I don't know why the only thing I specifically recall as a development during season 2 is the drama surrounding Valchek's stained glass windows.
Oh, wait, shit, season 2 was Ziggy, wasn't it. I clearly need to rewatch this thing for a third time.
― The Secret Ingrediant is Love (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 14:52 (six years ago) link
heard this is a good show, started watching it, halfway through S1 and it's really great!
I've heard that too, watched the first six or so episodes years ago and didn't feel that moved to continue but someday I'll give it another go
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 15:18 (six years ago) link
Glad to see the word's finally getting out about this show. It's so weird that HBO's hourlong dramas never get any buzz.
― The Secret Ingrediant is Love (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 15:31 (six years ago) link
o_O
― mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 16:54 (six years ago) link
I think it's great that people are still getting to experience this show for the first time.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 17:00 (six years ago) link
I've seen several of the HBO dramatic series. They're pretty good! It's just surprising to me that I never hear anything about them in the press or via word of mouth. Oh, well. Maybe someday they'll get their due.
(I'm lampooning you, mh. It was a simple lampoon.)
― The Secret Ingrediant is Love (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 17:25 (six years ago) link
I figured you needed a straightman to sell it
― mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 17:26 (six years ago) link
Season 2 is the worst. Get through it.
― Nhex, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 17:45 (six years ago) link
Wrong
― Number None, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 17:50 (six years ago) link
Having watched the show in its entirety multiple times, I think I'd rank it just below s4
― Number None, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 17:53 (six years ago) link
i prefer it to s1. fred b otm about the reasons for its slow start, which is less frustrating on rewatch, as is the way the barksdale org stuff feels compartmentalized for the whole season while it sets up s3. (3 and 4's political stuff would also be shallower had you not surfaced into it from s2's grain pier scenes.) s1 is p much self-contained but s2, as it were, plugs the show into a thematic supply chain it will need going forward
that makes it sound dry tho and i mean: frank
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 18:41 (six years ago) link
s2 is one of the best, but i didn't like it the first time around
― marcos, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 18:42 (six years ago) link
you get so into the street and its world and characters and then you are lurched out and taken into the world of these dumb fucking longshoremen
― Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 18:52 (six years ago) link
but yeah it is actually a good season. love frank sobotka 4eva
― Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 18:53 (six years ago) link
s1->s4 is a progressive (cumulative, really) improvement and s5 is not that much of a quality dip
― Simon H., Tuesday, 20 March 2018 18:55 (six years ago) link
lol the same discussion about S2 in this thread so many times
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 18:56 (six years ago) link
we still have some time to go before definitive answer is established
Best season of The Wire
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 18:58 (six years ago) link
Yup. It's usually prompted by people watching it for the first time though, and it is jarring in that context
3 is the overrated season
― Number None, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 18:58 (six years ago) link
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, March 20, 2018 2:56 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
true
― marcos, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 19:01 (six years ago) link
nicky sobotka looks like he smells bad
― marcos, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 19:03 (six years ago) link
lmao at that wire poll ending presumably after human extinction
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 19:22 (six years ago) link
Ziggy is unforgivable. I don't mean as a character, I mean as a thing that writers thought up to make the audience suffer through. But I'll stop
― Nhex, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 19:30 (six years ago) link
5 is the worst season and, as Simon notes, it's not that much worse than the rest. And it's almost entirely due to the just...mindblowing stupidity of McNulty. I mean, seriously, what the fuck, McNutty.
― The Secret Ingrediant is Love (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 19:39 (six years ago) link
Every time I think of season 5, I basically go through the same process as Bunk once he starts seeing the wheels turning on McNulty's 'amazing' plan. Oh...oh, no. Oh hell no. You have got to be fucking kidding me right now.
― The Secret Ingrediant is Love (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 19:41 (six years ago) link
McNulty is not a man who was meant to keep the wheels on
― mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 19:52 (six years ago) link
5 basically sucks bcz they didn't get the spinoff AND had the order cut, so it tried to cram what would have been covered in 19 episodes into 10
the ramping up of McNutty's lunacy would have been bearable if given more room
― just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 20:10 (six years ago) link
the reporter characters were also boring
― while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 20:44 (six years ago) link
What spinoff was that? Also I thought I read somewhere (this thread??) that DS said that the decision for 10 episodes was his/the writers', not HBO.
