Shakey were you aware that shut the fuck up
― HI DERE, Thursday, 21 February 2008 19:49 (eighteen years ago)
lolz
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 21 February 2008 19:49 (eighteen years ago)
^_^
― HI DERE, Thursday, 21 February 2008 19:50 (eighteen years ago)
"Did the retard get loose?"
The whole "retard" v. "retired" thing is amazing.
Also, I don't know why but I LOVE when he throws down his bag and you hear the chicken.
― ENBB, Thursday, 21 February 2008 19:52 (eighteen years ago)
The bear punchline made us go "Nooooo!"
― Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 21 February 2008 19:53 (eighteen years ago)
comedy is only funny when you learn new things dan
― s1ocki, Thursday, 21 February 2008 19:54 (eighteen years ago)
when he throws down his bag and you hear the chicken.
^^^YES this is what I was referring to
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 21 February 2008 19:59 (eighteen years ago)
On second viewing it was probably this and the bit with the car salesman where he's mimicking his wife's voice all low pitched "BORAT BORAT" that I laughed hardest at.
― nickalicious, Thursday, 21 February 2008 20:01 (eighteen years ago)
The running of the Jew gag was horrifying but funny, but even better was the payoff with the "We're Christian now!" follow-on gag.
― HI DERE, Thursday, 21 February 2008 20:04 (eighteen years ago)
people were roffling hardcore in the theater when i saw this, but there were a few magical moments when everybody was just hushed for a second cos they could not believe what was in front of them ~~ next level
― gff, Thursday, 21 February 2008 20:05 (eighteen years ago)
^ Yes. Oh and by the way, when I said I watched this recently it happened to be with my DAD! Thankfully he thought it was hysterical and was laughing so hard he could hardly breathe.
― ENBB, Thursday, 21 February 2008 20:07 (eighteen years ago)
My grandma is a HUGE fan of the Borat segments on Da Ali G Show.
― nickalicious, Thursday, 21 February 2008 20:08 (eighteen years ago)
She hasn't seen the movie yet, though.
I think I was most uncomfortable when Amamat (sp?) was jerking off to the Pam pics right before the wrestling seen. It wasn't as bad as the time we watched Chris Rock together though. I nearly died when he was doing the whole "smack her with a dick" thing.
― ENBB, Thursday, 21 February 2008 20:11 (eighteen years ago)
Grrr. I meant "Azamat" which probably isn't right either.
Another one to avoid watching with parents/grandparents etc.? Bad Santa. Oy.
― ENBB, Thursday, 21 February 2008 20:13 (eighteen years ago)
also, "scene". I give up.
― ENBB, Thursday, 21 February 2008 20:15 (eighteen years ago)
"Pamela I am no longer attracted to you... NOT!!!"
― HI DERE, Thursday, 21 February 2008 20:40 (eighteen years ago)
So, did anyone see the Storyville 'When Borat came to town' last night? I really loved it. i t was exploitative as all hell. Why didn't they turn the cameras off when the the chaps were trying to submit their deposition at Fox's offices? That was potentially ruinous for them.
― Shacknasty (Frogman Henry), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 14:31 (seventeen years ago)
this is fucking rubbish
― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Sunday, 12 April 2009 20:46 (seventeen years ago)
not "relevant" huh
― Dr Morbius, Sunday, 12 April 2009 21:02 (seventeen years ago)
I REALLY didn't care for this movie. I found it a lot more depressing than funny. And I feel bad for the poor newscaster that lost her job because of the weather report scene.
If police were called on SBC/Borat 91 times, why didn't he ever get arrested? Just out of the blue attacking Pamela Anderson in a crowded Virgin Megastore like that and he's being taken away in handcuffs and he gets off scot-free?
― Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 02:06 (seventeen years ago)
that pamela anderson incident was staged dude
― A Very Powerful Whale Runs To Heaven (latebloomer), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 02:23 (seventeen years ago)
yah check out loose change dot com to see how
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 02:53 (seventeen years ago)
do ya thing snrub
― the sultan of ban (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 02:56 (seventeen years ago)
really?
