This is the thread in which we anticipate "Capote"

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I refer to him as "Miss Sigh-gone".

400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

Anyway, I think I borrowed the sigh-bracketed-by-double-colons from Alex in NYC!

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

We're totally ruining this thread, guys.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

It's only the internet!

400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

http://communitylink.gopbi.com/groups/755/FSLO-1042165543-983755.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

I am really not anticipating "Capote" very much. Biopics are the pits.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

That is generally true.

400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

I think I like movies to either be completely real or completely made up, make up your mind.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 7 October 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

I sort of agree that biopics are usually not great. I just checked my top 50 of 2000-04, and the only biopic I listed was American Splendor, and even that is arguable as to whether it's actually a biopic.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

The best things about American Splendor are not the biopic things. Also biopics are more tolerable if they're about people who aren't really famous.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 7 October 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

We're totally ruining this thread, guys.

Considering I would've never clicked on this thread twice if it weren't for the tangent, my guess is we're validating this thread.

I just checked my top 50 of 2000-04

Pleast post this.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

You'll make fun of me.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)

And yet:

1. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Gondry, 2004)
2. All the Real Girls (Green, 2003)
3. You Can Count on Me (Lonergan, 2000)
4. 25th Hour (Lee, 2002)
5. Mulholland Dr. (Lynch, 2001)
6. Talk to Her (Almodovar, 2002)
7. Together (Moodysson, 2001)
8. Spirited Away (Miyazaki, 2002)
9. Lost in Translation (Coppola, 2003)
10. A.I.: Artificial Intelligence (Spielberg, 2001)

11. Collateral (Mann, 2004)
12. Before Sunset (Linklater, 2004)
13. Far From Heaven (Haynes, 2002)
14. Y Tu Mama Tambien (Cuaron, 2002)
15. Spellbound (Blitz, 2003)
16. Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon (Lee, 2000)
17. Lilya 4-Ever (Moodysson, 2003)
18. Wet Hot American Summer (Wain, 2001)
19. The Man Who Wasn't There (Coen, 2001)
20. Sideways (Payne, 2004)

21. Amores Perros (Gonzalez Inarritu, 2000)
22. Amelie (Jeunet, 2001)
23. In the Bedroom (Field, 2001)
24. Million Dollar Baby (Eastwood, 2004)
25. Minority Report (Spielberg, 2002)
26. High Fidelity (Frears, 2000)
27. Chuck and Buck (Arteta, 2000)
28. The Company (Altman, 2003)
29. Bully (Clark, 2001)
30. Jesus' Son (MacLean, 2000)

31. Kill Bill Vol. One (Tarantino, 2003)
32. American Splendor (Berman and Pulcini, 2003)
33. Undertow (Green, 2004)
34. Capturing the Friedmans (Jarecki, 2003)
35. Best in Show (Guest, 2000)
36. Adaptation (Jonze, 2002)
37. We Don't Live Here Anymore (Curran, 2004)
38. The Manchurian Candidate (Demme, 2004)
39. Morvern Callar (Ramsay, 2002)
40. 28 Days Later (Boyle, 2003)

41. Punch-Drunk Love (Anderson, 2002)
42. Almost Famous (Crowe, 2000)
43. Shaun of the Dead (Wright, 2004)
44. The Dreamers (Bertolucci, 2004)
45. Memento (Nolan, 2001)
46. Kill Bill Vol Two (Tarantino, 2004)
47. Requiem for a Dream (Aronofsky, 2000)
48. Ghost World (Zwigoff, 2001)
49. Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy (McKay, 2004)
50. Hedwig and the Angry Inch (Mitchell, 2001)

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

Make fun of you? What's become of my ILX persona? Oh, right... those film poll threads.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

I only stand by that as a list I made a couple weeks ago. Always changing, etc.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:27 (twenty years ago)

I was kidding, Eric. ;-)

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:27 (twenty years ago)

It's a decent list.

I didn't like Talk To Her, though.

400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

I don't understand you. But you loved Bad Education, which didn't impress me much.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:29 (twenty years ago)

film critics are the most pompous boring twats ever!

:(

(true tho)

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:29 (twenty years ago)

A.I. in the top ten automatically precludes you from my scorn. It's always interesting to see how many like the first half of Kill Bill more than the second.

Movies from your 50 that show up on my lists of favorites for their respective years.

1. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Gondry, 2004)
4. 25th Hour (Lee, 2002)
5. Mulholland Dr. (Lynch, 2001)
6. Talk to Her (Almodovar, 2002)
8. Spirited Away (Miyazaki, 2002)
10. A.I.: Artificial Intelligence (Spielberg, 2001)
12. Before Sunset (Linklater, 2004)
13. Far From Heaven (Haynes, 2002)
16. Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon (Lee, 2000)
18. Wet Hot American Summer (Wain, 2001)
24. Million Dollar Baby (Eastwood, 2004)
28. The Company (Altman, 2003)
31. Kill Bill Vol. One (Tarantino, 2003)
41. Punch-Drunk Love (Anderson, 2002)
46. Kill Bill Vol Two (Tarantino, 2004)
47. Requiem for a Dream (Aronofsky, 2000)
48. Ghost World (Zwigoff, 2001)

That's a sizable amount. A couple are borderline cases that I imagine a fresh viewing would probably merit demotion (#13, #47), but why do that?

