Moab, UT

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It's funny cause I'm a hiker, don't mountain bike, and I can get a bit perturbed by some bikers' attitudes to the land. Treat it like an amusement park rather than an ecosystem etc. But overall mtn bike community is really cool and respectful .

it's an unbelievable place to ride and hike...so jealous

There was pretty heated battle between mtn bikers and forest service/hikers here in Sedona in the last 15 years or so. Mtn bikers starting illegal/unsanctioned trails w/no regard to erosion and other issues. But they had a kumbaya relational shift in last few years, working together, compromising.

yeah mountain bikers can be a little bro-y but in general they're pretty eco conscious ime

I shed a tear when I see crisscross bike tracks all thru an offtrail cryptobiotic soil area but yes I'd agree

there's an amusement park aspect to running on rock too, it's kind of like dancing. i'm not really into distance running, more 6-7 miles on a trail with some power, speed and grace. there are very few somewhat developed places in the world with the kind of terrain that moab has. also really into hiking and camping too of course.

the soil build-up is so important, but there are so many other large-scale human intrusions on the ecosystem i can't really get too worked up about it -- like the giant potash mine below dead horse point or the constant sound of planes in the flyover corridor above - that kind of noise has a huge impact on a desert ecosystem.

i'm really curious about making it down further south to bears ears national monument at some point to get a feel for how that's shaping up.

there's so much around Moab to explore. even a Rocky Mtn town like Telluride is only lil over 2 hrs away iirc.

Gravity ride culture is generaly bro ey as hell afaict and...thats just not how i ride. (tbc all kinds of riding can be destructive and broey tho).

I have been spending some time looking at the stuff SUWA wilderness group sent me- they seem very cool.

agreed, would like to connect with those people

canyonlands is my fav of the desert national parks. so remote

you have to do an 8 hour 4x4 trek to even get to the maze. i've heard the easiest way to get to that part of the park is a boat taxi and then a hike up to the dollhouse.

map how does Moab compare to/differ from similar canyony places in the midwest/southwest?

map when I come visit you in Moab can we go camping or is it too cold?

moab is friendlier and more salt-of-the-earth than most western tourist towns i've been to, but it doesn't feel backwards or claustrophobic like ranching / mining towns that are trying to hold on.

steve it should be fine april - october at least so if you're planning on visiting in those months then of course we're camping.

i made it. omg spring here is sooooooooo beautiful

holy shit! that's great! you probably picked a good time of year to arrive. i've only been to moab a couple times, as a stop on the way to the deserts and slot canyons in southeast UT. both were incredible experiences and i was so jealous of everyone who lived around there. someday i hope to make it out west.

stay safe and gl

thanks my dudes.

Moab, UT more like Moa bUT

LOL

Mill Creek flows out of the La Sals (a volcanic island of peaks about 12000 ft high) and runs through town. For about four blocks just west of Main Street it's just the creek, a Cottonwood grove and a dirt road.

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this weekend main street was overrun by car show people (definitely not my bag). weird to see the main drag backed up for miles this morning with those folks leaving while just a few blocks west it's the usual sleepy small town barely-there traffic.

i can't get over how you can just walk out your front door and breathe extremely clean, delicious air. fills me with glee.

I love how the La Sals got their name.
Ha I even love when there's nearby wildfires...everything smells like a campfire. Unless the smell lasts for days, then it gets to be too much.

wikipedia has a great photo of the la sals from gemini bridges road. i love running in that area on the magnificent 7 trails.

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the cottonwoods are going wild right now and the air is very sweet-smelling.

never been more grateful for thai food becoming popular in middle america 15 years ago, because there are two (!) thai restaurants here and one is actually pretty good.

👍. Pretty soon itll get HOT. Where are u from?

Dry heat tho, outta the sun its no prob really.

salt lake so just a few degrees hotter really

ahhh, you are practically a local- Wasatch, uintah, la Sal no big dif. 😬 jk

I've eaten at the one Thai place that's in an old house a couple times. It was good! Though my friend did have a big ol hair in his curry.

