maybe we should introduce school lessons on how to shut the fuck up and just be at peace
― Finnegans woke (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 March 2018 09:17 (eight years ago)
These sessions will focus on; How to conduct a job search How to market yourself CV writing Interview skills Competency based interviews Managing online profile
what if i don't want to market myself?
― Finnegans woke (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 March 2018 09:24 (eight years ago)
card in a phone box or gtfo imo
― I’m 16 and a member of UKIP’s youth wing, young independence (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 12 March 2018 09:55 (eight years ago)
just sat in a maths class having long complicated thoughts about teenagers, education, the cultivation of discipline, the possible intrinsic dickery of a sizeable proportion of human beings, my own relationship to all of this and to life and to what the point of anything is
primary conclusions were it's time to get out and i need to have a long deep meditate to work out where my head's aligned to the rest of humanity. secondary conclusions were a version of shrug emoji.
teenagers and classrooms will do this to you.
― Finnegans woke (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 11:21 (eight years ago)
it knots together i guess, there's a self-centred willful stupidity and dickishness to others but then they're bored and lost and empty and why the hell is the universe making them sit there bored hour after hour anyway, perhaps nobody is expected to be a winner, perhaps they're the meat in a grinder that keeps turning to no purpose except the need to keep cranking its own handle
― Finnegans woke (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 11:46 (eight years ago)
also tho teenagers are disgusting savages let it not be forgotten
― the clodding of the american mind (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 11:48 (eight years ago)
i am certainly not disavowing that possibility but to what extent are they innate savages and to what extent do they have savagery thrust upon them and is the savagery taught by the people who don't care about them or by the people who actually somehow think they're trying to make them better and then of course they're not all abject savages, there is a definite scale to this
― Finnegans woke (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 11:50 (eight years ago)
i'm sticking to my line that teenage savagery greatly exacerbated by concentrating them all together in institutions esp when their parents engage in vicarious 60s cosplay
― ogmor, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 11:55 (eight years ago)
actually the thought i keep returning to is that maybe in fact this is the smooth trundling of the best of all possible worlds and the only issue is me processing it thru a sick, jaded brain
― Finnegans woke (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 11:58 (eight years ago)
xp Is this about the Thurman-Fiennes Avengers movie again?
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 12:02 (eight years ago)
certainly thats the part i latched onto
unless he meant corbynism idk
― the clodding of the american mind (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 12:41 (eight years ago)
i was thinking maybe it was uniforms and other nostalgic mechanisms of control
― Finnegans woke (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 12:43 (eight years ago)
right, school uniforms' performative anachronism is a good example of how childhood/youth is constructed by adults to fulfil their weird retrogressive fantasies
― ogmor, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 13:01 (eight years ago)
or alternatively a method by which kids are protected from the tyranny of consumer-culture oneupmanship
― I’m 16 and a member of UKIP’s youth wing, young independence (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 13:06 (eight years ago)
yeah cos they don't compare their phones or their shoes
― imago, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 13:12 (eight years ago)
school uniform is no protection. it's bullshit
dress codes are entirely ample
― imago, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 13:13 (eight years ago)
to be clear I'm not against school uniforms in general
― ogmor, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 13:32 (eight years ago)
what would you say the case for their continuation is
― imago, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 13:38 (eight years ago)
remembering the anxiety of non uniform day at school
― ogmor, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 13:39 (eight years ago)
cheap functional uniforms are not a bad idea, just no fucking ties or hats or brass buttons or whatever
― ogmor, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 13:40 (eight years ago)
maybe. certainly no ties feels important
to add to nv's point btw, last week i was teaching four kids who'd been expelled from their school aged 13/14 for a drugs offence. they were happy to do the work as long as i let them piss around. a teacher of 30 years' experience also tutored them and apparently things deteriorated so quickly that they discontinued the entire arrangement over the weekend. one of them filmed footage of this man yelling at a kid, who was yelling back - finger pointing, threats etc. he'd made the cardinal error of calling the big bully kid a twat to his face, and underestimating the power of the quiet, mature-seeming machiavelli operator beside him
what lesson do we learn from this? idk but unless teenagers see the point in the work they're set then i can see them becoming, culturally at least, increasingly intransigent, and maybe that's a good thing. the education system needs a total overhaul and this can only accelerate it
the one thing these kids were doing that i hated was bullying the girl in the group, and i told them as much
― imago, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 13:43 (eight years ago)
they were rich posho kids, yes, but i can see the intransigence becoming universal
― imago, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 13:44 (eight years ago)
yeah wherever the personal/social interplay lies i'm definitely not saying that the kids are just inherently fallen. the way we teach and what we teach is so much bullshit and its purpose is only to create malleable drones.
