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Who cares, I’m just some person. You said it was “obvious” that population growth was the “root cause” of global warming. I don’t think that’s either obvious or true. It seems more likely that population growth is the consequence of industrial exploitation of fossil fuels, rather than the cause of it. But climate change and human ecology are both famously nonlinear dynamic systems so I think it’s even more plausible to suppose they mutually cause and are caused by each other.

valorous wokelord (silby), Sunday, 1 April 2018 04:23 (eight years ago)

if we're talking about reducing carbon footprint impacts a few less babies goes further than anything? i guess i realize it would be a disaster to try and mandate it but at a personal level i think it's morally wrong to have more than two children. also i think our conception of the nuclear family as this blood-defined, sacred untouchable thing is holding us back.

xp ok that seems plausible

map, Sunday, 1 April 2018 04:30 (eight years ago)

it's incredibly selfish and irresponsible to have kids

flappy bird, Sunday, 1 April 2018 04:55 (eight years ago)

as all your parents proved

El Tomboto, Sunday, 1 April 2018 05:06 (eight years ago)

sorry, not controversial, I'll take it to the second thought about thread from here on out

ps y'all are drunk, right?

El Tomboto, Sunday, 1 April 2018 05:09 (eight years ago)

I don't drink

flappy bird, Sunday, 1 April 2018 05:23 (eight years ago)

Me neither

valorous wokelord (silby), Sunday, 1 April 2018 05:29 (eight years ago)

I meant map and flappy. “why not just shrink the population in a humane way, like by forcing people to limit their family to a certain size?” just seems like Saturday night influenced talk to me

El Tomboto, Sunday, 1 April 2018 05:40 (eight years ago)

nah i'm not into that, i just think it's existentially irresponsible

flappy bird, Sunday, 1 April 2018 06:12 (eight years ago)

I think the current war on plastic packaging, especially straws, is 90% about making people feel better that they are doing nothing about climate change.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 1 April 2018 08:55 (eight years ago)

could apply that to 99% of consumer-based efforts toward sustainability tbh

bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 April 2018 09:52 (eight years ago)

You’re all doing that Doug Stanhope bit now?

El Tomboto, Sunday, 1 April 2018 12:15 (eight years ago)

Hoppy IPAs are among life's few true joys and the hipster backlash is ridiculous in a world that is still ruled by Anheuser-Busch.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 1 April 2018 14:15 (eight years ago)

OK I'm going to have to fight you here

The backlash is a mere matter of taste. Some of us who have laboured under the tyranny of hoppy IPAs (ie tried to drink in pubs in England) are now increasingly free to choose other options and that is a good thing

imago, Sunday, 1 April 2018 14:22 (eight years ago)

I have to assume England is pretty different if hoppy IPAs have ever been anything close to mainstream, let alone dominant. Fans of mediocre lagers have never been at a loss on this side of the Atlantic.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 1 April 2018 14:26 (eight years ago)

some of us just wanna get drunk efficiently

bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 April 2018 14:27 (eight years ago)

mediocre lagers don't even register. often the hoppy IPA is the only conscionable choice

imago, Sunday, 1 April 2018 14:28 (eight years ago)

get some fucking Stella darn you, you hard water drinking metropolitan 'eete!

calzino, Sunday, 1 April 2018 14:31 (eight years ago)

If you guys are looking for controversial opinions: sedentary, hierarchical human civilization is indefensible. Maybe there's a way to do it sustainably and responsibly but we'll destroy the biosphere before we find that solution.

Arthur Pizzarelli AKA The Peetz (Old Lunch), Sunday, 1 April 2018 14:32 (eight years ago)

not sure that's controversial. how about "I'd rather the world was destroyed than that my life was made less convenient or comfortable"?

bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 April 2018 14:34 (eight years ago)

Overhopped IPAS are the worst but I am not sure if they are worse than Stella.

Yerac, Sunday, 1 April 2018 14:39 (eight years ago)

xpost That works. Our trajectory seems irreversible so civilization is basically just hospice care at this point. Give me temperature control and a TV where I can watch my stories as I fade away.