Got sick after eating at El Ch@rro Loco. It hit me just after starting overnight hike in Canyonlands. Not fun!

hm yeah, i noticed that place for the first time today. for late nite i like a giliberto's burrito. so much utah food sucks but the mexican fast food places that are open late or 24 hrs are usually pretty decent to delicious. the moonflower co-op deli is a godsend for lunch. main street is a zoo i try to avoid as much as possible tbh. the hospital has a little grill where you can get a 3.50 hamburger that isn't bad.

today i went up mill creek to the waterfall. it was a thursday so not super crowded, 15-20 people around max. for a minute no one was around. i fucking love being in water to a ridiculous degree, i giggle like a stupid kid if i'm going swimming. anyway i spent a solid 30-40 minutes swimming around in the hole, then hiked further up to the next little slide, swam some more, came back down to the main hole, swam some more. three hours total. it was a blast.

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90 degrees today but with a breeze so being in the water for too long felt a little chilly. but i did not give a fuck, i wanted to get as much of it in as possible.

swimming in relatively clean water that isn't chlorinated is totally divine and something i think i need to do at least once a week this summer.

hey map this thread has been a total treat to check into lately, nice work. $3.50 hospital hamburgers por vida

yea i have never been to moab but i love this thread

btw do you pronouce it like mo-ab or mobe

Mo Ab

holy shit the tourist season is finally over in moab and the streets are motherfucking empty and i'm so hyped for winter -- as long as we don't get snow pack down in the valley because that makes running a bitch especially on slick rock. i really don't like venturing out for a run and seeing a full parking lot at the trail head and a bunch of screaming kids etc, which was the case through a lot of october and november, although there has never been a real crowding problem once i'm on the actual trail.

residents of moab are called moabites ftr.

i went to a hip hop dance party at a mountain bike store last saturday night. 30-40 people showed up, which is a total party here.

Have you obtained some local knowledge on "secret" trails ie unofficial social trails? Dunno if they exist there but I'm guessing so.

https://vimeo.com/49544042

if the season ended in september in the late 50s when abbey worked arches, winter musta been pretty desolate in moab.

haha a few things

i hate edward abbey. racist, misogynist and homophobic, yes, but in my opinion those qualities or blindnesses are symptoms of the deeper problem that he was a boring, shallow asshole lacking any visionary spark or unique insight and riding a misbegotten concept of 'wilderness'.

i run the trails that are on the maps. there are definitely areas a person can explore that are 'unofficial' and lots of locals do that but mostly i just want to run and not think too much about where i'm going.

'secret' stuff is more in the cedar mesa area where there are ruins that need protection and amplifying traffic via directions on the internet is going to make that a lot harder.

i'm on the gay hookup apps, grindr and scruff, and sometimes i get a tourist hiker fan asking me for trail recommendations and most of the time it's like... the map knows better than i do, just figure it out, it isn't that hard, i'm not your tour guide. i mean if they're nice and not presumptuous then i might point them in one direction or another. but i'm not really a hiker who's been everywhere, i run in the same 3-4 areas that are beautiful but not really destination hikes, i don't know what the destination hikes are. i moved down here in april and the first time i went into arches np was over thanksgiving because it's been cars backed up for a mile and the last thing i want to do when i 'get out' is wait in a line of cars.

it snowed about 4" last sunday and got really cold. i ran monday and tuesday on mostly snow-covered trails and it was ok but kind of a pain in the ass, i was breaking a lot of trail and only figured out tuesday where i should head to get the south-facing terrain. wednesday i ran on slickrock and it was mostly clear. it does make things look different, lots of blue-grey light everywhere, but mostly i don't like it, turns everything into such a rigamarole.

the goddamn furnace broke in my trailer tonight, so i ran to the tiny-ass shopko before they closed which is the only other "general goods" store here besides 2 grocery stores and a drug store, and luckily they had a small ceramic space heater.

roommates are digging into the heater now bless their hearts.

lol i'm moving out in a month. back to salt lake. for loooove.

coincidentally i've gotten tired of the smallness of the town, the rednecks, the racism, the fact that it is completely overrun by tourists from march to november. the fucking four-wheelers. i'm so repulsed by anyone who spends their wilderness vacation on a motorized vehicle.