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, actually, the hardest part about coming up with that list was having to deal with the films from four or five years ago that I haven't seen since. I mean, I really liked Chuck and Buck when I saw it in 2000, and its #27 reflects that, but I have a feeling I wouldn't like it nearly as much if I saw it again.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

That's one of the ones I did unfortunately see again a few years later and was, obviously, not charmed by.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)

I like both Talk to Her AND Bad Education.

film critics are the most pompous boring twats ever!

One half is undoubtedly pompous. The other half is obviously boring. But rarely are they both at the same time. Many of them are completely insane. Do you realize how hard it is to be both completely insane and, at the same time, completely boring?

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

hahaha, Eric!

I don't understand you. But you loved Bad Education, which didn't impress me much.

Sorry that I don't make sense.

Bad Education seemed like a tour-de-force.

400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

But so was The Shrinking Lover.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

A totally rad list, John.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 7 October 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

Ha, you've already seen it, Alfred.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)

Just for the hell of it, my top ten of the '00s as it is today, without using the cheat sheet of my own lists.

Femme Fatale
Light is Calling
Kings & Queen
Mulholland Drive
Wet Hot American Summer
Elephant
Pulse
Crimson Gold
Tropical Malady

music video for "Star Guitar" (Chemical Brothers)

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)

You really liked Kings and Queen that much?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, in retrospect I did. Esther Kahn was the immediate sensation, Kings & Queen was the slow-burner.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

Though I did only see it the one time.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

It was too ... messy for me.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)

I'd still like to see a top-50 poll of 2000-2005. The '80s and '70s polls didn't garner as much interest as the '90s just because most of us hadn't seen as many of the films.

jaymc's list is mixed between films I love (25th Hour, Before Sunset) and 'please gouge my eyes out instead' (Lost in Translation, The Dreamers, Lost in Translation, MIllion Dollar Baby, Lost in Translation).


quickie top-10 of the millenium thus far:
25th Hour
Before Sunset
The Straight Story or Mulholland Dr.
Twilight Samurai
Morvern Callar
Jesus' Son
Gosford Park
Band of Brothers (boo-yah)
Bad Santa
Kill Bill Vol. 1

There are a lot of films (including these) I'd put in a top 50, but a top 10 is tough, there are just too few exemplary films coming out each year.

honorable mention to David Gordon Green's movies, which are always interesting, but too flawed for me to really love them. I think he'd be fantastic if someone else would write his damn scripts.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 7 October 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)

The Straight Story or Mulholland Dr.

I'll help you choose. The Straight Story is '99.

Re: messiness... I think that's sort of the effect Desplechin wanted with this particular movie, since any way you cut it, 150+ minutes is a pretty flabby running time. There are obviously better defenses to be made on behalf of the film aside from "it's unpredictable, it's sloppy, it's like real life," because it's not at all like real life. Maybe it's more like real life filtered through that late-night fantasy of what the previous day's events should've been, if only you'd been more honest, and by "honest," I mean brutal and nasty and tough-lovey.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

There are obviously better defenses to be made on behalf of the film aside from "it's unpredictable, it's sloppy, it's like real life,"

C-ing my A -- By that I mean that my own defense of the film as messy is not necessarily adequate, not that your dismissal of the film as messy is not adequate.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 21:22 (twenty years ago)

Well, anyway, the clip on the Daily Show seemed sweet, mostly because I've long been fond of the Capote voice. But I'm not entirely sure I can sit through a whole movie of it. We'll see if it comes to the second run theaters here.

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 7 October 2005 21:47 (twenty years ago)

My film-actor friend wrote Capote!

aimurchie (aimurchie), Friday, 7 October 2005 22:11 (twenty years ago)

Ha, you've already seen it, Alfred.
-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), October 7th, 2005.

But I have to reprezent over here.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 7 October 2005 22:41 (twenty years ago)

My Capote-critical friend wrote a film critic, once.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 22:45 (twenty years ago)

some bizarre lists, guys!

Not that I'm going to post one of my own.

400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 22:46 (twenty years ago)

Casuistry: you should go to Capote for sure as they filmed it here in Winnipeg. You might recognize something!

Bryan (Bryan), Friday, 7 October 2005 22:51 (twenty years ago)

Not that I'm going to post one of my own.

I could post your 5-star DVDs over at Netflix, but I won't.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 22:56 (twenty years ago)

hahaha! touche'. Can't a man enjoy a good cheerleader high school movie and rate it accordingly?

400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 22:59 (twenty years ago)

Can't a man enjoy the adventures of awkward robot Johnny 5?

400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 22:59 (twenty years ago)

Can't a man enjoy the "art" of Vincent Gallo and Harmony Korine?

400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 23:01 (twenty years ago)

Does at man not split his sides at Ren & Stimpy? If you show him Dumbo, does he not shed a tear?

400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 23:02 (twenty years ago)

You gave The Brown Bunny 2 stars.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 23:03 (twenty years ago)

Will he not give "Rocky & Bullwinkle" a 4 star rating even if no other man is around to sing its praises?

xp Brown Bunny!

400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 23:03 (twenty years ago)

I mean Buffalo 66!

400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 23:03 (twenty years ago)

I know, I just wanted to point out that at least one of your questions is rhetorical.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 23:04 (twenty years ago)


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