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those dense clouds of smoke in bars. i smoked and they totally grossed me out and would give me a headache. you gotta figure people died for centuries just from public house smoke.

i do kinda miss going to a diner hungover and having my eggs and coffee and cigarettes. but i'm totally glad that doesn't exist anymore.

scott seward, Thursday, 29 March 2018 14:00 (eight years ago)

There is no difference functionally between a ; and a -- and a ... and a .. except levels of formality and familiarity.

No way! There's a huge difference in pacing! One is a slow searching pause, a meaningful rest, a purposeful...moment. The other is in a hurry! It rushes past, a person interrupts themselves with a new thought--and then goes back--without even taking a breath!

Conic section rebellion 44 (in orbit), Thursday, 29 March 2018 14:00 (eight years ago)

The mid-sentence ellipsis is the most irritating shit a person can do in correspondence unless they’re making fun of somebody else who does it, or using it to try and perform a prose impression of Shatner or Brando, which is also irritating but not to the same degree.

If you employ mid-sentence ellipses as part of your personal written idiolect, just be aware that everyone reading it is suffering because of your inability to confidently give your thoughts a beginning, a middle, and an end.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 29 March 2018 14:12 (eight years ago)

...

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 29 March 2018 14:20 (eight years ago)

I didn't realize secondhand drunk/liver damage was a thing.

― Yerac, Thursday, March 29, 2018 9:51 AM (twenty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Secondhand drunk damage is kind of a thing.

Millennial Whoop, wanna fight about it? (Phil D.), Thursday, 29 March 2018 14:22 (eight years ago)

celine is like whatevs...

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/72/84/a3/7284a3d0dfc25f5d45f036aca851e9d8.jpg

scott seward, Thursday, 29 March 2018 14:24 (eight years ago)

xp this is true but I have known quite a few people who make *better* company drunk, while cigarettes cannot be said to improve a personality

motorpsycho nightmare winningham (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 29 March 2018 14:26 (eight years ago)

nicotine totally improves my personality. #meds

scott seward, Thursday, 29 March 2018 14:28 (eight years ago)

ha yes except in case of withdrawal

motorpsycho nightmare winningham (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 29 March 2018 14:29 (eight years ago)

anyway cigarettes and boozel are old pals + mutually complementary

motorpsycho nightmare winningham (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 29 March 2018 14:30 (eight years ago)

I like the smell of some cigarette smoke in open air when it wafts over.

Yerac, Thursday, 29 March 2018 14:30 (eight years ago)

xp boozel = drunk for "booze"

motorpsycho nightmare winningham (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 29 March 2018 14:30 (eight years ago)

Things i just don’t...care about. /shatner

Hunt3r, Thursday, 29 March 2018 15:01 (eight years ago)

smoking in bars seems so long ago and such a foreign concept, but (as I've mentioned before) apparently smoking was banned in bars here *after* friends had facebook accounts. so there are pictures of me sitting around with friends who are smoking that pop up in the flashback posts

mh, Thursday, 29 March 2018 19:18 (eight years ago)

cigarette smoke has such a nostalgic smell for me.... cruising around on our bikes in 5th grade, sneaking back to the railroad tracks or the creek behind the grocery store, we knew all these little secret spots in the woods and even though i never really smoked my friends did and it makes me think of being a nervous 12 year old hanging out w/ the bad kids

marcos, Thursday, 29 March 2018 19:27 (eight years ago)

I miss smoking in bars. OK, not really but it makes me a little nostalgic for a time that seems less complicated. It does seem insane to think about how many shows I smoked at while right in the middle of a crowded audience probably dancing and drunk. It's amazing we didn't all just burn the crap out of one another but maybe we did and I've conveniently forgotten that part.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 29 March 2018 19:31 (eight years ago)

when I visited Raleigh in December 2007 it was the last winter before its smoking ban kicked in, but Florida had gone smoke-less since 2003 and it felt like another century.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 March 2018 19:33 (eight years ago)

I definitely remember getting cig burns on my hand while dancing and from people waving their arms around.

Yerac, Thursday, 29 March 2018 19:34 (eight years ago)

when I was 15 I was with a bunch of friends and we stopped at a park for a cigarette break (since the driver was driving his parents' car). there was six of us and I was the only one who didn't smoke. anyway one of the guy's parents drives by and he freaks out and hands me the cigarette b/c his parents were very much against smoking. I take the bullet but later get lectured by his parents. Good times.

frogbs, Thursday, 29 March 2018 19:35 (eight years ago)

i always kinda envied people who smoked after the smoking ban because it was real easy to kick up a conversation with a woman in a bar that way..."you got a heater??" that worked pretty well for me though it did result in one awkward moment where I had to come clean about not smoking

frogbs, Thursday, 29 March 2018 19:37 (eight years ago)

wait hang on - a "heater"?