I still wanna go to indian creek 😔

stay safe and well! slc is pretty liveable and has wasatch action.

thanks!

went back this weekend.

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thanks :)

I haven’t been off the east coast let alone to Utah in more than a decade at this point, but one of my most treasured memories is a backpacking trip I did along Coyote Gulch about 20 years ago. Some of the most beautiful scenery I’ve ever seen, and the transition from being up on Hole-in-the-rock road to where the gulch emptied into the Escalante River was mind boggling. Getting to watch the twists and turns in this little trickle of water go from just impacting the patterns in the sand to creating hundred foot canyon walls… watching golden eagles up in their nest… man oh man. We also did some slot canyons nearby which were just as stunning. Enjoy!

hell yeah, that's fantastic. i'm sure you'll make it back. the desert changes only very slowly :).

i did not know about this national monument, would love to go some day! we'll be in utah in the spring for a wedding but won't have time to parksmaxx

nice :). hope utah doesn't weird you out too much lol. is the wedding an outdoors deal? outdoors weddings are v popular here. i actually attended / djed one in moab for a friend many years ago.

i think i'll do a (short and incomplete) personal rundown of national parks / monuments / a few state parks... because i'm wfh and confined to this room while my partner has a massage client lol...

canyonlands np 5/5. the road up to the lookout is what most people see and even with the crowds (kinda busy april-october with a few really busy times) it's very much worth it. there is a lot of beautiful hiking up there too though i have to admit i haven't done any of it. the place in canyonlands i've hiked is the needles area, which is 3 hours away from the island in the sky view point - you have to drive up and around the drainage and you come at it through the side, traversing a gorgeous valley and dropping into a stunning canyon, past newspaper rock which is an insane collection of rock art. needles area is a huge network of trails that climb up and down rock rims and narrow valleys. day hiking is very much worth it. multi-day backpacking trips are possible with camping by permit. idk how hard the reservations are to get but i don't think they're as hard as, say, yoesmite. the whole needles area is huge and special. it's so so so beautiful. indescribable. hard to capture in photos ime. one of the most beautiful colorado plateau places i've seen.

oh yeah there's the maze. 6 hour slow and hard as fuck 4x4 journey to even get in there. you have to pack everything. plus more permits. i don't know that i'll ever see it in person. fun to follow insta accounts that do though lol.

there is also a small strip that was added just west of the green protecting a canyon that has some of the most beautiful rock art. "barrier canyon" style is named after it. it's very old, 2k-4k years. rock art is notoriously very hard to date. anyway this canyon, the hike down into it, and through it for a few miles, passing by a few smaller panels and then culminating in the main panel, is absurdly beautiful. you have to drive on some dirt roads for about 35 miles south of green river to get there, which invariably takes at least two hours. you don't need serious 4x4 or anything just decent clearance. it's a little out of the way but it's just so fucking cool that i think it's a main event and worth taking a (long) day to do. usually 0 to very few people at the trailhead. it does require some good aerobic capacity and leg strength / sturdiness / balance.

arches np 4/5. it's a banger. most of it is pretty accessible too. it's very popular. timed entry system now i believe. i have been a handful of times and done some easy hikes long ago but i don't fuck with it anymore because it's just too busy for me. one thing i'd still like to do there is the fiery furnace, maybe in the middle of winter or something.

capitol reef 5/5. it doesn't have the rock holes or the multilevel canyon drainage but it's pretty fuckin special man. it's basically a huge "reef" or fold in the earth exposing massive fins of navajo standstone that have been eroded into throne-like structures. plus a lot of other rock layers. water drainage has carved through the fold. very beautiful riparian environments. narrow canyons with wild rock wall stuff. cathedral valley is a separate area. a few hours on dirt roads to get there. big buttes in the middle of vast desert valleys, with a very particular texture to them - fine and ghostly. very high up (almost 7,000 feet) located at a place where drainage from the high flat top mountains to the west hits the rock and the quiet emptiness of the rain shadow desert. capitol reef overall is also less-visited. one of the few national parks in utah you can just waltz into and find solitude relatively easily.