― Finnegans woke (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 14:04 (eight years ago)
well yes. it needs to change and nobody's seriously trying to change it
― imago, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 14:11 (eight years ago)
because society needs malleable drones!
― Finnegans woke (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 14:24 (eight years ago)
itt a defence of the rights of posh kids to be cunts
― the clodding of the american mind (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 14:35 (eight years ago)
lol yeah sure
i don't think anybody has "the right" to be a cunt, if rights are meaningful in non-legal contexts
on the other hand i think if you mistreat animals they tend to not be better behaved for it.
the questions are really about the most effective methods of either not creating terrible behaviour or of training people not to exhibit it if you think it's an original component of human nature.
― Finnegans woke (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 15:13 (eight years ago)
whether you could come up with answers to that without picking a side in the nurture/nature argument is an issue too i think
― Finnegans woke (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 15:14 (eight years ago)
hmm fair
also an option to creating a system that works well for most and executes the other tbh
― the clodding of the american mind (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 15:22 (eight years ago)
my head's a gajillion miles away from here. i don't know what i want to do, yet.
― as the crows around me grows (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 March 2018 11:33 (eight years ago)
struggle bowl
― mookieproof, Monday, 19 March 2018 18:59 (eight years ago)
this morning filled with a great blue sadness reflecting the sky, like the dignified calm sadness of the universe, sadness at the immensity of the great work of time that's like a calm joy. so different to depression, i feel as functional as i wanna be, like i could fall up off the face of the earth and disappear into the blue above and that would be just great.
slightly wrecked by reaching the office and having to deal with my colleague's hyperactive chatter (to nobody) but never mind, not for much longer all being well. looking out the window and the blue's disappeared too.
still love Fridays.
― Cambridge Metallica (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 March 2018 08:22 (eight years ago)
already slightly regretting my anti-drinking decision to leave tobacco and skins at home tho.
― Cambridge Metallica (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 March 2018 08:23 (eight years ago)
Every night this week when I dream my past wives are flashing before my eyes
― bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 March 2018 14:12 (eight years ago)
It's good they flash by instead of dragging by, lingering limply tbh.
I've a future past wife flashing before my eyes rn, and I very much wish it was a dream, but it's not. (hence this lame response 2U feeling like I can somehow relate...)
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 30 March 2018 18:11 (eight years ago)
It's the thought that counts bud
It just occurs to me that everybody in The Big Bang Theory bar Sheldon is a complete cunt
― bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 March 2018 09:43 (eight years ago)
Took me a moment to stop wondering where on earth the 'the Big Bang Theory bar' is
― kinder, Saturday, 31 March 2018 10:16 (eight years ago)
― bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Friday, March 30, 2018 3:12 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah this happens, fuck love
― map, Saturday, 31 March 2018 10:20 (eight years ago)
dude I've been such a cunt, I deserve to die alone
― bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 March 2018 10:24 (eight years ago)
OK I could tone down the swears, I blame my drinking buddies
― bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 31 March 2018 10:26 (eight years ago)
assholes
― map, Saturday, 31 March 2018 10:29 (eight years ago)
imagine Arab Strap jamming with the Bad Seeds after a wild night in some dive bar they’ll never find again. Think of a tighter Birthday Party reeling elegantly from chorus to verse yet smashing the furniture up in the process. Iggy struts and Jacques Brel drains the optics. Pure White Speed will keep you awake. And knock you out.
i've imagined it. fuck off.
― you're my luger not my rifle (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 April 2018 16:56 (eight years ago)
Is that a London band by any chance?
― Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 April 2018 16:59 (eight years ago)
I have this theory that only bands from London ever try to look and sound like Nick Cave, they'd get laughed off the stage anywhere else.
― Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 April 2018 17:00 (eight years ago)
lol yes they are
― you're my luger not my rifle (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 April 2018 17:05 (eight years ago)
It goes deeper. It cuts, it bleeds, it hurts, it soothes. It gives a sudden rush then introspection follows, it tells you to fuck off then wants you in its arms. It has poison on its lips but it makes the pain go away. Try it once. Then take it again.
what the actual fuck
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 12 April 2018 17:11 (eight years ago)
oh man i switched off after the first paragraph.
i suppose it's good that there are things for middle-aged goths to do.
― you're my luger not my rifle (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 April 2018 17:12 (eight years ago)
The Cesarians are not a pop band. They could never have been manufactured, manipulated or otherwise pre-masticated for public consumption.
NEVER!
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 12 April 2018 17:13 (eight years ago)
The Cesarians are a magnificent triumph of the electric eclectic, a bunch of renegades who live on the river, tapping the source of London’s eternal energy.
Stick a fork in me NV I'm done.
;_;
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 12 April 2018 17:14 (eight years ago)