S/D: Gay movies of arty qualities

ya I def plan to see Call Me By Your Name because it has been so polarizing among ppl whose opinions I value

ok so Eric and Alfred, I've already seen a Guiraudie so I've got BPM and The Ornithologist to watch, what are a few more of yr faves?

"Arty" as in indie: Test

"Arty" as in subtitled: Being 17

honestly i'm satisfied with "Arty" as in quality

The Duke of Burgundy
Eastern Boys
The Handmaiden
Tangerine
Bad Hair
Vic+Flo Saw a Bear
The Last Time I Saw Macao
Keep the Lights On

Vic+Flo Saw a Bear and Keep the Lights On also qualify

oh Morbs beat me lol

Second The Duke of Burgundy, for sure. Wish I'd liked Eastern Boys better.

oh yeah Tangerine!!!

Swedish film Something Must Break as well.

4 Days in France was determined to be the dullest cruising film of all time, and probably came close. Some good single-scene supporting performances, but I don't think a Mr Bean lookalike was the right lead.

S: sadie benning

― slam dunk, Sunday, April 19, 2015 9:53 PM

Went to Lincoln center last Friday night to rewatch about eight of her Pixelvision shorts, and damn, maybe 20 ppl were there. I onder if many have ever even heard of her who didn't see the stuff in the '90s.

http://www.vdb.org/artists/sadie-benning

Sat-Mon in NYC

http://metrograph.com/series/series/173/jack-smith

Worst gay films of no qualities.

Can't really agree with including A Fantastic Woman on that list - I liked it a lot.

Tom Ford's A Single Man, I'd agree isn't a good film - but there are still elements of it I really like such as the use of colour and the photography, and the scene with Julianne Moore. The main problem for me is that Colin Firth just doesn't feel right in the role.

Saw Sebastián Lelio's Disobedience yesterday, which I think is late reaching London. It's a bit slow and dragging, but did convey the claustrophobia of very tight-knit communities and a quality of surburbaness - and stays with you afterwards. The love scenes were quite nicely done, though not especially 'arty'.

From Alfred's 'good' ist, I personally can't abide either High Art or Death in Venice.

One of Moore's poorer performances, and Ford neutered the novel for the sake of sentimentality (the phone call scene, from which the film never recovers).

Before I saw it again a couple years ago DIV might've gone in the bad pile.

good thing none of us has ever seen that Rex Harrison-Dick Burton movie

For years, I'd only heard of that movie because Ebert included his review in his collection of most hated movies. Then I remember reading something a few years back where Armond White called it a landmark queer classic or something, which tells me all I need to know.

On Alfred's shit list, I've seen A Single Man, Threesome, J Edgar, Get Real, and Tea and Sympathy. I may have seen Suddenly, Last Summer at some point, or I'm just remembering scenes from it that were included in The Celluloid Closet or something. The only one I remember sort of liking is Get Real, though not enough to mount any kind of defence of it (I remember Beautiful Thing being better anyway).

Worst gay movie I've seen might be Latter Days, which trivializes homophobia and suicide for the sake of a surprise happy ending (yeah yeah spoiler yeah yeah yeah).

Suddenly Last Summer is my kinda Tennessee Williams.

only if Monty Clift had eaten me

Moonlight is a well-acted and beautiful-looking terrible film.

So I read Myra Breckenridge, and I liked it as much as I like anything Gore Vidal has written (he's fine, sure), and didn't know anything about the film version, and I popped it in one afternoon when I was staying over at a friends and had nothing better to do. I loved it, it felt like a proto-"Natural Born Killers" except about sex instead of violence, with all the other footage intercuts, and a hammy-and-great Rex Reed performance. Minutes after it was over, I googled about it and was surprised to learn it was widely loathed, that Gore Vidal disowned it, that Rex Reed hated it, and so on, and so forth. Am I crazy? I think it's totally a great movie

A friend asked why I hadn't included it. I wasn't as enthused as you, goon, but its maladroit understanding of the novel is real fun.

Included on your dud list, you mean? Maybe I should watch it again, I just remember thinking it was very funny

I'm also curious Alfo if you've seen Hail The New Puritan and your thoughts on it

After the failure of this film, [director Michael Sarne] was never asked by an American studio to direct another film. Upon learning that Sarne was now working at a pizza restaurant, Gore Vidal is said to have commented that this was proof of God's existence.

I very much doubt Mike Sarne ever worked in a pizza joint fwiw. Funnily enough I saw him recently in a crappy early 60s British teen movie and he was the best thing on it.

... actually, having just checked his IMDB page, he did disappear for about 10 years after Myra Breckenridge, plenty of pizzas could have been served in that time.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/70/Come_Outside_Mike_Sarne.jpg

i made my mind up recently to read then see Myra, but it's surprisingly difficult to get hold of the book -- it doesn't circulate in the NYC library (Brooklyn either).

Well worth the read.

If first heard of Parker Tyler from reading Myra Breckenridge.

highly related:

https://www.filmcomment.com/blog/queer-now-then-1970/

Baby Doll is my kinda Tennessee Williams (as straight as possible).

Michael Koresky looks back at Marlon Riggs' Tongues Untied and the political furor around it.

https://www.filmcomment.com/blog/queer-now-then-1991/

I'd fallen out of the habit of checking these ... I sincerely hope this becomes a book someday:

https://www.filmcomment.com/blog/queer-now-then-1997/

starting at NYC MoMA next week:

MoMA’s film collection includes significant holdings by lesbian and gay filmmakers, especially in the period ranging from avant-garde celebrations of queer culture on film to the tragic resolve of the AIDS crisis on home video. Featuring a selection of classic, forgotten, and newly preserved landmark films of the movement, “Now We Think as We Fuck”: Queer Liberation to Activism explores the ways that queer moving-image artists defined and inspired their marginalized community. Works in the series demonstrate how those in the movement rose to heroism in a time of crisis, acting to change the course of history.

https://www.moma.org/calendar/film/5186

a rare opportunity to say "one for Sextool" at MoMA

Surprised @ no mention of Barbara Rubin's 'Christmas on Earth'

Koresky on Flaming Creatures (last column if FC doesn't return)

https://www.filmcomment.com/blog/queer-now-then-1964-jack-smith-flaming-creatures-jonas-mekas/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASN_qGMUREY

(Just kidding.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Stucker#/media/File:Stephen_Stucker.jpg

That being said, Benediction looks promising.

Fire Island doesn't look good, obviously, but I don't see why contempo gays don't deserve a Spring Break or a Where the Boys Are '84 of their very own.

Spring Break was already plenty queer.

(Spring Breakers)

https://worldfilmgeek.files.wordpress.com/2020/07/springbreak-still.jpg?w=816

OK, that looks gayer.

A gay Netflix series of non-artful qualities, Heartstopper, is the best gay thing I've seen in a while.

I was curious if that was worth a watch ... I prefer the Hulu show Love Victor (more or less) to its major motion picture antecedent Love Simon.

I just read the first volume of the Hearstopper graphic novel, and have the other three on hold at the library. I'm not sure how much the first season of the series (or is it a "limited series?") covers, but I'm thinking I should hold off on starting the series until I finish up the books.