grand staircase escalante nm 5/5. just a huge area of exposed rock drainage with the attendant formations and colors. the canyons of the escalante like people have been saying are unparalleled anywhere. the whole area is less-visited overall but some areas are popular esp near famous highway 12 (calf creek, kinda busy but a really fun hike that ends in a waterfall and pool in a massive gallery - prop tip - upper calf creek offers similar but you'll have the pool to yourself - shorter but grueling climb in and out of the canyon). burr trail - beautiful drive - less busy - some exciting day hike possibilities. the rest of the nm is a little harder to get to. hole in the rock road is graded iirc (to a certain point?) but any of the side roads are gonna be high clearance. i have been here less than i'd like hence my trip this weekend.

at the southern end of grand staircase the pariah enters a deep and narrow canyon on its way to the colorado. it drops into arizona and includes a lot of wild desert wilderness incl. the famous "wave" which takes a rare lottery win to get access to. i've hiked a few miles into the pariah from "white house" campground and it was very memorable.

glen canyon national recreation area. this is obviously lake powell but over land access leads to some of the most remote exposed rock scenery anywhere in the state. i hear that the overland rainbow bridge hike, which starts in din'e, is epic and beautiful. (most people take a boat ride to get there where it's a short hike from the shore.). i'm one of those people with very mixed feelings about the dam and the lake. i think it's kinda ugly and bad juju and i'm not a boater or water rec person. but in spite of the toilet bowl it's just a very rugged and beautiful area. vast areas of exposed rock, big cliffs and formations everywhere.

cedar mesa / grand gulch. sadly not a national anything though grand gulch / dark canyon are wilderness areas. basically tons of ancestral puebloan human settlement artifacts in exposed rock drainage north of the san juan river. look up "comb ridge". insane stuff in there. the visitor's center in blanding told us they weren't allowed to hand out any "official" guide material to comb ridge and all of the rock art / structures in there because the blm is co-managing it with tribal representation at least for now (they gave us a hand-drawn and xeroxed "guide"). i have mixed feelings about "putting things on the map" with regards to national park / monument designations which dampens the personal and exploratory experience of discovering the land's secrets on your own, but i understand and give respect to the different pros and cons incl access and protection.

ok going to se utah where i have much less experience / recent visits...

zion. that main road through the park is crazy beautiful but so busy. i've avoided zion because of that but recently been learning that outside of a few very popular hikes there is some serious backcountry stuff where it's easy to find yourself alone. the sheer prominence of zion is a big part of the drama. several thousand feet from the highest points to the virgin river at the bottom. pretty unreal.

bryce canyon. also on the busier side but it's possible to find some alone time from what i've heard. honestly i haven't been here very much maybe two or three times and not when i was a hiker / trail runner. so i'd like to go back and experience the park when it's a little less busy and i could do some running. not everyone realizes this but it's 10,000+ feet up so a good one to do in the summer, which is when it's busy ofc.

cedar breaks national monument. maybe not quite as dramatic as bryce but it's close. so so so underrated. no one goes here. many hiking opportunities. also 10,000+ ft. another one i'd like to do for 2-3 days in the summer, maybe even over bryce because no crowds.

kodachrome basin state park. "best-kept secret" that's maybe gaining some more popularity? a red rock basin with some prominence and drama with the cliffs and formations. good hikes. people who mention it always talk about the campground facilities - they are nice and you can get a good shower. on the east side of bryce. very small visitation numbers.

just realized it's the "paria" river not the "pariah" lol.