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 29 March 2018 19:41 (eight years ago)

that's exactly how he draws them in

Karl Malone, Thursday, 29 March 2018 19:52 (eight years ago)

I would literally prefer being chloroformed into unconsciousness than being around smokers in any context.

Millennial Whoop, wanna fight about it? (Phil D.), Thursday, 29 March 2018 19:53 (eight years ago)

"chloroformed into unconsciousness" i dig that

marcos, Thursday, 29 March 2018 19:54 (eight years ago)

I've never heard "heater" in my life. Ha. I love regional slang. Is that regional? I remember being really confused when the kids at that youth center I worked at asked me for squares. I still don't get where that originates. I have a theory but I have no idea if I'm right.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 29 March 2018 19:57 (eight years ago)

Re: em dashes, I learned from *cough* an editor at Pitchfork, can't remember who *cough* that they as a website prefer their em dashes to have no space before and one space after-- like this-- because it doesn't confuse browsers when they need to change wrap-around points-- the em dash is firmly attached to the word it follows. I like it

And yes yes I am aware that em dashes are distinct from ellipses and semi-colons. However, the thought process that I engage in when selecting which one to employ, and alter my sentence structure to accommodate, is distinctly defined by the level of familiarity I have with the subject and the formality of the content. [moves conversation to the "post a tedious opinion" thread]

nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 29 March 2018 20:17 (eight years ago)

two dashes do not an em dash make

motorpsycho nightmare winningham (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 29 March 2018 20:23 (eight years ago)

I miss smoking in bars but then I was somebody who smoked in bars so I would. Cancer's probably gonna get you anyway

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 29 March 2018 20:26 (eight years ago)

I am very disappointed in all the people who prefer hamburger to pizza in the other thread. I feel like there are some childhood issues there.

Yerac, Thursday, 29 March 2018 20:27 (eight years ago)

I guess my perhaps-not-that-controversial opinion is that copy-editing punctuation pedantry is a sneaky guilt-free way of dismissing the writing of lower-class people who have never even met an editor but have taken the time to work on their writing style, use spell checkers, etc. Not that I'm accusing anyone here of that exactly, at least everyone has the self-awareness to realise that it doesn't really matter.

I've already said all I have to say about boring hamburgers.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 29 March 2018 20:30 (eight years ago)

I've never heard "heater" in my life. Ha. I love regional slang. Is that regional?

lol I guess so

frogbs, Thursday, 29 March 2018 20:33 (eight years ago)

Tbh I did the 2 spaces after a full stop because I was taught to do it and kinda got that impression too but my "class" fwiw is mess anyway.

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 29 March 2018 20:35 (eight years ago)

toilet paper should unspool from underneath, so that the loose end hangs near the wall

motorpsycho nightmare winningham (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 29 March 2018 20:38 (eight years ago)

That is a controversial opinion. And I should know

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 29 March 2018 20:40 (eight years ago)

Only in savages' private homes does toilet paper look like this.

Yerac, Thursday, 29 March 2018 20:40 (eight years ago)

I will die on this hill

motorpsycho nightmare winningham (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 29 March 2018 20:42 (eight years ago)

I couldn't care less if toilet paper hangs over the top or the bottom. I never ever notice this. Who the fuck cares????

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 29 March 2018 20:43 (eight years ago)

Don Henley of the Eagles apparently

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 March 2018 20:44 (eight years ago)

For a split second the thought crossed my mind that maybe Don Henley had died while switching the toilet paper roll.

Yerac, Thursday, 29 March 2018 20:46 (eight years ago)

that's what 'GEt Over It' was about

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 March 2018 20:46 (eight years ago)

ENBB I have been upbraided for this choice, people are vicious

motorpsycho nightmare winningham (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 29 March 2018 20:47 (eight years ago)

I mean in restaurants/hotels/hospitality etc. you definitely have it hanging in the front. The stuff sticks with you.

Yerac, Thursday, 29 March 2018 20:48 (eight years ago)

sometimes, esp on those harder jobs

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 March 2018 20:49 (eight years ago)

toilet paper should unspool from underneath, so that the loose end hangs near the wall

― motorpsycho nightmare winningham (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, March 29, 2018 1:38 PM (eighteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

savagery

valorous wokelord (silby), Thursday, 29 March 2018 20:58 (eight years ago)

I feel like my real controversial opinions are way too assholish for this thread.

Yerac, Thursday, 29 March 2018 20:59 (eight years ago)

Honestly I couldn't give a shit how you hang your tp as long as it exists but I felt obliged

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 29 March 2018 21:11 (eight years ago)

sir yes sir

motorpsycho nightmare winningham (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 29 March 2018 21:13 (eight years ago)

being insensitive to bidet owners tbh

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 March 2018 21:17 (eight years ago)

Aren't you supposed to wipe after using a bidet??? *googling*

Yerac, Thursday, 29 March 2018 21:22 (eight years ago)

I think the super-fancy japanese ones have a blow dry option

mh, Thursday, 29 March 2018 21:23 (eight years ago)


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