― schlomo replay (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 16:58 (fifteen years ago)
Dan were you previously unaware that fratboys are stupid or something
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― Neanderthal, Friday, 9 December 2016 00:13 (nine years ago)
Jason Woliner to direct Borat moviefilm, surprise drop during Trump / Biden debate
― Un-fooled and placid (sic), Friday, 23 October 2020 05:50 (five years ago)
Tbh it's always irked me that SBC didn't simply invent a country of origin for the character.
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Friday, 23 October 2020 22:51 (five years ago)
yeah, would have been better to have a Molvanîa or Syldavia style fake country from the jump - or even to rebrand with the first film
new movie is way more hilair than cringe though, kept being bummed that I couldn't see it in a full theatre, or that Morbs would yell at me for posting that it is hilair
― Un-fooled and placid (sic), Friday, 23 October 2020 23:02 (five years ago)
I thought it had its moments, chuckled once or twice. Points for doubling down on sheer audacity (debutante ball, Holocaust survivors), I guess. I liked the last five minutes best.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 October 2020 02:33 (five years ago)
There were a couple of amazing lol moments but overall felt like they didn't get enough secret footage and had too create too much "story".
Giuliani footage was definitely creepy even if somewhat contrived.
― the colour out of space (is the place) (PBKR), Saturday, 24 October 2020 02:55 (five years ago)
yeah otm re:secret footage and story. agree that this had some laughs but felt like neither fish nor fowl. I would have preferred if it was all hidden cam/prank stuff (even if didnt all hold together with a coherent story), or if they just went all-in on making a narrative film that didnt interact with the 'real' world at all - most of the laughs for me were all from lines and bits during the 'story' parts anyway. the reality-doc conceit seems to have outlived its usefulness.
i thought the actress playing his daughter was really good, funnier than him most of the time in their scenes together tbh. (on that note, giuliani obviously just tucking in his shirt but w/e, still a dirtymind creep in that scene.)
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Saturday, 24 October 2020 03:11 (five years ago)
By the way, any guess what the set up pitch to hang with the Qanon dudes could have been, to explain the cameras? Those guys seemed too good to be true.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 October 2020 04:04 (five years ago)
p sure they were actors - it's not plausible that they'd take in a complete stranger AND a film crew during the pandemic, especially for five days.
― Un-fooled and placid (sic), Saturday, 24 October 2020 05:02 (five years ago)
I think the story element is key to this*. He seems to have only been motivated to make another Borat in order to be about the intersection of Trumpism / QAnon / child trafficking / sexual exploitation by male power structures, not because he had a strong motivation to use the character for a bunch of unconnected prank sketches. Nearly every setpiece runs on those themes, and most of them lead to another sequence, instead of being lightly strung together with B-roll of his car driving (or w/e it was in the first one?). *first movie credited four w/ screenplay, three of those +1 on story, and 8 longtime comedy writers get "thanks" for, presumably, punch-up or breaking story in a writers' room. new one has the same four on screenplay, plus another four on screenplay, three of those +1 on story, and at least 31 notable comedy writers, many of whom are major studio directors or TV showrunners, in the "thanks."
― Un-fooled and placid (sic), Saturday, 24 October 2020 07:02 (five years ago)
the intersection of Trumpism / QAnon / child trafficking / sexual exploitation by male power structures
In some ways it is (ironically) kind of subtle about this, imo. For example, it takes plenty of shots at Trump, but they're almost always fleeting or indirect by way of those themes you underscored. Which is to say, it's kind of a bait and switch, in that Trump looms over the whole thing (like everything) so you think he's the ultimate target, but it's not really about Trump. In that sense it's probably prescient, and certainly ahead of the curve, in illustrating what will surely be the enduring, pervasive problem of Trumpism itself, even when the man himself is gone.