one more thing about grand staircase escalante nm. it's been a touch point of anti-fed energy in southern utah since clinton designated it. right wing utah politicians and the trump administration may actually hollow out protections pretty significantly in sections of it, if they haven't already, i don't really follow this, but i think it's unlikely that the national monument designation gets officially changed or rescinded. it just brings too much money into the area for that. the tourist money has too much of a voice. most places in utah i think that wins over mining and oil/gas money. though for some it's pretty evenly split (nine mile canyon for instance - a place that really deserves and needs protection even more so than grand staircase escalante imho though i don't think that is coming any time soon).

oh i made a huge mistake! cedar mesa / grand gulch is bears ears national monument, duh! that is why there is tribal representation in the land management. i even went to a presentation about this a long time ago. apparently my mind is being mysteriously sucked deep into lake powell, never to be seen again, like so many innocent boaters and swimmers...

This is an awesome summary, thank you map! In addition to my Escalante trip I’ve seen Arches, Zion and Bryce but just for surface level day trip touristy hikes and overlooks. Someday i look forward to diving back in deep

so last weekend in grand staircase-escalante outside escalante was one of the best desert trips i've ever done. it was just exquisite. escalante itself is a very small town in the middle of nowhere. kind of a vague metaphor but if you can imagine "layers" between human civilization and raw nature, and say that your average city or suburb has at least 4-5, escalante has 1. there are some tourist businesses there but nothing had opened yet, except for the restaurant in my motel and a subway. i think that maybe one other motel was open. it was very quiet. nature all up in your face everywhere all the time. crazy sunrises and sunsets. the view from my window ... wow. geese passing by with such clarity. two ranch cats zooming back and forth on the porch of the little farm house a few hundred feet away. drainage and brush and cliffs. grey brown blue. the snow-covered pink breaks of bryce embedded in the dark green high up on the mountain in the distance. desert life.

both days i spent in roughly the same area, a huge basin of exposed rock carved out into washes and buttes a few hundred feet high, west of "red breaks", where the cosmic ashtray is located. the rock stays mostly at an angle that you can stay upright on, so my plan was to do a lot of free running and hopefully find the cosmic ashtray based on nothing but having looked at google maps a lot. the first day i started at the volcano trailhead, the "official" way to do it. first mile and a half is trudging through range land sand, not my favorite kind of terrain tbh. then onto rock with a big climb to the top of the basin. basically i got off trail pretty early on (it's difficult to find and follow this trail for a few reasons). i did some running and some route finding. got to a ridge and stopped, figuring the ashtray was across another steep ravine or two, decided to turn around. direct sun all day and chilly temperature with the sun barely winning the tug of war, getting pretty intense there for an hour or two (i got my first burn of the year lol).

the next day i decided to go to the same area, but at the bottom of the basin, because i enjoyed the terrain so much. 20-mile drive down a well-graded dirt road. then 12 or 13 miles down a much rougher road. my 2 wheel drive kia sportage manages this stuff ok 🙏. the rough road descends into a beautiful, gentle wash. red canyon walls, not very high. cottonwoods and desert riparian brush. the official road ends at a trailhead but the actual road keeps going all the way into the rock basin. signs posted for a wilderness study area, no vehicles. oh well, the road is well-traveled and there are cattle hoof marks all over the fuckin place anyway, it's not exactly pristine, i'm a bad boy and keep going all the way into the basin, which puts much less distance between where the cosmic ashtray is supposedly located and the start of the run, and also allows me to start on rock, which is ideal. i spend a few hours trotting up and down big rock buttes leaping over little crevasses and cake layers and such and finally find the cosmic ashtray slotted high up on the side of a butte, totally invisible from below. it's wilder than i expected (google "cosmic ashtray" to get an idea). way cool.

really crucial meditations kept me light and open most of the time. no slips into despair loops. just acknowledging and observing darkness at the edge of the light. the beauty and the insanity of the earth. the deep endless quiet and the darkness at night. friendly and enveloping. i felt recharged this week after coming back. kind of a stressful day yesterday but it didn't get to me. i need these trips, they're like an extra charge to my spiritual battery. already thinking about the next one. i love the idea of going somewhere new-ish again. there is a motel about 20 miles north of bullfrog marina lake powell i'm thinking about.

