iyo did facebook ruin the internet?

Facebook is the only way I can stay in touch with the majority of my friends, very few of whom even live in the same country as me, and sad as it is, deleting their accounts literally means I'm unlikely to hear from them ever again. I wouldn't even know where to start, tracking down their emails somehow, then what to say then? I have very little chance of being able to ever meet them irl as I have young kids and a job and can't afford to travel. I really can't stand Facebook but it would leave a hole if I deleted it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0MK7qz13bU

I've said it elsewhere before but Facebook is weird in how it not only makes it easier to prevent the natural manner in which people lose touch over time, but it also reverses it; I've had classmates I forgot even existed who I last saw in elementary school in the mid-to-late '80s send me a friend request and suddenly memories start to trickle back about these people. And it shouldn't have happened, I didn't really want it to happen. Some things and people are meant to be left in the past and forgotten.

nationalize google and facebook asap imo. or at least treat them as essential utilities subject to strict operating terms in exchange for more or less fixed, reliable, blue-chip profits and limited competition. at&t wasn't great but that model beats the current status quo.

I guess having lived in different countries all my adult life and now living in a different part of the UK to that I grew up in, plus having no time for social life means maybe this is more a problem for me than other people. If it weren't for Facebook I would literally only communicate with my family, wife, kids and colleagues. So yeah maybe it's artificial and maybe it's better not to try to bring to life dead friendships but this is the only game in town right now.

People get very upset if other people, that they barely know or have little real interaction with, unfriend them. It's super weird. I try to unfriend people every month.

Being on the socials “with” people is only sort of like being in touch with them.

I never used the site when it was in it's hey day, but I find Facebook annoying as hell and only use it mostly as an email site as I have many friends that only use it and won't use regular email at all anymore. Use it for the same reason to contact dive bars to book shows for my band, as there are many FBs the only way to contact them.

They say people really want to keep in touch, but by my experience that is only kinda true even with more ways to do so.

If people message me via FB I tell them off and direct them to txt/email me. I dont use/install the messenger app, so FB messenger doesnt even work unless i'm on a desktop machine.

The thing I wish would go away is twitter. Itd make journalists have to start actually doing their damn jobs again.

OTM. The first time I ever saw tweets from randos reported on, I was stunned.

So yeah maybe it's artificial and maybe it's better not to try to bring to life dead friendships but this is the only game in town right now.

I don't do the Facebook*. So I'm curious: do you think if you deleted your account, that after, say, 6 months you'd miss it at all?

I wouldn't miss Facebook at all. I would miss almost all the friends I have left, and who I would then be out of touch with. This is a fairly pathetic and embarrassing thing to say, but it's the truth.

I would start a movement to bring back USENET. Although usenet isnt that different to Reddit I suppose.

Friends who don’t have your phone number aren’t real friends

The only people I'm totally comfortable calling my friends are the ones I'd gladly give a kidney to

Never liked phoning people and have been living in different countries most of my adult life. Barely know my own phone number, even talk to parents by message usually. You know, it's almost like people have different lives and making generalisations about what works for you might not be true for me.

To be clear, you don’t have to make calls to stay in touch with a phone number. That’s what Signal and WhatsApp use and you can use them to have rolling chat threads with photographs and everything

i like facebook ... i use it for connecting with my parents. my dad likes to post reminisces about college for his college friends. same with my mom. and they are connected with people in iran via facebook. so that gives me a little window into their lives before i was born, and it's cool to see them interact with their friends and philosophize about life. and i think it makes them very happy when i *like* their posts. i already see my parents at least once a week and we talk almost every day on the phone but this just adds another layer. same w/ my sister and close friends who i don't get to see often because of geography / kids / schedule. so in that regard it's nice.

and maybe i'm a rube but that NYT interview with zuckerberg made me feel better about the whole fiasco

Heh, remember that time AOL owned CNN?

I like the fact that if I post a cat picture on Facebook I can get a LIKE from a former member of Whitehouse and my mum.

What, you're friends with McMaster or something?

http://media.riffsy.com/images/7c1d71cf6382dc30df8ae84c40d0bf64/tenor.gif

Downloaded my facebook data as a ZIP file

Somehow it has my entire call history with my partner's mum pic.twitter.com/CIRUguf4vD

— Dylan McKay (@dylanmckaynz) March 21, 2018

read the whole thread...

I’m now bothered by the presence of WhatsApp on my device.

I'm giving sideway glances to Instagram!

I deleted Instagram, my friends all send me pictures of their cats directly.

oh I would assume instagram is doing 100% of the exact same shit

whatsapp deleted from personal phone

I get friend requests on IG so infrequently, I barely remember to even check it.

