Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

like I said, I have no idea -- it's weird that every news outlet's like "yep, all students accounted for." but I'm more bothered, to be honest, about the difference between people who got stories and people who didn't. there's always a weird popularity undercurrent with this kind of thing -- think the conservative counter-narrative of "don't take away guns! just talk to those kids that you bullied so they don't shoot you!" -- and who gets eulogized the most.

and yeah, again, there's a racial component to it. (when I was in undergrad, the Eve Carson murder was a huge deal. like, an unimaginably huge deal. a couple of years later, a couple of Muslim students got murdered. I wasn't on campus in 2015, but I doubt it was as massively huge a deal, at least not on campus; it did make national news, but like, are people talking about Deah Barakat as an exemplar of the Carolina Way?)

So, yesterday I wrote that Parkland's teens, in going out of their way to center voices from minority communities and reference privilege, have seriously challenged arguments that identity politics is inherently noxious, divisive, and counterproductive. https://t.co/agdYkdH2WQ

— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) March 27, 2018

Now we're treated to a David Brooks column about the march titled In Praise of Privilege that makes no specific reference -- none, zero -- to anything that was actually said on Saturday and quotes Samuel Huntington. https://t.co/9HmzZXbeVM … pic.twitter.com/tii5KDmjhm

— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) March 27, 2018

I think one of the more important things to keep in mind throughout all of this is that the people commenting on these words and actions have decades of life experience on these kids. I'm twice their age and I don't possess anything near their level of poise and maturity and focus, nor have I been through anything like what they've been through, so I'm willing to cut them a huge amount of slack. That they aren't curled up in the fetal position with the blinds drawn is amazing all on its own.

Also, they would probably love to just be kids and not feel the weight of responsibility that's been thrust upon them because so many adults are total shits. They're fucking heroes imo.

Also also, the extent to which they're willing to engage with any advice or criticism from adults is admirable inasmuch as they'd be completely forgiven for just asking 'say, adults, how have your approaches to the scourge of gun violence been working out for you thus far?' and walking away.

yeah, like, all of this is not to be mean to those kids, when I was that age I was devastated about not getting a role in the school musical

LOL?

The company said that it had ramped up production and borrowing in 2016 based on expectations that a Democratic administration in the White House hostile to gun rights would drive sales through the roof in 2017 and beyond. Instead, Donald Trump won the presidency, and expectations of higher sales evaporated.

http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-remington-bk-20180327-story.html

Active shooter at YouTube HQ. Heard shots and saw people running while at my desk. Now barricaded inside a room with coworkers.

— Vadim Lavrusik (@Lavrusik) April 3, 2018

whoa wtf

Confirmed? Seeing it reported in random places. BBC, Hollywood Reporter ...

Police still not saying anything other than 'activity'

Police activity at 901 Cherry Ave, please stay out of the area. pic.twitter.com/H6iAj0g7ra

— San Bruno Police (@SanBrunoPolice) April 3, 2018

Also, that poster above has added:

Safe. Got evacuated it. Outside now.

— Vadim Lavrusik (@Lavrusik) April 3, 2018

Police confirming the nature of the response:

We are responding to an active shooter. Please stay away from Cherry Ave & Bay Hill Drive.

— San Bruno Police (@SanBrunoPolice) April 3, 2018

KPIX 5 reporter Andria Borba said at least two Homeland Security units were responding. Police radio transmissions describe casualties being taken to local hospitals.

San Francisco General Hospital spokesman Brent Andrew said the hospital received patients from the incident but could not confirm a number.

God, this is eerie coming after their gun channel bans a week or so ago.

seeing sf general referred to as "zuckerberg general hospital" is a whole layer of weird alongside the horror here

It is the name.

yeah it was just news to me i guess and gives it a surreal sheen

Terrible.

In descending order of my expectation: an alt-righter angered by YT setting Alex Jones one strike away from being banned over conspiracy nonsense > an alt-righter angered by YT banning some white supremacist or gun nut video > other species of basement dweller angered by changes to YT's monetization formula > any other disgruntled YT denizen > disgruntled employee, foreign terrorism.

http://abc7news.com/source-active-shooter-multiple-injuries-at-youtube-hq/3297411/

Another law enforcement source confirms to ABC7 News reporter Dan Noyes that the shooter is a white, adult female wearing a dark top and head scarf.

I expect the reverse probably, Sanpaku, but who knows really...

Statement shortly

San Bruno Police Chief Barberini will be making a statement at 2:30pm. Media staging area is at the corner of Traeger Ave. at Bayhill Dr. in San Bruno.

— San Bruno Police (@SanBrunoPolice) April 3, 2018

#YouTube shooting: Multiple witnesses tell KTVU the shooter was a woman who shot herself after shooting her boyfriend. Police have not confirmed those details. https://t.co/wGGTF7wiOS pic.twitter.com/Tf7hCXJ2o4

— KTVU (@KTVU) April 3, 2018

Stanford Medical Center says it has received four to five patients.

*dices with posting a Bojack Horseman clip*

*you all know the one I mean anyway, so I won't*

https://www.apnews.com/3c7250eb9d824a5b921939eb4c82fb1e/The-Latest:-YouTube-shooting-suspect-animal-rights-activist

The father of a woman suspected of shooting three people at YouTube’s headquarters says she was angry at the company because it stopped paying her for videos she posted on the platform.

Ismail Aghdam told the Bay Area News Group that he warned police his daughter, Nasim Aghdam, might be going to YouTube because she “hated” the company.

a MONETIZATION beef?!?

