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I heard your love was like it

“Creatives” is the tech synonym for “artists” that no one asked for

― flappy bird, Saturday, March 10, 2018 6:09 PM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I always thought this was more of a way to make non-artist media professionals feel like artists by lumping them in with artists.

If you’re hearing “bad faith” a lot you might reflect on why.

lol

can't find the excelsior thread

“Creatives” is the tech synonym for “artists” that no one asked for

― flappy bird, Saturday, March 10, 2018 6:09 PM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I always thought this was more of a way to make non-artist media professionals feel like artists by lumping them in with artists.

― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, March 13, 2018 1:19 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes this too

Disingenuous doesn't mean the same as "in bad faith" and certainly not in the example I gave

― as the crows around me grows (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, March 13, 2018 1:04 PM (thirty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sure it does, "provoking a reaction for the fun of it" is being disingenuous, or insincere.

If you’re hearing “bad faith” a lot you might reflect on why.

― Mordy, Tuesday, March 13, 2018 1:23 PM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well, I do read ILX a lot

"How do you feel about that?"

Feelings got us into this mess

i dont think you actually believe that tbh

― the clodding of the american mind (darraghmac), Tuesday, March 13, 2018 11:36 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's half the problem, but it's also half the solution

https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/435111/how-do-you-say-come-on-man-to-a-woman

I've heard people saying phrases like down below.

"That's not cool, man"
"Dude, look at this"
"Hey, calm down, bro"

But these words are supposed to be said to a male person. (I could be wrong since I'm not an native English speaker) So what word do you use instead to say those phrases to a female person?

some sad and lol answers to this. "We expect and prefer to be treated like ladies. "Dude, guy, man, bro" -- when spoken to a lady, are considered low-class here." or the person who offers this translation guide:

“That’s not cool, man” → “That’s not cool sis.”
“Dude, look at this!” → “Girl, look at this!”
“Hey, calm down, bro” → “Sister. Calm down.”

dude is very close to becoming unisex ime. man was originally general neutral too!

Before “man” meant a male, the word “wer” or “wǣpmann” was commonly used to refer to “male human”. This word almost completely died out around the 1300s, but survives somewhat in words like “werewolf”, which literally means “man wolf”.

Women at the time were referred to as “wif” or “wīfmann“, meaning “female human”. The latter “wifmann”, eventually evolved into the word “woman”, but retained its original meaning. The word “wif” itself eventually evolved into “wife”, with its meaning obviously being changed slightly.

“Creatives” is the tech synonym for “artists” that no one asked for

it's because if you are designing logos for a company you are doing something different than when you go home and paint or play with samplers or whatever on your own free time.

also it makes sense to say "We have a creative department". it sounds like they are making various things for various purposes. it also sounds productive. "art" conjures up the singular idea "work of art", which is a self-fulfilling object. "We have an art department" sounds like you have people that make individual works of art.

xpost Woah! That's wild, can't believe I never ran into that before.

it's because if you are designing logos for a company you are doing something different than when you go home and paint or play with samplers or whatever on your own free time.

that is a graphic designer. i understand the intent of the phrase, it still makes my skin crawl because it is unnecessary, and even worse when it's used to refer to actual artists.

Personally I don't mind if writers, copyeditors, graphic designers, and web designers get called "creatives" or "creative professionals." It's a useful distinction from the "business side" like ad salespeople or whatever. Calling them "artists" is usually overkill.

In my youth I was a "production artist" - basically newspaper / newsletter / magazine layout - for something like $8 an hour. While there was certainly creative work involved, calling it art would have been rather grand.

If what you object to is the nouning of an adjective, you can use "creative professionals," but I think that won't stay wieldy for long.

Verbing and nouning and such is a venerable tradition in English, as even a cursory glance at a dictionary will tell you.

https://thelawdictionary.org/good-faith/
https://thelawdictionary.org/bad-faith/

you know ive had my share

I know what it means to be a loan...

xpost yeah lol i dislike the words "artist" and find it bougie and self important. art isnt something common people should be alienated from, which tends to be the case.

Yes, let's use 'creatives' instead.

yeah, and maths and science and sports and woodwork

xp

it's important not to alienate people from things that are good for them, i think we should call doctors "ouch mechanics"

teachers could be "school cops"

well, that'd make it easier to justify arming them for sure

that's what i was thinking

I am never saying 'fake news' ever again, even in jest.

tbh i don't mind being called an artist for rewriting your fuck-awful prose, in fact i demand it

the notion of common, normal or regular people is not to be accepted

7 billion legernds

mrs yanis varoufakis, ogmor is calling u out itt

any reference to or spin on 'taking my talents to miami'

it's important not to alienate people from things that are good for them

your zings missed my point. it's not about alienating people from consuming art but creating it. similar to the alienation of workers from the fruits of their labor. "you can't make art you are a construction worker, leave it to the gifted artists". art for all. im a big fan of Breton.

"fake news" is still useful for trolling trolls when you get roped into a dumb argument on someone's facebook wall

"fake news" is still useful for trolling trolls when you get roped into a dumb argument on someone's facebook wall

― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:51 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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"Hack" for stuff that is not tech-related. Russia "hacked" the election, used by dumb boomers who don't know the difference between literally altering votes and posting some targeted ads on facebook.

definitely. "life hack" is a bad one

life hack is bad, intentionally posting in a way that subverts algorithmic boosting of popular content is a sort of hack

that's not what they did either

but in any case, that's at most hacking a social media algorithm, it's not hacking an election

if someone makes a viral quiz that is not in fact a quiz in substance, and you get tons of people quote-unquote figuring out their personality type when you are actually just grabbing a list of friends, that is a hack. not a technically proficient hack, but social engineering is hacking by any grey hat definition and that is social engineering

true, that has nothing directly related to election hacking

that involves irony poisoning

we used to live in a golden age when "hacking" meant driving a taxi on nights and weekends to make a bit of extra cash so you could afford a few niceties like an electric shoeshine machine or a tin of the top-shelf brilliantine

that's also not an accurate description of what cambridge analytica did fwiw, although I'm being a little pedantic. All third party apps at the time grabbed your friends' info, it was part of facebook's stated policy that they could do so. What cambridge did was just pretend to be research for academic purposes when it was actually for its own political-related purposes. But also, cambridge =/= russia.

irony poisoning is also a dumb phrase

Hey, let's be sure that we're really precise in our language in opposing a bunch of inveterate pathological liars

I wasn’t a huge fan of “irony poisoning” myself but people who are familiar with online trolls tend to catch on to it more quickly on discussion than just saying “well, your young friend voted for Trump due to deep cynicism”

i had never heard irony poisoning before reading these posts and now i get it
i think it's a useful phrase to describe something that would take more words otherwise

comes from consuming too many irony supplements

I guess it sounds like a real thing but I'm also very suspicious of anyone who wholesale criticizes irony. That was big after 9/11.