I haven't been on FB in a month, but went in there this week and deleted a bunch of app information (see above at my wonderment over Zedge.)

And last night, I got fucking HIT with half a dozen friend requests on IG - all from people I haven't spoken to in ten years who are exactly the people I was tired of dealing with on FB in the first place.

imo did facebook ruin facebook, yes, shitty fucking site does not work at all

for some reason I can no longer see notifications in browser, really weird... of course there's no such thing as a facebook helpdesk, but I guess this will be as good a time as any to stop using the site

I do have a page for my band, for promotional purposes, and yesterday a friend of mine mentioned the band in a comment, I received a notification by email - clicking it takes me to a statistical overview of interactions, I've no idea how I can find the actual comment

so useless

https://gizmodo.com/why-we-finally-feel-betrayed-by-facebook-1824032214

The Cambridge Analytica scandal will run its course, and Facebook will change its policies (again). Mark Zuckerberg will keep telling us that Facebook will try harder. He might have to testify before Congress, but it remains to be seen whether that will lead to any new regulations for companies like Facebook. People will keep using Facebook and Instagram and all the other apps in the family. All those apps will keep collecting data, and the data you’ve already surrendered will still be out there.

otm

Hell I have an old Livejournal Ive had since 2001 and that sites owned by Russians, its probably way more in peril and I really should just delete it.

― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, March 21, 2018 9:43

A day after I posted this some random russian LJ user liked the only public post visible on my blog, from 2010. Its is the first time anyone has looked at/done anthing on my livejournal in YEARS so it isnt a coink.

I think this is worth noting, y'all.

(As in, are there russian trollfarmers lurking here?)

There are definitely Russians here. They keep trying to register .ru accounts

wait, ru's bugging trayce, are we sure it's russians and not...

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS1EgKPiC4I3NW8gMd8QYVJS2_vXhgR4G7gEJZLEP9Y8a9mFa00sw

"MATE, THIS SHIELA CALLED ANGELA MERKEL WANTS TO LET MUSLIMS TAKE OVER EUROPE"

Friends who don’t have your phone number aren’t real friends

Howbout if you only have a landline? That's me.

https://i.imgur.com/M1X1WKP.jpg

Facebook apparently has donated only to GOP congressional PACs:

https://www.fec.gov/data/disbursements/?two_year_transaction_period=2018&cycle=2018&data_type=processed&committee_id=C00502906&min_date=01%2F01%2F2017&max_date=03%2F25%2F2018&line_number=F3X-23

seein mccaskill and tester in that list tho, but yeah theres a lot of GOP

I see a lot more of CYA than GOP on that list.

Yeah sorry, looks a little more balanced the further you scroll down.

I posted after I saw the terrible trio of Nunes, Issa & Denham in a row.

Giving money to Nunes = nope

Problems problems!

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2018/03/statement-acting-director-ftcs-bureau-consumer-protection

The FTC is firmly and fully committed to using all of its tools to protect the privacy of consumers. Foremost among these tools is enforcement action against companies that fail to honor their privacy promises, including to comply with Privacy Shield, or that engage in unfair acts that cause substantial injury to consumers in violation of the FTC Act. Companies who have settled previous FTC actions must also comply with FTC order provisions imposing privacy and data security requirements. Accordingly, the FTC takes very seriously recent press reports raising substantial concerns about the privacy practices of Facebook. Today, the FTC is confirming that it has an open non-public investigation into these practices.

And apparently the stock's crashing further.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/facebook-container/

making the rounds this morning -- an oldie but a goodie

http://www.businessinsider.com/well-these-new-zuckerberg-ims-wont-help-facebooks-privacy-problems-2010-5

Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard

Zuck: Just ask.

Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS

[Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one?

Zuck: People just submitted it.

Zuck: I don't know why.

Zuck: They "trust me"

Zuck: Dumb fucks.

.@facebook’s approval is plummeting “particularly large among Democrats & Democratic-leaning independents.” Zuckerberg couldn’t care less about the Left. He’ll continues to do to nothing to tackle the problem.

Exclusive poll: Facebook favorability plunges https://t.co/U3yeJLRSYt

— Philippe Reines (@PhilippeReines) March 27, 2018

I downloaded my info from fb. Nothing exciting or surprising (thankfully). Although, I have never used fb to log into any other account ever. I have been side-eyeing that option for years.

Zuckerberg couldn’t care less about the Left.

More to the point, he couldn't care less about 'approval', so long as his detractors continue to use Facebook and his personal fortune remains well above $50 billion.