Where is a good place to find gun ownership stats/data?

I'd read(somewhere, I forget where now), that ownership is concentrating - fewer people owning guns but the people who buy them are buying more of them? I don't know if this is true or even accurately measurable, but if it is would be good to tinker around with that data seeing how it maps with direct NRA influence in each state (county?)

https://youtu.be/_OkhHUXWNJA

Weird throwing the exercise bit in there.

cherry blossom:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/09/19/just-three-percent-of-adults-own-half-of-americas-guns/

Thanks El Tomboto! I had seen that one before, in fact thats probably what I'd read that made me start thinking about this more. I'd like to see this split out by state, and also over time since Columbine. I suppose we have to rely on survey takers, which, as the article suggests, isn't perfect.

I wonder if NRA membership numbers might be a good measure, if thats available - though it seems doubtful that it would include locale information

that's weird i was thinking to myself on the drive home yesterday maybe she was mad about monetization. i didn't think that would be true.

here’s the archive.org cache of her site

http://web.archive.org/web/20170101000000*/www.nasimesabz.com

How does this not happen every day, instead of every other week.

Where is a good place to find gun ownership stats/data?

If there is no national registry and there are so many ways to be sneaky about buying a gun (and one presumes many gun owners may be more reluctant than most to share info about whether or not they have a gun in the first place), how can they know how many guns are out there and how they are consolidated? The data could be wildly off in every direction.

Which is a really comforting thought. How many hand-held murder machines are floating around out there? Well, we can only guesstimate.

It’s in the 2nd, man. When they said “the Constitution is not a suicide pact,” what they meant is “actually, it’s a murder-suicide pact, don’t deal with it, it’s sacred.”

srsly, i regret posting that, sorry. grr.

If there is no national registry and there are so many ways to be sneaky about buying a gun (and one presumes many gun owners may be more reluctant than most to share info about whether or not they have a gun in the first place), how can they know how many guns are out there and how they are consolidated? The data could be wildly off in every direction.

Yes, looks like this isn't a fruitful direction. NRA membership stats/data might work, though whether they publish that is another problem (particularly if it were to undermine their position of influence and power)

NRA stats are bullshit. It is reportedly hard as hell to extricate yourself from a lifetime membership, so they are just listing all these people as members who really aren't. Kind of like the classic Mormon church.

how can they know how many guns are out there and how they are consolidated? The data could be wildly off in every direction.

On consolidation, perhaps, though I think the number of people who'd lie to polls is fairly small and the consolidation trend predates the hyper-paranoia of the gun culture post-2000.
On guns in existence, even wildly off wouldn't be that telling. Is there a meaningful difference in 200 million vs 300 million in telling people how to proceed?

From a rhetorical standpoint it might.

"I've heard there there are millions of guns in the United States. I bet most of you didn't bring any here tonight. I bet most of you don't have any at home, either. I bet most of you that have one at home don't keep it loaded. So who are we protecting? Which of you has a gun with you, with ammunition? That's not a lot of you. So if there are so many guns in our country, how come so many of us don't have any?"

etc fucking writes itself

fwiw, I had the misfortune of being present at that building yesterday(it is my place of work), although thankfully I was far away from the incident. Not something I would want to live through again.

Separately, I've been prodding my mother to dispose of a handgun my slowly-fading-into-dementia father bought long ago. This is surprisingly difficult, especially since state required licenses lapsed years ago. One thing we should do is make gun disposal always easy everywhere.

I was always nervous that the v old colt in my dad's closet lockbox would come to a bad end for him/us, esp as he faded into dementia. he's in memory care now, years later. Anyway at one family-style division of property sesh, I saw the small metal box brought out. I figured the pistol was still in there, and had little idea which kid or in-law would want it- def not i. i don't think many, or evenly any, knew the gun was there. we all awaited the box being opened. after some embarrassed manipulation my very elderly dad shrugged and said "I have no idea what's in there or why it's locked.it's a mysterious old box that was in my closet, I've never opened it" (obviously untrue, he would occasionally show it, and the contents, to younger me). Nobody knew the combo, we all looked around. So I stepped forward and tried my first guess, and opened the box. the colt was there. It was claimed by my brother-in-law.

seconding everyone who had the immediate “someone angry about video monetization” thought, because of the online video socialization index

I just don’t get guns. It’s a normal part of life for a number of people, because there are any number of reasons: someone might be born into a family with hunters, ex-military, sport shooters, or some relative who had a pistol and it was just a known quantity. But any time I am in a room, I feel infinitely safer if I believe there are no guns there, and infinity plus one if I know it. Sitting in my bedroom right now in that situation.

I work not far from a national guard facility and cops go there for training all the time. So if I go out for lunch, I see sherrifs, cops from around the state, and national guard people in uniform and it’s interesting to see (and worrying) who keeps their gun on their belt regardless of whether they’re on duty at home or eating a burrito halfway across the state.

i feel the same way when I'm out at McDonalds or something and see three security guards all with their guns on their belt, not reassuring

do any of you see armed people like non cops when you’re out? I haven’t been back to the USA in three years but I’m gonna visit next year and im dreading seeing gun people out

saw one at a grocery store a while back

ironically I wound up stealing a vegetable on accident (yes I went back and paid for it) but not before having visions of this 20 year old get wasting me in the parking lot for shoplifting

hardly ever but i think ohio is a concealed carry state so i just assume that people are likely armed