The thing I mentioned about the QAnon guys being too good to be true, it really would have been great if they *were* real (assuming they aren't). I don't remember much about the first movie, but I do remember it showing, however unintentionally, that ignorant or uneducated or horrible people in the end can still be generous, friendly, patient and polite even in the face of Cohen's exploitation of said characteristics for laughs. In this one, you get the babysitter and the Holocaust survivors as moral anchors, and also the hapless but patient guys at the cell phone place and the FAX station. Could he really have found an equivalent kindness or acceptance among the armed right wing loonies, or is the level of anger and distrust too great? I have no idea. Certainly the All Gas, No Brakes guy is kind of doing his own Borat in that atmosphere, but he's threatened all the time in his bits, iirc.
Incidentally, now I'm wondering who else must/might have been "in on it." Certainly after the fact, since there weren't many blurred faces. But the babysitter ... was she a set up? I wish not, but same thing, how did they explain the cameras?
My favorite joke, by the way, was one that was off camera, when that person had to count out $20,000 in small bills.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 October 2020 13:11 (five years ago)
this didn't do much for me
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 24 October 2020 13:56 (five years ago)
My wife kept asking about the cameras and my assumption is that the cameras are so small in 2020 that they were hidden. Is that a dumb assumption given the quality of the footage?
Regardless, the more I thought about this the less I liked it. It's only strength is in showing the regressive elements (Q, anti-semitism, anti-science, etc.) lying barely below American conservatism, which isn't much of a strength given you can just read Trump's twitter feed instead. And yes, AGNB does this straighter, better, with more humor and humanity.
― the colour out of space (is the place) (PBKR), Saturday, 24 October 2020 13:56 (five years ago)
the whole thing of the first one was seeing mask off racism in America, which...uh... isn't exactly novel these days
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 24 October 2020 14:01 (five years ago)
i was going to watch this but apparently it's only available to amazon prime members?
― trapped out the barndo (crüt), Saturday, 24 October 2020 14:11 (five years ago)
I won't see this as I dislike the reactionary comedian sasha baron cohen and his racist character borat but sic's description sounds like they better realised the part that really sunk the first film for me (aside from just not finding it that funny, after the insane 'most hilarious film ever made, you will throw up your spleen with mirth' critical hyperbole) - the plausible deniability irony cloak relies so much on the ambush comedy aspect but the biggest chunk is the story part so the audience is mainly laughing at *extremely brown guy voice* maaaa waaf lol I'm a barbaric Asian who hates women and Jews wawaweewa but fyi there is no racial aspect to this please never look up the demographics of Kazakhstan on wikipedia yeah baby yeah
― Gab B. Nebsit (wins), Saturday, 24 October 2020 14:15 (five years ago)
Borat is a racist depiction?
Speaking of which, there were the usual specific warnings under the rating as the movie started, and they included "Sexuality, drug use, foul language, nudity, blackface." Was there drug use? Was there blackface?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 October 2020 14:32 (five years ago)
buddy
― Gab B. Nebsit (wins), Saturday, 24 October 2020 14:44 (five years ago)
I meant literally, as it's (still too) commonly depicted. Oh, wait, there's the picture of Trudeau! That's why the warning is there.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 October 2020 14:46 (five years ago)
The blackface was the Justin Trudeau picture.
― Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Saturday, 24 October 2020 14:47 (five years ago)
wins otm
― scampus milne (gyac), Saturday, 24 October 2020 14:48 (five years ago)
I mean clearly there is a US/UK divide here given the confused face ppl are making when we bring this up, but if you look at the thread ‘borat upsetting people’ this isn’t new. Can’t think of a single reason Americans might have a blind spot here obv
― Gab B. Nebsit (wins), Saturday, 24 October 2020 15:04 (five years ago)
Fun fact also, Cohen isn’t American he’s welsh
― Gab B. Nebsit (wins), Saturday, 24 October 2020 15:05 (five years ago)
Welsh/Israeli, born in London.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 October 2020 15:10 (five years ago)