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I, too, STILL can't find the memes.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 16 March 2018 14:59 (eight years ago)

Will Sommer is a hero, that's for sure.

maura, Friday, 16 March 2018 15:00 (eight years ago)

thats v good

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 16 March 2018 19:01 (eight years ago)

Nathan Robinson wrote a mocking the guy pretty hard so Jordan P naturally posted a freakout thread about it:

Very critical article by @NathanJRobinson of my work (including Maps of Meaning) in Current Affairs (https://t.co/AVpRVDs43A) is accompanied most hilariously by this ad... pic.twitter.com/4Ly0pdW25S

— Jordan B Peterson (@jordanbpeterson) March 16, 2018

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 16 March 2018 23:34 (eight years ago)

A mocking post, rather

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 16 March 2018 23:34 (eight years ago)

Nathan J Robinson presumably ready and waiting for the attack dogs

imago, Friday, 16 March 2018 23:36 (eight years ago)

maybe he becomes a cult figure too, the Adversary

imago, Friday, 16 March 2018 23:36 (eight years ago)

Paoli, Indiana is the middle of nowhere. It's a nice little farm town that has a town center out of Mayberry, mostly known for a place where you can ski (believe it or not). It's about 1/2 way between Bloomington and Louisville. I'd figure it has to be pretty tore up by heroin probably like much of this area of the country.

earlnash, Friday, 16 March 2018 23:50 (eight years ago)

Says one: "I STILL can't find the memes."

— Will Sommer (@willsommer) March 14, 2018

thereby instantly transforming himself into a meme

ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Friday, 16 March 2018 23:52 (eight years ago)

Paoli, Indiana is the middle of nowhere. It's a nice little farm town that has a town center out of Mayberry, mostly known for a place where you can ski (believe it or not). It's about 1/2 way between Bloomington and Louisville. I'd figure it has to be pretty tore up by heroin probably like much of this area of the country.

― earlnash

however, it's hard to confirm this because of the difficulty of finding anybody who would willingly travel to small-town indiana

ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Friday, 16 March 2018 23:54 (eight years ago)

I frikkin love Nathan Robinson

gbx, Saturday, 17 March 2018 00:47 (eight years ago)

Yeah, the tweet from JP is hilarious in context. He clearly doesn't know what the book is.

Frederik B, Saturday, 17 March 2018 00:49 (eight years ago)

my fav part of the article is the list of JP quotes he just starts riffing on

NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Saturday, 17 March 2018 01:28 (eight years ago)

“There is no being without imperfection.” No shit.

“The future is the place of all potential monsters.” The future is the place for all potential everything.

“People do not care whether or not they succeed; they care about whether or not they fail.” Which is apparently different.

“People aren’t after happiness, they’re after not hurting.” I’m actually after happiness, thanks.

“You cannot be protected from the things that frighten you and hurt you, but if you identify with the part of your being that is responsible for transformation, then you are always the equal, or more than the equal of the things that frighten you.” Unless you are frightened of leopards, and are subsequently eaten by leopards.

NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Saturday, 17 March 2018 01:31 (eight years ago)

i totally havent been paying attention to JP, i forgot he was the toronto guy who was acting all shitty over trans ppl wanting to be called by their actual pronouns, hahaahaaaaa of course the alt right loves him

NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Saturday, 17 March 2018 01:39 (eight years ago)

however, it's hard to confirm this because of the difficulty of finding anybody who would willingly travel to small-town indiana

― ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Friday, March 16, 2018 7:54 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i like indiana...

flappy bird, Saturday, 17 March 2018 05:18 (eight years ago)

But here I am already giving Peterson’s work a more coherent summary than it actually deserves. And after all, if “many human stories have common moral lessons” was his point, he would have been saying something so obvious that nobody would think to credit it as a novel insight.

This was my takeaway from trying to read Nassim Taleb's book - who is not quite as deeply connected to the alt-right as Peterson but definitely adjacent

louise ck (milo z), Saturday, 17 March 2018 05:40 (eight years ago)

i like indiana...

― flappy bird

sorry, i'm an ex-hoosier as of last year, for a while i'll have the same opinions on indiana as a recent ex-catholic has on catholicism

ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Saturday, 17 March 2018 14:04 (eight years ago)

exterminate! fake news! MAGA! exterminate! exterminate!

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 17 March 2018 18:18 (eight years ago)

That Robinson article, good stuff

Nhex, Saturday, 17 March 2018 22:00 (eight years ago)

There's always a fatal flaw when "white supremacist" and "intellectual leader" comes together.

It's like saying you're the lead particle physicist for the local sewage treatment plant. https://t.co/bjWyhI5C1O

— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) March 18, 2018

El Tomboto, Sunday, 18 March 2018 16:12 (eight years ago)

Lol truth. There are no clever racists

as the crows around me grows (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 18 March 2018 16:16 (eight years ago)

This is a decent article (warning: link takes you to The Intercept)

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 18 March 2018 18:03 (eight years ago)

A fun review of JP’s book, with an assist from Shuja Haider:

https://soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/episode-194-fck-12-feat-shuja-haider-and-elon-musk-31818

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Monday, 19 March 2018 22:34 (eight years ago)

Lol truth. There are no clever racists
do people really think this?

tsrobodo, Monday, 19 March 2018 22:43 (eight years ago)

yeah i find that so dumb. some really smart people are racist.

Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Monday, 19 March 2018 23:17 (eight years ago)

william d hamilton was a smart guy.

he wrote this

"it seems to me one of the most paradoxical of all the many impacts Judaism has had on the present world that it is the cousins (at least in a broad ethnic sense) of the very people who claim, on the authority of ancient writings, a right to deprive other Middle Easterners of their land and freedom, who generate from among their intellectuals the arguments that convince the rest of us that panhumanism is a worthy ideal and that the course that follows from it is Homo's best hope for the future. A long list of examples could easily be given: I could start, for example, with Karl Popper and his book The Open Society and Its Enemies and I could end with books of Richard Lewontin and Stephen Jay Gould. It seems to be particularly these men of Jewish origin (not, however, orthodox followers of the faith as a rule) who seek to persuade us that race differences are non-existent and everyone can mate with everyone in confidence of equally capable children."

Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Monday, 19 March 2018 23:17 (eight years ago)

some really smart people are racist.

This is true. But professional racists (people who have made their racism the core of their public identity—Richard Spencer, David Duke, et al.) are all dumb as shit.

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 19 March 2018 23:23 (eight years ago)

racism is inherently stupid therefore

not that smart/stupid is a binary proposition anyway, but sincerely holding racist beliefs is way up there on the stupidometer

as the crows around me grows (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 March 2018 23:39 (eight years ago)

racism religion is inherently stupid therefore

not that smart/stupid is a binary proposition anyway, but sincerely holding racist religious beliefs is way up there on the stupidometer

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 19 March 2018 23:51 (eight years ago)

Wait what’s happening now

valorous wokelord (silby), Monday, 19 March 2018 23:52 (eight years ago)

Intelligence has no bearing on how dumb a belief you can hold, b/c beliefs don’t always form that way.

Also being hella intelligent + hella racist = early 20th C support for eugenics and sterilization

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 00:02 (eight years ago)

http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/03/19/jordan-peterson-and-fascist-mysticism/

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 06:32 (eight years ago)

it's a good article, but I found Peterson's response fairly persuasive:

And you call me a fascist? You sanctimonious prick. If you were in my room at the moment, I'd slap you happily. https://t.co/sC3Lc9Hhlu

— Jordan B Peterson (@jordanbpeterson) March 20, 2018

while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 06:54 (eight years ago)

In Peterson's own words, “Toughen up, you weasel.”

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 09:13 (eight years ago)

snowflake triggered

Lobster Boy Is Not Owned pic.twitter.com/PGkMhy0Enp

— Dawn Foster (@DawnHFoster) March 20, 2018

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 09:49 (eight years ago)

it’s always the real men who feel the most pain

maura, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 11:54 (eight years ago)

if only

ogmor, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 11:58 (eight years ago)

"I will hit U" is what someone says who knows they've lost the debate.

zchyrs, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 13:38 (eight years ago)

I don't know what's more incredible: this guy's overall level of gooniness, or that he has the following that he does.

zchyrs, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 13:39 (eight years ago)

He's not going away, either. The CBC just brought him on last night to weigh in (poorly) on the Ontario provincial election, for some goddamn reason.

Simon H., Tuesday, 20 March 2018 13:41 (eight years ago)

Meantime

lmao Paul Nehlen's campaign is now too anti-Semitic for white supremacists Jared Taylor and American Renaissance pic.twitter.com/bGra5uznoQ

— Lachlan Markay (@lachlan) March 20, 2018

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 13:43 (eight years ago)

Jared Taylor and the American Renaissance: worst bar band ever

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 13:47 (eight years ago)

Sounds like a tribute band that is doomed to failure tbh.

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 13:49 (eight years ago)

their decision to focus exclusively on material from the mccarty-relf era is what really doomed them

ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 14:09 (eight years ago)

getting a lot of enjoyment out of perpetually-weeping, kermit-voiced scarecrow jordan peterson threatening physical violence on social media

what a time to be alive

in conclusion, it is good to peel the sheeps (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 14:12 (eight years ago)

a shame pankaj mishra isn't on twitter to tweet back PUT YOUR HANDS ON THE CAR AND PREPARE TO DIE

ogmor, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 14:19 (eight years ago)

Great article by Mishra. The historical reflections are especially good.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 14:20 (eight years ago)

lol Grauniad and all, but this from the weekend by Mishra covers a lot of similar ground in entertaining fashion
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/mar/17/the-crisis-in-modern-masculinity

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 14:44 (eight years ago)

its not easy, being green
having to spend each day the colour of the leaves
and ppl tend to pass you over
cos you're not standing out like flashy sparkles in the water
or stars in the sky

(robot gives Mum a hot dirty slap) (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 14:49 (eight years ago)


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