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People who smoke cigarettes in public should be slapped
― Moo Vaughn, Wednesday, March 28, 2018 7:08 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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combustible tobacco products should not be on the market

I think I agree with this, for certain values of “fine”.

― valorous wokelord (silby)

it's a vice. it's obviously not good for you, but alcohol is far more accepted culturally despite being a worse vice in every way.

I don't think cigarettes are good for you, but we've gone too far to push smokers out of all spaces. I think the danger of second-hand smoke is way overblown.

― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles)

I don't agree with this. I am a smoker and am very glad that I cannot smoke inside almost anywhere. When I can, I smoke more, and I feel worse. I also don't agree that the health effects of secondhand smoke are overblown, but even if they are, it's good that we don't smoke inside anymore. It's inconsiderate for people who don't smoke and fucks up whatever is in the room.

People who smoke cigarettes in public should be slapped

― Moo Vaughn

Slap me honey

slappy bird OTM

“flappy bird vs gabbneb: slap battle” is not something I should be remotely interested in, but I’ve had worse impulses

I would bring a knife

knife slapping

There is no difference functionally between a ; and a -- and a ... and a .. except levels of formality and familiarity.

I wish to quibble, mainly about the second of those. I assume that by -- you mean an em dash. First of all, my preference is an actual em dash with no spaces. True, when used alone it can signify a break or pause in thought, inna Emily Dickinson stylee.

But, when used in pairs they become functionally equivalent to parentheses. Quite different from what a semicolon does! The sentence can continue on the other side of the material between the em dashes (just as it would a phrase within parentheses) but doesn't have to.

Word will autocorrect the sequence "(word)hyphenhyphen(word)" (word)emdash(word). However—and this annoys me to no end—it will autocorrect "(word)spacehyphenhyphenspace(word)" to (word)spaceendashspace(word).

I don't care about people cigarette smoking but they need to do it far from me. It makes me wheeze and makes my stuff smell terrible for days.

That was the best thing when they started to ban cigarettes in bars. I remember working in several bars and just dying when I went home. Everything smelled so bad, and I would wake up one roommate all the time because I had to take a shower to wash the smoke out of my hair. I feel like I had smoked a pack secondhand some nights.

Maybe they should ban alcohol in bars.

I didn't realize secondhand drunk/liver damage was a thing.

those dense clouds of smoke in bars. i smoked and they totally grossed me out and would give me a headache. you gotta figure people died for centuries just from public house smoke.

i do kinda miss going to a diner hungover and having my eggs and coffee and cigarettes. but i'm totally glad that doesn't exist anymore.

There is no difference functionally between a ; and a -- and a ... and a .. except levels of formality and familiarity.

No way! There's a huge difference in pacing! One is a slow searching pause, a meaningful rest, a purposeful...moment. The other is in a hurry! It rushes past, a person interrupts themselves with a new thought--and then goes back--without even taking a breath!

The mid-sentence ellipsis is the most irritating shit a person can do in correspondence unless they’re making fun of somebody else who does it, or using it to try and perform a prose impression of Shatner or Brando, which is also irritating but not to the same degree.

If you employ mid-sentence ellipses as part of your personal written idiolect, just be aware that everyone reading it is suffering because of your inability to confidently give your thoughts a beginning, a middle, and an end.

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I didn't realize secondhand drunk/liver damage was a thing.

― Yerac, Thursday, March 29, 2018 9:51 AM (twenty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Secondhand drunk damage is kind of a thing.

celine is like whatevs...

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xp this is true but I have known quite a few people who make *better* company drunk, while cigarettes cannot be said to improve a personality

nicotine totally improves my personality. #meds

ha yes except in case of withdrawal

anyway cigarettes and boozel are old pals + mutually complementary

I like the smell of some cigarette smoke in open air when it wafts over.

xp boozel = drunk for "booze"

Things i just don’t...care about. /shatner

smoking in bars seems so long ago and such a foreign concept, but (as I've mentioned before) apparently smoking was banned in bars here *after* friends had facebook accounts. so there are pictures of me sitting around with friends who are smoking that pop up in the flashback posts

cigarette smoke has such a nostalgic smell for me.... cruising around on our bikes in 5th grade, sneaking back to the railroad tracks or the creek behind the grocery store, we knew all these little secret spots in the woods and even though i never really smoked my friends did and it makes me think of being a nervous 12 year old hanging out w/ the bad kids

I miss smoking in bars. OK, not really but it makes me a little nostalgic for a time that seems less complicated. It does seem insane to think about how many shows I smoked at while right in the middle of a crowded audience probably dancing and drunk. It's amazing we didn't all just burn the crap out of one another but maybe we did and I've conveniently forgotten that part.

when I visited Raleigh in December 2007 it was the last winter before its smoking ban kicked in, but Florida had gone smoke-less since 2003 and it felt like another century.

I definitely remember getting cig burns on my hand while dancing and from people waving their arms around.

when I was 15 I was with a bunch of friends and we stopped at a park for a cigarette break (since the driver was driving his parents' car). there was six of us and I was the only one who didn't smoke. anyway one of the guy's parents drives by and he freaks out and hands me the cigarette b/c his parents were very much against smoking. I take the bullet but later get lectured by his parents. Good times.

i always kinda envied people who smoked after the smoking ban because it was real easy to kick up a conversation with a woman in a bar that way..."you got a heater??" that worked pretty well for me though it did result in one awkward moment where I had to come clean about not smoking

wait hang on - a "heater"?

that's exactly how he draws them in

I would literally prefer being chloroformed into unconsciousness than being around smokers in any context.

"chloroformed into unconsciousness" i dig that

I've never heard "heater" in my life. Ha. I love regional slang. Is that regional? I remember being really confused when the kids at that youth center I worked at asked me for squares. I still don't get where that originates. I have a theory but I have no idea if I'm right.

Re: em dashes, I learned from *cough* an editor at Pitchfork, can't remember who *cough* that they as a website prefer their em dashes to have no space before and one space after-- like this-- because it doesn't confuse browsers when they need to change wrap-around points-- the em dash is firmly attached to the word it follows. I like it

And yes yes I am aware that em dashes are distinct from ellipses and semi-colons. However, the thought process that I engage in when selecting which one to employ, and alter my sentence structure to accommodate, is distinctly defined by the level of familiarity I have with the subject and the formality of the content. [moves conversation to the "post a tedious opinion" thread]

two dashes do not an em dash make

I miss smoking in bars but then I was somebody who smoked in bars so I would. Cancer's probably gonna get you anyway

I am very disappointed in all the people who prefer hamburger to pizza in the other thread. I feel like there are some childhood issues there.

I guess my perhaps-not-that-controversial opinion is that copy-editing punctuation pedantry is a sneaky guilt-free way of dismissing the writing of lower-class people who have never even met an editor but have taken the time to work on their writing style, use spell checkers, etc. Not that I'm accusing anyone here of that exactly, at least everyone has the self-awareness to realise that it doesn't really matter.

I've already said all I have to say about boring hamburgers.

I've never heard "heater" in my life. Ha. I love regional slang. Is that regional?

lol I guess so

Tbh I did the 2 spaces after a full stop because I was taught to do it and kinda got that impression too but my "class" fwiw is mess anyway.

toilet paper should unspool from underneath, so that the loose end hangs near the wall

That is a controversial opinion. And I should know

Only in savages' private homes does toilet paper look like this.

I will die on this hill

I couldn't care less if toilet paper hangs over the top or the bottom. I never ever notice this. Who the fuck cares????