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LL did you ever see 2 Days in Paris?

I loathed the third movie after loving the first two

xp - nope

I mean does he really get her?

I might just be being a stoopid romantic, and sure he gets her physically and emotionally for a night, but he basically falls for her and then they are separated.

Until the second movie, she will always be his "what if" and those can be fucking painful.

you're right, it's just that personally my sympathy for this guy is sub-zero
i am not a romantic!

although i do enjoy unexplored/unfulfilled romantic potential precisely because it is painful
life is full of those "what ifs" -- that's just the way it is

Jesse is a nicer version of his Reality Bytes character. The 90s had all sorts of these turnip, shitbag dream boys. I loved them all.

At least Celine has a personality and things to say in this movie.

Jesse was a fool from the start.

Jesse was a fool from the start.

I feel like I dislike all of Ethan Hawk's characters 10 x's more now because he cheated on Uma Thurman. The kid from Explorers...canceled!

if you're in this kind of mood i bet you'd like 2 Days In Paris LL! it's got a similar rambly vibe, and Delpy stars, writes, produces and directs, and there is a lot of people not quite getting what they want. it's also very funny (as i remember it). and the thing about French condoms is true ime

If you ever need to stoke the flames of Ethan Hawke hatred, watch his godforsake Chelsea Hotel movie

godforsaken

I've seen him around NYC with or w/out his kids occasionally, and the sight and sound of him just annoys me. Even when he's pitching for a nonprofit movie theater.

https://www.facebook.com/filmforumnyc/videos/10155506693112075/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfIPUzi_FbU

WTF is this movie and how have I never heard of this!?! Maybe I blocked it out. Did everyone owe him a favor that year?

Everyone hates him and I never really understood why. OK, I do understand why but he's never bothered me. LOL Yerac - that kid from the explorers. Good EH knowledge. OK and fine yes he was my first celebrity crush and I will always love him so I might be biased but I still thing he's really talented. Also, Jesse's supposed to be what 23 - ish? Most 23 year olds are fools and still act like adolescents imo so that never bothered me.

I was smack in the middle of the target demographic for the movie when it came out and had no interest in seeing it then. I was a 20 year old who thought romance was for chumps. Now that I have finally seen it, I am glad I waited because I rather enjoyed the scenery, etc and would have completely hated the romantic content when I was 20. Will check Netflix!

embarrassing personal history story

I saw it in the theater when it was new, with a woman who I had been dating for a month or so. I guess I was 24. This was only my second grown up relationship (not counting high school stuff) and I definitely did not have a handle yet on how to manage/integrate the various feelings -- good odd and bad -- that come up within oneself during a romantic relationship. So we saw this movie and SOMETHING about it -- not the specific incidents but its overall effect, its 'geste' -- freaked me the FUCK out about relationships and the next day I broke up with her. I don't remember exactly what was going through my head. It was a good early-stage relationship before that & something about this movie 'proved' to me that it had to be ceased posthaste!

saw Before Sunrise once on VHS and am also now annoyed to learn that a later one says "they definitely fucked"

i'm still surprised that people thought they didn't ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

yeah, it seems so clear and unambiguous!

She's wearing a t-shirt under her dress when they enter the park. In the next scene the t-shirt is gone. That's how you know they had sex.

I lived in Vienna for 10 years and this film has always been very special to me

OK sure but she also could have just taken off her top.

I'm definitely watching this tonight. It's been a long time and I want to but also I want to go back and see if I can pinpoint what made me assume they did. I know that they do talk about not sleeping together but something about that scene and their next morning interactions just made me think it happened.

I feel like I dislike all of Ethan Hawk's characters 10 x's more now because he cheated on Uma Thurman.

par for the course with this guy! one good thing about getting older is forgetting a lot of things that don't really need to be remembered, like my seething repulsion for ethan hawke's characters and by extension, him.
i tried to list the things i didn't like about him in my head and the list got too long.

when i posted upthread, i really thought she had in a way rejected him -- said yeah we can have a fun evening and remember it always, but nah on the permanent longing emotional distress that comes from being attached to someone in that way. i liked her character a lot and don't begrudge her the decision to do it, but liked the movie better when i thought she hadn't. he is exactly the kind of american dude you would meet on the train. i like talking to strangers, i know how it is!

https://scontent.fphl1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/270555_185746998146674_3783784_n.jpg?oh=c659322957028d832e13754ec45c7d06&oe=5B019110

if you're in this kind of mood i bet you'd like 2 Days In Paris LL! it's got a similar rambly vibe, and Delpy stars, writes, produces and directs, and there is a lot of people not quite getting what they want. it's also very funny (as i remember it). and the thing about French condoms is true ime

this does sound appealing. will look it up!

i did like the cow dudes and was disappointed they didn't go to the play

alfred, care to say why you loathed the 3rd

before sunrise is one of my favourites

i also don't understand why people hate ethan hawke so much

i actually like quite a few of his movies

i guess i can understand if they don't like him because he cheated on his wife but i never read about that, so i'm not sure how public it was

i was stoked when one day i found someone had made a music video using footage from the movie set to mojave 3's in love with a view

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi_rccceJHQ

also it was cool that most of before sunrise was adlibbed by ethan hawke and julie delpy

I remember it being pretty public, as with all celebs who go the nanny banging route.

That said, I did like Ethan Hawke in the 90s. He was a definite 90s kind of guy for young girls to like.

Was just reading the before sunset thread because I knew Alfred had talked about the 3rd somewhere.

https://humanizingthevacuum.wordpress.com/2013/06/08/we-talk-nonsense-in-order-to-live-before-midnight/

He's still with the nanny, I think.

Also

DO NOT READ THE ABOVE UNLESS YOU HAVE SEEN ALL THREE MOVIES

xpost TRUE LOVE

Ethan Hawke needs to play Guy Fieri in a biopic.

It might be? Idk - I try not to pay attention/judge celebrities because of that kind of stuff. Nobody's perfect and you never know what's going on in someone's relationship. That said, he's clearly a dumbass for leaving Uma but we can all prob agree on that.

OMG stop now you're just trolling lol.

I was looking for images of his teeth and came across one of him with bleached hair. Perfect for Fieri.

I love Linklater but I don't really totally forgive him for putting Alex Jones in two of his movies. I am scared to watch Before Midnight, ugh. I love how Before Sunset ended so much.

Loved the first, though not unreservedly. Loved the second more. Third was a bit traumatic, but worthwhile. I don't know that I'd particularly like Hawke or his characters but I find him pretty fascinating on screen.

x-posts - I know the picture and it's terrifying. Also, just to be clear, I'm not an enormous EH fan at this point in my life because that would be weird. I do, however, think he's a hell of an actor and feel bad that people give him such a hard time.

Y - I think the third is worth watching but it's definitely my least favorite of the 3.

i also like ethan hawke. there is an earnestness to him that i appreciate

She's wearing a t-shirt under her dress when they enter the park. In the next scene the t-shirt is gone. That's how you know they had sex.

also i am not picking on you anagram honestly but i find this post unintentionally hilarious esp when i think of it out of context. i want to start saying things like this "first this happened, then this. That's how you know they had sex!"

elephant in the room

ethan hawkes novel

c/d?

The one that all takes place in the space of a pop song?

xp - nightmare

He really was James Franco version 1.0