b921939eb4c82fb1e/The-Latest:-YouTube-shooting-suspect-animal-rights-activist

The father of a woman suspected of shooting three people at YouTube’s headquarters says she was angry at the company because it stopped paying her for videos she posted on the platform.

Ismail Aghdam told the Bay Area News Group that he warned police his daughter, Nasim Aghdam, might be going to YouTube because she “hated” the company.

a MONETIZATION beef?!?

Where is a good place to find gun ownership stats/data?

I'd read(somewhere, I forget where now), that ownership is concentrating - fewer people owning guns but the people who buy them are buying more of them? I don't know if this is true or even accurately measurable, but if it is would be good to tinker around with that data seeing how it maps with direct NRA influence in each state (county?)

https://youtu.be/_OkhHUXWNJA

Weird throwing the exercise bit in there.

cherry blossom:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/09/19/just-three-percent-of-adults-own-half-of-americas-guns/

Thanks El Tomboto! I had seen that one before, in fact thats probably what I'd read that made me start thinking about this more. I'd like to see this split out by state, and also over time since Columbine. I suppose we have to rely on survey takers, which, as the article suggests, isn't perfect.

I wonder if NRA membership numbers might be a good measure, if thats available - though it seems doubtful that it would include locale information

that's weird i was thinking to myself on the drive home yesterday maybe she was mad about monetization. i didn't think that would be true.

here’s the archive.org cache of her site

http://web.archive.org/web/20170101000000*/www.nasimesabz.com

How does this not happen every day, instead of every other week.

Where is a good place to find gun ownership stats/data?

If there is no national registry and there are so many ways to be sneaky about buying a gun (and one presumes many gun owners may be more reluctant than most to share info about whether or not they have a gun in the first place), how can they know how many guns are out there and how they are consolidated? The data could be wildly off in every direction.

Which is a really comforting thought. How many hand-held murder machines are floating around out there? Well, we can only guesstimate.

It’s in the 2nd, man. When they said “the Constitution is not a suicide pact,” what they meant is “actually, it’s a murder-suicide pact, don’t deal with it, it’s sacred.”

srsly, i regret posting that, sorry. grr.

If there is no national registry and there are so many ways to be sneaky about buying a gun (and one presumes many gun owners may be more reluctant than most to share info about whether or not they have a gun in the first place), how can they know how many guns are out there and how they are consolidated? The data could be wildly off in every direction.

Yes, looks like this isn't a fruitful direction. NRA membership stats/data might work, though whether they publish that is another problem (particularly if it were to undermine their position of influence and power)

NRA stats are bullshit. It is reportedly hard as hell to extricate yourself from a lifetime membership, so they are just listing all these people as members who really aren't. Kind of like the classic Mormon church.

how can they know how many guns are out there and how they are consolidated? The data could be wildly off in every direction.

On consolidation, perhaps, though I think the number of people who'd lie to polls is fairly small and the consolidation trend predates the hyper-paranoia of the gun culture post-2000.
On guns in existence, even wildly off wouldn't be that telling. Is there a meaningful difference in 200 million vs 300 million in telling people how to proceed?

From a rhetorical standpoint it might.

"I've heard there there are millions of guns in the United States. I bet most of you didn't bring any here tonight. I bet most of you don't have any at home, either. I bet most of you that have one at home don't keep it loaded. So who are we protecting? Which of you has a gun with you, with ammunition? That's not a lot of you. So if there are so many guns in our country, how come so many of us don't have any?"

etc fucking writes itself

fwiw, I had the misfortune of being present at that building yesterday(it is my place of work), although thankfully I was far away from the incident. Not something I would want to live through again.

Separately, I've been prodding my mother to dispose of a handgun my slowly-fading-into-dementia father bought long ago. This is surprisingly difficult, especially since state required licenses lapsed years ago. One thing we should do is make gun disposal always easy everywhere.

