Avengers: Infinity War

fyi
Under the terms of the agreement, which is expected to close in late 2018 or early to mid 2019, pending regulatory approval

we're a long ways out, assuming it doesn't fall through

Ah well I guess we’ll see

being in the middle of a big merger/spin-off thing at my own workplace, the misunderstanding of timelines is very relatable

another couple years and we'll have this finished

so what is endgame for this universe? are our great grandkids going to have Avengers films?

they'll taper off, then fifteen years later someone will try to add a movie in the same chronology and it'll flop, after which they'll badly reboot it

Rise of the Starks

It just occurred to me yesterday that there's only been two major cast changes in the decade that the MCU has existed, and even those happened very early on. This thing has been surprisingly well planned out. I'm sure they have another decade roughly sketched out, although I'm somewhat at a loss in terms of guessing how that will play out.

My current prediction is that, if Skrulls are a big enough deal in the Captain Marvel movie, the unnamed Avengers movie might be a take on Secret Invasion. Which could make for another big shake-up of the status quo. I think we'll probably see an expansion of the cosmic and magic stuff, as well. Beyond that, who knows. She-Hulk, maybe? Ms. Marvel?

Who besides Rhodes?

Norton > Ruffalo

that Hulk was such a nothing of a movie

oh yeah. Ruffalo was a big improvement. Cheadle is kind of a non-entity in these. Too bad they didn't keep Howard.

I kinda like the Hulk flick. It's the MCU's b-movie. And it's better than Ang Lee's gamma-irradiated turkey.

(I'm trying to talk the gf into rewatching all seventeen(!!!) of the MCU movies that are on blu-ray with me before the new one drops next month. I can give a more up-to-date review when/if that actually happens.)

I’ve been calling this “Avengers: Infinity Fuck” in my head ever since it was first announced years ago, I just wanted to mention that

And it's better than Ang Lee's gamma-irradiated turkey.

this is incorrect

The Ang Lee one is very bad.

i like the Ang

Yeah me too

I liked Bana as Banner but that's as far as I would go. The split screen stuff was terrible.

I'm surprised that Lee's literary adaptations don't use flipping pages as scene transitions. You know, like a book!

the Hulk movies are so bad that it feels like there's been three or four of them, from a "shit I will avoid watching in favor of [sports / lawyer movies] if that's all that's on [cable / the airplane seatback]" perspective. One or the other seems like it keeps popping up and who can tell if it's Bana or Norton? Ultimately, who cares? There is no good 3-act arc in Bruce Banner's existence. It is an eternal violent struggle with rage and the absurd, unwillingly waged by one of the smartest men alive, and the latter always loses. Does not translate to popcorn movie. Does not need a archvillain.

On the other hand, I wouldn't be against Tim Blake Nelson returning to be one of the pillars of The Intelligencia in round 2 / phase 3 / whatever.

I feel like Victor Von won't get his proper due until there is a titular origin film about Doctor Doom (as implied, I think, in Sparkle Motion's "Bad Wakanda" comment above) and the other prerequisite being that some brilliant character design genius can translate his look onto the screen without looking like a nickel-plated luchadore mask or either throwing out the baby with the bathwater and just giving him a metal face.

Ironically the Corman production of FF was the most faithful to Doom’s costume out of the 4 attempts so far.

There is no good 3-act arc in Bruce Banner's existence. It is an eternal violent struggle with rage and the absurd, unwillingly waged by one of the smartest men alive, and the latter always loses.

not a fan of PAD's run?

(overall otm point tho)

By coincidence I watched the most recent Fantastic Four movie yesterday - in theory I liked the idea of Doom the Redditor, but iirc they pulled back on that, as befits a movie which is a collision of bad ideas and likable actors (and Miles Teller)

I caught the first 15 minutes of the Silver Surfer one not long ago and was kind of impressed how well they captured the tone of the FF- it was incredibly goofy but no less so than any mid-80s stretch of the comics.

Yeah no those are good.

Hm, dunno. Can't he just be a big bad guy?

https://io9.gizmodo.com/heres-why-the-avengers-are-thanos-supporting-characters-1823921364

Thanos is the hero

If this is at all like the comic, then I assume the movie will be a lot of Thanos consolidating his galactic/cosmic power, there will be cuts to Strange or Thor or whomever mumbling about a disturbance in the force of something, and that it will end with the cliffhanger of everyone dead. I mean, there is so little the previous movies have done with Thanos that they have a lot of ground to make up. Then again, I always thought Ultron was a great villain, but they turned him into a boring one-off in the last Avengers movie, so who knows.

yeah assume the r rating has to do with the murder of half of the universe's population

I believe the R rating is only a rumor at this point and I would be surprised if Disney let that happen.

It won't be rated R. I mean, the first one was almost R, too, but there is no way this movie is hitting theaters as an R.

I mean, you've gotta let the kids in if you expect to sell them Thanos bedsheets.

Exactly. Plus, cosmic violence is bloodless.

I always thought Ultron was a great villain, but they turned him into a boring one-off in the last Avengers movie, so who knows.

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, March 21, 2018 1:29 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I mentioned this somewhere (maybe upthread?) but after I started to notice that the MCU has a really bad habit of killing off most of their villains, I started to wonder if that wasn't perhaps an intentional opening to have Thanos rectify the situation...

https://mindreels.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/eps59_abbottcostellofrankenstein.jpg

Coincidentally, in musing about where the MCU goes once the current phase is capped off, it seemed to me that delving into the monsterverse (Werewolf by Night, Man-Thing, the Blade reboot that's been floated) is one entirely possible route. Maybe we'll get the Tim & Eric Meet Manphibian film that our generation so richly deserves.

the R rating tweet upthread was a joke. is there anybody seriously rumoring it will be R?

MCU villains that it was a mistake to kill off:
Red Skull
Killmonger
Ultron

MCU villains that they haven't killed that I want to see again:
Dormammu

Villains that they haven't killed that I don't want to see again:
Loki

So far their burn rate seems pretty ok. I can't blame them for wanting to make the MCU as big as possible and keeping the baddies fresh is a decent way to do it.

Loki eats it in the first 40 minutes, callin' it

the R rating tweet upthread was a joke. is there anybody seriously rumoring it will be R?

i've set my mind on nude thanos now goddammit and i'm gonna be real ticked off if i don't see the purple-headed monster's purple-headed monster

I believe I read somewhere that he's going to discover the existence of a seventh 'virility' gem. But where to put it?!?

https://steemitimages.com/DQmdK9AuFKQxt79KzSKTYiHCHQJ4QgC2JuAWz2XQAvC32W3/infinity.jpg

Thanos is a boring character. Starlin's comics are good because they have all of Marvel's crazy cosmic beings in them.

And Ant-Man is the shittiest silver age Marvel comic hands down. This thing is not that thing.

I loved the hell out of some ant-man in marvel comics presents in the early 90s

he’s a guy who can shrink and talk to ants, obviously the premise writes itself

What do they talk about?

basketball

Like, "what would it be like to be tall enough to play basketball?" And then Antman is all "well, let me show you!" And then he grows back to normal size but accidentally squishes them and is all "ah, man, sorry little guys!" But he's afraid to shrink back down, because they might be mad at him.

he talks _to_ them, they obviously can't talk back. they're ants! sheesh