Arthur Pizzarelli AKA The Peetz (Old Lunch), Sunday, 1 April 2018 14:42 (eight years ago)

Nothing is worse than Stella.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 1 April 2018 14:44 (eight years ago)

Corporate Beer Still Sucks

well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Sunday, 1 April 2018 14:46 (eight years ago)

Consumers of hoppy beers with ABV between 6% and 10% make more accidental babies than lager/pilsner drinking peers, BAN IPA

motorpsycho nightmare winningham (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 1 April 2018 14:47 (eight years ago)

I only drink corporate booze out of class consciousness

bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 April 2018 14:48 (eight years ago)

I'm not even trying to be a controversialist philistine here. I'm happy as a pig in shit supping generic lager brands and cheap wine out of boxes, to the death!

calzino, Sunday, 1 April 2018 14:48 (eight years ago)

as long as generic lager brand doesn't dip below 4.8% abv, it's passes my stringent 1 test!

calzino, Sunday, 1 April 2018 14:50 (eight years ago)

but you can get good cheap wine in a box, the cheap USA lagers at least are all piss

motorpsycho nightmare winningham (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 1 April 2018 14:52 (eight years ago)

tbf Budweiser is piss, but great for making beef stews with.

calzino, Sunday, 1 April 2018 14:53 (eight years ago)

Stella is slightly more rancid piss that is also priced like an import.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 1 April 2018 14:54 (eight years ago)

yeah it is serviceable for cooking in the same way bad wine is xp

motorpsycho nightmare winningham (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 1 April 2018 14:55 (eight years ago)

Also, anyone whose class analysis centres around things like preferences in beer or punctuation rules is basically David Brooks and thus the enemy.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 1 April 2018 14:56 (eight years ago)

it's just how I was raised sir

bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 April 2018 14:57 (eight years ago)

xps
It's very cheap in the UK is Stella. I think about £4.35 a 4 pack in the local Co-op at the mo.

calzino, Sunday, 1 April 2018 14:59 (eight years ago)

Budweiser is slightly less bad than Stella imo

imago, Sunday, 1 April 2018 14:59 (eight years ago)

Beer opinions are the worst.

Jeff, Sunday, 1 April 2018 15:00 (eight years ago)

actually eating wurst can justify a cheap lager

motorpsycho nightmare winningham (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 1 April 2018 15:04 (eight years ago)

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My new jam.

Jeff, Sunday, 1 April 2018 15:05 (eight years ago)

ew

Yerac, Sunday, 1 April 2018 15:09 (eight years ago)

Oh, is that supposed to be an April Fool deal? I remember that place in London, Garlic and Shots where they would squeeze garlic into your lager. It was fine.

Yerac, Sunday, 1 April 2018 15:10 (eight years ago)

Here's a couple of controversial opinions: Human progress has been a great thing, humans are quite fantastic animals, and though it'll undoubtedly be tough, we'll figure out how to avoid the worst of the hypothetical climate scenarios.

Frederik B, Sunday, 1 April 2018 16:44 (eight years ago)

I am on a bus next to a professor of political science who is bloviating to his seatmate about his research, the goal of which is to increase the burden of proof necessary for victims of sexual assault to bring against their aggressors. His rationale is that “young men’s’ lives might be ruined because of spurious accusations.” If I ever heard a challop....

rb (soda), Sunday, 1 April 2018 16:56 (eight years ago)

here's a controversial opinion: nobody actually thinks humans are just animals. look at how people openly treat animals. eating them (exclusively, nobody eats humans even though they are "just animals"), walking them around on a leash; even beloved pets are "put down". also whenever somebody says "we are just apes" they usually follow it up with "look at all we've accomplished, Shakespeare, Picasso, etc." can't help placing humans on a pedestal. anthropocentrism is a helluva drug.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 1 April 2018 16:57 (eight years ago)

i too would like to see cannibalism become more socially acceptable

bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 April 2018 17:02 (eight years ago)

people generally don't eat apes unless there's extreme famine, iirc

mh, Sunday, 1 April 2018 17:07 (eight years ago)

nah bush meat is a thing

bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 April 2018 17:08 (eight years ago)

you want them free range tho, not just out of the local zoo

bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 April 2018 17:09 (eight years ago)

what about if there was an extra box on organ donor cards like "I want to be eaten by foodies in the event of my untimely death"?

bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 April 2018 17:10 (eight years ago)

i reckon i'd make good crackling

bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 April 2018 17:11 (eight years ago)


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