Words, usages, and phrases that annoy the shit out of you...

thank god the wife never says hubby

Wow, I never realized how many people use good faith and bad faith until this board. But yeah those are both super annoying.

I don't think I've used either until the past year but they're both better than "concern trolling" which irritates me to no end

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I don't think I've used either until the past year but they're both better than "concern trolling" which irritates me to no end

"concern trolling" only irritates me when it's used outside its actual meaning (which is all the time)

goddam that Sartre dude and his jargon

I'm old and think half the problem is people who enjoy provoking reactions but have no actual stance or investment in anything they're saying

guilty

i think most people who enjoy provoking reactions have no investment, hence the enjoyment

in fact you could say that such people acted in bad faith

hubby

― Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Monday, March 12, 2018 2:55 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm prescient (apologies for daily mail link)

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article.../Radio-4-listeners-reveal-phrases-STAND.html

i think most people who enjoy provoking reactions have no investment, hence the enjoyment

in fact you could say that such people acted in bad faith

― Finnegans woke (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, March 13, 2018 11:50 AM (forty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

in another word, disingenuous

I'm old and think half the problem is people who enjoy provoking reactions but have no actual stance or investment in anything they're saying

― mh, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 15:40 (fifty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i dont think you actually believe that tbh

"There's already a word for it" makes it seem like you think the very common and old phrase "bad faith" is some sort of faddish neologism?

it's certainly spiked in use recently

Ah so if more people had started saying the word disingenuous recently would you be complaining and telling them to use the perfectly good synonym "bad faith" the

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https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=%22bad%20faith%22

no because the word disingenuous doesn't annoy the shit out of me

As used on CNN 24 hours a day now, "breaking news."

Disingenuous doesn't mean the same as "in bad faith" and certainly not in the example I gave

what's the word on bad medicine

I heard your love was like it

“Creatives” is the tech synonym for “artists” that no one asked for

― flappy bird, Saturday, March 10, 2018 6:09 PM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I always thought this was more of a way to make non-artist media professionals feel like artists by lumping them in with artists.

If you’re hearing “bad faith” a lot you might reflect on why.

lol

can't find the excelsior thread

“Creatives” is the tech synonym for “artists” that no one asked for

― flappy bird, Saturday, March 10, 2018 6:09 PM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I always thought this was more of a way to make non-artist media professionals feel like artists by lumping them in with artists.

― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, March 13, 2018 1:19 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes this too

Disingenuous doesn't mean the same as "in bad faith" and certainly not in the example I gave

― as the crows around me grows (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, March 13, 2018 1:04 PM (thirty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sure it does, "provoking a reaction for the fun of it" is being disingenuous, or insincere.

If you’re hearing “bad faith” a lot you might reflect on why.

― Mordy, Tuesday, March 13, 2018 1:23 PM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well, I do read ILX a lot

"How do you feel about that?"

Feelings got us into this mess

i dont think you actually believe that tbh

― the clodding of the american mind (darraghmac), Tuesday, March 13, 2018 11:36 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's half the problem, but it's also half the solution

https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/435111/how-do-you-say-come-on-man-to-a-woman

I've heard people saying phrases like down below.

"That's not cool, man"
"Dude, look at this"
"Hey, calm down, bro"

But these words are supposed to be said to a male person. (I could be wrong since I'm not an native English speaker) So what word do you use instead to say those phrases to a female person?

some sad and lol answers to this. "We expect and prefer to be treated like ladies. "Dude, guy, man, bro" -- when spoken to a lady, are considered low-class here." or the person who offers this translation guide:

“That’s not cool, man” → “That’s not cool sis.”
“Dude, look at this!” → “Girl, look at this!”
“Hey, calm down, bro” → “Sister. Calm down.”

dude is very close to becoming unisex ime. man was originally general neutral too!

Before “man” meant a male, the word “wer” or “wǣpmann” was commonly used to refer to “male human”. This word almost completely died out around the 1300s, but survives somewhat in words like “werewolf”, which literally means “man wolf”.

Women at the time were referred to as “wif” or “wīfmann“, meaning “female human”. The latter “wifmann”, eventually evolved into the word “woman”, but retained its original meaning. The word “wif” itself eventually evolved into “wife”, with its meaning obviously being changed slightly.

“Creatives” is the tech synonym for “artists” that no one asked for

it's because if you are designing logos for a company you are doing something different than when you go home and paint or play with samplers or whatever on your own free time.

also it makes sense to say "We have a creative department". it sounds like they are making various things for various purposes. it also sounds productive. "art" conjures up the singular idea "work of art", which is a self-fulfilling object. "We have an art department" sounds like you have people that make individual works of art.

xpost Woah! That's wild, can't believe I never ran into that before.

it's because if you are designing logos for a company you are doing something different than when you go home and paint or play with samplers or whatever on your own free time.

that is a graphic designer. i understand the intent of the phrase, it still makes my skin crawl because it is unnecessary, and even worse when it's used to refer to actual artists.

Personally I don't mind if writers, copyeditors, graphic designers, and web designers get called "creatives" or "creative professionals." It's a useful distinction from the "business side" like ad salespeople or whatever. Calling them "artists" is usually overkill.

In my youth I was a "production artist" - basically newspaper / newsletter / magazine layout - for something like $8 an hour. While there was certainly creative work involved, calling it art would have been rather grand.

If what you object to is the nouning of an adjective, you can use "creative professionals," but I think that won't stay wieldy for long.

Verbing and nouning and such is a venerable tradition in English, as even a cursory glance at a dictionary will tell you.

https://thelawdictionary.org/good-faith/
https://thelawdictionary.org/bad-faith/

you know ive had my share

I know what it means to be a loan...

xpost yeah lol i dislike the words "artist" and find it bougie and self important. art isnt something common people should be alienated from, which tends to be the case.

Yes, let's use 'creatives' instead.

yeah, and maths and science and sports and woodwork

xp

it's important not to alienate people from things that are good for them, i think we should call doctors "ouch mechanics"

teachers could be "school cops"

well, that'd make it easier to justify arming them for sure

that's what i was thinking

I am never saying 'fake news' ever again, even in jest.

tbh i don't mind being called an artist for rewriting your fuck-awful prose, in fact i demand it