I was always nervous that the v old colt in my dad's closet lockbox would come to a bad end for him/us, esp as he faded into dementia. he's in memory care now, years later. Anyway at one family-style division of property sesh, I saw the small metal box brought out. I figured the pistol was still in there, and had little idea which kid or in-law would want it- def not i. i don't think many, or evenly any, knew the gun was there. we all awaited the box being opened. after some embarrassed manipulation my very elderly dad shrugged and said "I have no idea what's in there or why it's locked.it's a mysterious old box that was in my closet, I've never opened it" (obviously untrue, he would occasionally show it, and the contents, to younger me). Nobody knew the combo, we all looked around. So I stepped forward and tried my first guess, and opened the box. the colt was there. It was claimed by my brother-in-law.

seconding everyone who had the immediate “someone angry about video monetization” thought, because of the online video socialization index

I just don’t get guns. It’s a normal part of life for a number of people, because there are any number of reasons: someone might be born into a family with hunters, ex-military, sport shooters, or some relative who had a pistol and it was just a known quantity. But any time I am in a room, I feel infinitely safer if I believe there are no guns there, and infinity plus one if I know it. Sitting in my bedroom right now in that situation.

I work not far from a national guard facility and cops go there for training all the time. So if I go out for lunch, I see sherrifs, cops from around the state, and national guard people in uniform and it’s interesting to see (and worrying) who keeps their gun on their belt regardless of whether they’re on duty at home or eating a burrito halfway across the state.

i feel the same way when I'm out at McDonalds or something and see three security guards all with their guns on their belt, not reassuring

do any of you see armed people like non cops when you’re out? I haven’t been back to the USA in three years but I’m gonna visit next year and im dreading seeing gun people out

saw one at a grocery store a while back

ironically I wound up stealing a vegetable on accident (yes I went back and paid for it) but not before having visions of this 20 year old get wasting me in the parking lot for shoplifting

hardly ever but i think ohio is a concealed carry state so i just assume that people are likely armed

I think it very much depends on where in the US you might go. Like when I lived in AZ I'd see random dudes walking around with a holster, but I haven't seen that anywhere else I've lived.

I live in LA and the most armed people I see regularly are guards outside of Synagogues. I think in response to this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Jewish_Community_Center_shooting

I can't think of the last time I've seen someone armed who wasn't a cop tbh

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/San-Jose-Family-Comes-Home-to-Find-Estranged-Son-Stole-Their-Shotgun-Left-Manifesto-to-Attack-SF-478892723.html

Uh, this guy is currently in the wind.

ok thanks

my mom told me recently about eating at applebees in their dumb suburb of atl & the people next to them had their handguns on the table & it was really jarring for me, like, people live this way in "civilized" places? ugh.

hey, in uncivilized places they hold them under the table

if he has a shitload of tattoos up and down his arms he looks an awful lot like the guy I saw hogtied by the Emeryville PD this morning on San Pablo ave

def see the occasional sidearm out here in nm, but not as frequently as what i experienced in montana

idk I guess that's not helpful. it's weird as hell, all of it

Dont see it in the northern front range of CO personally.

they have guns that shoot out ink to tye-dye the squares iirc

I'm (pleasantly) surprised that I don't see guns on people in and around Chicago. Last time I was really forced to acknowledge one was when I was following a cop up the stairs to the L and realized the exposed barrel of his holstered weapon was pointed pretty much between my eyes. It was...sobering.

One thing we should do is make gun disposal always easy everywhere.

― fajita seas, Wednesday, April 4, 2018 10:31 PM (yesterday)

a large federal buyback program makes a lot of sense to me

Texas legalized open carry but I haven’t noticed a single person actually doing so. Maybe in redder areas but I’ve barely set foot in rura Texas over the last couple of years.

Had a guy throw a fit the day I installed the no open carry signs in my stores but not a peep since.

did he actually have a gun or no?

I was in some east Dallas suburbs years ago and there were some “no guns allowed in the establishment” signs on some restaurants, I think? it was also a dry county

i have never seen anyone open carry in west texas

did he actually have a gun or no?

I've seen exactly one person open-carrying, once, in a diner in Wisconsin, and he seemed like the sort of peckerwood dork I would make fun of ... if he didn't have a handgun strapped to his body.