sounds like an amazing trip... I mostly know Escalante from the journals of Everett Ruess, I'll have to go see it myself sometime even thought Utah is not my favorite state in the union

i haven't read the journals embarrassingly, i should fix that. we have one of the woodblock prints in our kitchen. i saw a documentary years ago so i know the general outline of the story. the escalante and the area it drains is vast. getting lost and ingested in it does not seem an unlikely end at all for anyone exploring it even today.

yeah, they'll occasionally find some human bones around there and try to test to see if they belong to Ruess but I think the search is over... he just vanished. Interesting kid though, he really lived the life he wanted... I found his original home in Oakland by looking up his dad in these old phone books in the library

map’s travelogue is one of the best post genres

map, have you ever hiked out to The Wave? I want to do it sometime but haven't had enough free time to try for one of the lottery cancelations

of course the wave is spectacular but i don't really do that kind of admin work, applying for lotteries and that sort of thing. kind of a joysuck for me. especially when there is so much desert wilderness of around the colorado plateau equivalent beauty where you don't need to do any that. even some in vermillion cliffs national monument - wire pass, white pocket, etc. one thing i do want look into is how to access some promising looking terrain in din'e, who to talk to, etc.

found my own little version of the wave on this trip!

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ok one more, here's the cosmic ashtray. i came at it from "the other end" so it's a unique view!

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Awesome reports!

Love this:

just acknowledging and observing darkness at the edge of the light

i guess i'll stick with this as a catch-all thread for colorado plateau desert wilderness, even though it feels a little unfair to that diverse range of wonderful quiet places because moab is such a greedy little tourism mining operation these days.

i am going to escalante again this weekend, for 5 days! excited for a slightly extended stay and that feeling of day 3 total unwind.

my first two days will be alone, and then i'm being joined by my partner and our car mechanic friend who takes care of more than our cars if you know what i mean. alone days will be at a budget motel. threesome days will be at a "modern" matte black-gray-wood type "cabin" operation with a food truck in the parking lot. i anticipate a lot of driving down hole-in-the-rock road and back, sun on my skin, sand in my shoes, learning the news to quote john muir.

capitol reef
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escalante canyon
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great shots! i have not done escalante, i really must.

i’m doing it 100% wrong but riding from Montrose to Moab today, should get there fri night or sat. solo. i dont even know how i’m getting from Moab back to GJ. if i can steal a shuttle hitchike, i’ll just ride the 100 mi of road back on bike lol. I’m not ready to hit kokopeli that way as an add on. i’ve done it before but way too long. aaaand i only have 1.5 sets of clothing.

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i keep trying img stuff i never do it right tho

cool, have a good time out there. you can absolutely find a local willing to drive to grand junction imo, it's the closest place to get a bunch of stuff. i think you just gotta ask around and be willing to wait a day or two possibly.

postimages.org works for me lately.

and get em a tank of gas

i wish i had made better friends while i was there so i could ask around but i really didn't, sorry.

aw ty no worries. that’s kinda my theory i’ll just sorta fly a sign or ask ppl at gas stations near the hiway ha

go to one of the bike stores or moonflower co-op. maybe put a flyer up at the library? one of those places should be able to help you or at least point you in the right direction.

perfect thx again. I dint make it too far today in the end, but i’m on blm 10 mi north of nucla. its way more farmy than i thought what do they grow? once i got 5mi out its back to sage range tho. all the sprinklers were on so i stole 2L of water to filter tomorrow. i hoped i’d be 15mi further, but whatever. havent seen or heard anyone or thing for 2 hrs tho its glorious. just me and bats and teeny bitey bugs. how there’s 2 bars is ~mystery~

tomorrow over the la sals or south round. it never got over about 60 ish and most of my day up high on uncompahgre plateau was well cooler, low-mid 50s. long sleeve all day, total surprise. aspen are mostly buds+ up there.