― MarmiteGrrrl (Leee), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 21:19 (six years ago) link
Simon wanted to do six-episode series of The Hall in between S3/S4 and S4/S5. A lot of the Carcetti / Norman / Clay Davis type stuff would have happened in those, setting up political status quo for each following season of The Wire.
― just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 21:26 (six years ago) link
5 is the worst because it’s so hard to hear the dialogue over the sound of David simon grinding his axe
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 22:40 (six years ago) link
This series isn't always bad, but it is no Juliet Bravo or The Shield.
― calzino, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 22:43 (six years ago) link
fuck you! and your window!
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 21 March 2018 22:32 (six years ago) link
two episodes into S2 and I like it!
― the masseduction of lauryn hill (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 21 March 2018 23:07 (six years ago) link
The vibes of S1 and S2 are so different and jarring.
Always liked how this person stayed true to the themes with these Breaking Bad parodies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiNdBGjxNzo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhX7hvzlaGc
― pplains, Wednesday, 21 March 2018 23:25 (six years ago) link
lmao omg
― the masseduction of lauryn hill (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 22 March 2018 00:13 (six years ago) link
S1 is pretty underrated at this point, i feel like there's so much gold in there as we get to meet the characters. really love the slow unfolding of Lester Freamon's character throughout the first several episodes.
― omar little, Thursday, 22 March 2018 00:17 (six years ago) link
marcosPosted: March 20, 2018 at 12:03:48 PMnicky sobotka looks like he smells badhow dare u
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 March 2018 02:39 (six years ago) link
i always liked s2especially the whole subplot with the stupud fuckin stained glass window
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 March 2018 02:40 (six years ago) link
whoever is playing Ziggy feels like he took all his acting cues from the kid from T2
― the masseduction of lauryn hill (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 22 March 2018 03:40 (six years ago) link
1. how dare you besmirch Edward Furlong2. the guy is actually a good actor, I've seen him in other roles like Generation Kill where he's not super annoying. he was definitely directed this way
― Nhex, Thursday, 22 March 2018 05:31 (six years ago) link
― Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, March 20, 2018 2:52 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm
― flopson, Thursday, 22 March 2018 06:11 (six years ago) link
s1 is great, whenever I think of it I always picture avon startling daniels wagging that finger as he glides past, one of the best wire moments
― ogmor, Thursday, 22 March 2018 09:09 (six years ago) link
xxpost Yeah, I've been surprised to realize that Ziggy actor is Ziggy actor when I've seen him in other things.
― The Secret Ingrediant is Love (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 March 2018 12:20 (six years ago) link
especially the whole subplot with the stupud fuckin stained glass window
It's not just a subplot, it's how it all gets rolling!
― Simon H., Thursday, 22 March 2018 12:59 (six years ago) link
It also sticks with me as a wholly believable catalyst for police/political action. A huge criminal investigation is initiated not by any true interest in justice but because a police commissioner is feeling butthurt over a petty rivalry.
― The Secret Ingrediant is Love (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 March 2018 13:06 (six years ago) link
^^ lol i was thinking exactly this yesterday (just finished up s2 e2)
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 22 March 2018 13:08 (six years ago) link
I can see where a petty rivalry starts to snowball, but over that?
― pplains, Thursday, 22 March 2018 13:47 (six years ago) link
are you doing a full rewatch brad?
― Simon H., Thursday, 22 March 2018 13:48 (six years ago) link
xpdon't see why it couldn't be even more trivial. I don't doubt that police commissioners have abused their power for pettier reasons irl
― tsrobodo, Thursday, 22 March 2018 17:06 (six years ago) link
I don't get the chafing over S2's attention on the stevedores -- doesn't the show set up a parallel between them and the streets? At the very least, they're pretty funny.
― #FIERCE #FLAWLESS #SLAY (Leee), Thursday, 22 March 2018 17:29 (six years ago) link