Young Kirk n Spock + Lost = new Star Trek movie

they never really explained why/how he fucked that errand up. sounds like he was covering his ass too... "and while i was on my way there, something terrible happened!"

Otm. I thought he was going be in that icy cave for an "All Our Yesterdays" rendezvous with Mariette Hartley.

In fact, he should have blamed the whole screwup on Mr. Atoz, if not the Guardian of Forever.

he said "the unthinkable happened", sort of suggesting that they miscalculated when the supernova would occur or that he was late for some unknown reason. weak!

Old Spock was fine for the most part but yeah they didn't seem too interested in the hows/whys of his appearance (I was kinda irritated that Spock didn't seem to have any inclination or concern about returning to his own timeline, surely they coulda shoehorned a slingshot around the sun in there for him or something)

he said "the unthinkable happened"

i get that they wanted to give chekov another thing to do, but it just seemed weird that his special skill overlapped almost perfectly with scottsie's.

His special skill of killing Spock's mom?

yeah he didn't do too well on that one huh.

that was Chekov, no? It's been 2 weeks+. I've already had this trivial piece of product fade from memory.

He saw the Age of Innocence. xp

ha ha good cover morbs

oh morbs

Slightly stupid question perhaps, but there was someone groaning in a handicapped way throughout the movie who kept distracting me, when young Spock flew the craft at the end in the whole "there's only a 4 per cent chance this will work" part, how did he end up safe and back on the Enterprise? I was wondering what happened him and then hey presto there he was, did it resolve in half a second as I looked away or something?

he got beamed in. scotty goes "i've never beamed three people from two destinations onto the same pad before"!

also what does "groaning in a handicapped way" mean

also why was there such a low chance of that working when the plan was basically, spock gets into a ship and shoots a chain

spocks not very good at math

do you think he misplaced the decimal and there was actually a 400% chance

that's why kirk was so insistent on the plan working. he didn't want to insult spock by calling him out on his math skills though.

the person was making weird moans throughout the movie, suggesting they had some mental disability, but I'm not actually sure if they did or did not.

insistent that the plan would work, rather

the person was making weird moans throughout the thread, suggesting they had some mental disability, but I'm not actually sure if they did or did not.

enough on the animal collective thread already!

was the enterprise bigger, smaller or the same size as a supermarket?

"there's only a 4 per cent chance this will work"
was this in the movie? this is used in original series about a zillion times (spock quantifies success as very low, kirk marches in anyway), so it is most likely a tribute rather than a failing unique to the movie.

"was the enterprise bigger, smaller or the same size as a supermarket?"
I don't think you see more than a supermarket's worth of the enterprise unless you count that weird scotty in the sewage pipe sequence. That is probably the one invention in the movie without reference to star trek or star wars.

water pipes?

they've been around for a bit.

this was pretty damn good. handful of annoying/questionable things already covered in here, but a+ entertainment.

http://www.pinenet.com/~rooster/trekjews.html

Never forget.

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xpost - Hey Local Garda - after young Spock destroys the drilling/jamming device, he is safely transported back to the enterprise at the same moment that Kirk & Pike are beamed back.

I know this because I have now seen this movie 3 times. Once at an early screening, once with gf, once with parents. It's still exciting too... not that I really need to see it a 4th time.

At this point I'm going to argue that it's the best Trek film ever made. The only arguments for II being superior are based on camp, melodrama, and Montalban. Which are all totally valid, but still don't make Khan a movie with less holes you can poke in it...

I also just want to shout out randomly that I bought this cool diamond chrome & glass shelf last year and put it on display in my living room. A few months later, I spotted it in JT Kirk's SF apartment in II, III, and according to online trivia it was repurposed for a TNG episode called Farpoint.

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/inconsistencies/props/shelf-startrekii.jpg

I liked this well enough for summer fluff. I'm not going to load the whole thread to see if it's already been mentioned, but one thing that irritated me is how uninjured Pike looked when Kirk rescued him...just a little schmutz at the corners of his mouth. That critter that dug through his soft palate was the size of a big crawfish. He should either have drowned in his own blood or at least been bloody from nose to navel.

(dangles shiny pocket watch in front of WmC)

You shall forget about insectoid crawfish eating Pike's soft palate. Pike's soft palate does not interest you.

that insect is the same one that went in Chekhov's ear in Khan, and it didn't do him any longer term harm!

I actually thought this was good despite the fact that I hate Abrams, hated the look of the square-jawed jock Kirk, hate prequels, really despise the alternative timeline aspect and hated the lens flare. A lot better than most Hollywood movies i've seen in the last few years.

better than Slumdog Millionaire, granted

certainly.

but your last sentence in the ptevious post is grading on a curve. Hollywood films have never been worse.

Hollywood films have never been worse.

^ i'll give you that much!

Really? I'm not nearly that pessimistic about Hollywood blockbusters but come on, worse than the 90s?

Also I almost admire your level of dedication to hating, Morbius

Let's be fair to the doc, I think he's going longue durée on the shitness of films. In any case I fully enjoyed this film. I watched La Grande Illusion last night, this didn't come near it, but it more than approximated an enjoyable 2 hours.

well yeah, Grand Illusion is not a souped-up exploitation of a TV show.

I don't hate this movie. I hate the idea that it represents the pinnacle of mainstream entertainment to a disturbingly large number of people.

And I can't believe no one told the writers that "Bones" is just an abbrev of "Sawbones," which is what you called a doctor way-back-when.

http://www.thehousenextdooronline.com/2009/05/star-trek-90210-or-star-trash-or.html

It’s all piff-paff, whack-bang, etc, packed with heaps of post-modernist “irony” or whatever it is they call this bollocks. Nudge nudge, wink wink ahoy. We are all wallowing in a never-ending adolescence these days. So, instead of making us laugh, J.J. Abrams just wants to make us feel clever, and the whole thing becomes a big ego-massage. Like buying an I-Pod....

Abrams’s background in TV is most obvious in his compositions: A one shot of Kirk—CUT—a close up of Spock—CUT—a two shot of the star-crossed lovers’ resisting the urge to play a round of tonsil tennis—CUT—a one shot of Kirk, etc, with coruscating beams of light in the background that blind the retinas.

I don't hate this movie. I hate the idea that it represents the pinnacle of mainstream entertainment to a disturbingly large number of people.

Well, as long as you've got something to hate.

The movie is a carnival ride, Morbs. It's not the greatest carnival ride ever built by a long shot, but it has no ambitions to be a drama, a comedy, a musical or anything else. You judge it against stuff like Transformers: The Movie, and not A Streetcar Named Desire.

As it happens, a large segment of the movie-going population is in high school and they have no idea that a goodish carnival ride is a bit shy of true greatness, because face it high schoolers are always going to have very shallow standards.

also, calling a movie "a ride" I most DEFINITELY hate.

I'm not talking about teenages, I'm talking about intelligent ILXors.

Is this movie worth seeing if you were not especially a fan of the TV series or the prior movies?

Try to catch it at matinee prices if you can.